Denisemomof4 Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 you had a son who had pneumnonia THREE times in NINE months LAST YEAR? Or what if you have a husband that gets asthma every winter after a cold, and is forced to be on inhalers? I'm so torn and can't decide if it's more dangerous to vaccinate or more dangerous NOT to vaccinate. I stocked up on Vit. D, probiotics, liquid silver (ds says we're so rich we're going to drink silver!) multis, vit C, etc. I need to be more forceful about cod liver oil and Vit E. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 I don't have any words of advice but I'm in the same boat. I go back and forth daily on what is the right thing to do. If I don't have family get the vaccine and something happens I will feel responsible and if I do have family get the vaccine and something happens I will feel responsible. In the end I'm just going to go with my gut (it usually works out well) and hope for the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 If it were me, I'd vaccinate. But I'll probably get boxed about the ears for saying so :D Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommaduck Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 If it were me, I'd vaccinate. But I'll probably get boxed about the ears for saying so :D Bill On the flip side of the coin: If it were me, I'd NOT vaccinate. But I'll probably get boxed about the ears for saying so :D ;) But that is me. YOU have to weigh out the pros and cons for your family. Is your family's health issues such that they risk reacting to the vaccine or actually getting sick from the vaccine? Are you willing to risk the chance of getting sick naturally vs intentionally introducing the virus into their system, whether that virus is dead or alive? Are there other precautions you are taking to reduce your risk of catching the virus? Are your children in a public atmosphere on a regular basis or are they at home more? Would you vaccinate for any other flu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornblower Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 have you done the pnuemovax? I think in your circumstances I'd do that first & then the h1n1. effectmeasure had a discussion of pneumovax.... here: http://scienceblogs.com/effectmeasure/2009/06/pneumococcal_vaccine.php and here: http://scienceblogs.com/effectmeasure/2009/09/swine_flu_will_modern_medicine.php#more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spy Car Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 On the flip side of the coin: If it were me, I'd NOT vaccinate. But I'll probably get boxed about the ears for saying so :D ;) :lol::lol::lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn in OH Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 (edited) You know, it's a really tough call. The vaccine is so new and no one knows the long term effects. That's what concerns me most. I don't like the things I've read about this vaccine, but I've also become a non-vaxer. Although I do admit to looking at each vaccine individually closely and carefully to make sure I'm making the right decision. I'm pregnant and I have a 2 year old. Do I want to end up with this flu? Absolutely not. But does anyone know what it's going to do to my son or my unborn baby? No. Considering that I rarely get the regular flu, and recover fairly quickly from that, I'm thinking that for my family, we will just be extra careful with handwashing, getting plenty of rest, eating a healthy diet, and taking our vitamins. I'll probably also limit or visits to high traffic places. You have to weigh the pros and cons and think about what's best for your family. That's often not an easy thing. Edited October 3, 2009 by Dawn in OH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denisemomof4 Posted October 3, 2009 Author Share Posted October 3, 2009 have you done the pnuemovax? I think in your circumstances I'd do that first & then the h1n1. effectmeasure had a discussion of pneumovax.... here: http://scienceblogs.com/effectmeasure/2009/06/pneumococcal_vaccine.php and here: http://scienceblogs.com/effectmeasure/2009/09/swine_flu_will_modern_medicine.php#more when they were trying to figure out WHY ds had pneumonia 3 times in such a short period, the last test was the pneumovax vaccine, and then they tested his titers. (sp?) We went to a specialist in an excellent hospital. His opinion? Freak occurrence. Hopefully it won't happen again. Dh gets the pneumovax. I need to go read your links. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denisemomof4 Posted October 3, 2009 Author Share Posted October 3, 2009 BTW, my sons are in PS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenCat Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 I had the seasonal flu shot a few days ago. My dr. said that since I have asthma, I'm at high risk for complications should I contract H1N1 so I will get it when it becomes available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornblower Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 I'd like to refer you to this link where they outline the various vaccines on the market, their testing etc: http://justthevax.blogspot.com/2009/09/20092010-h1n1-vaccines-for-us.html Honestly, I'm not persuaded by the supposition that the novel H1N1 vaccine is somehow more dangerous &/or less tested than the seasonal flu vax. It's made the same way, all that's different is the genetic code of the virus which the used to make the actual vaccine. The other procedures are exactly the same as in the seasonal vaccine as far as I can tell. So anyone who would normally consider the seasonal vax should consider this one as well IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleIzumi Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Dd1 has had her own nebulizer from 2 years old. And she's still not getting the vax. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleIzumi Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 I'd like to refer you to this link where they outline the various vaccines on the market, their testing etc: http://justthevax.blogspot.com/2009/09/20092010-h1n1-vaccines-for-us.html Honestly, I'm not persuaded by the supposition that the novel H1N1 vaccine is somehow more dangerous &/or less tested than the seasonal flu vax. It's made the same way, all that's different is the genetic code of the virus which the used to make the actual vaccine. The other procedures are exactly the same as in the seasonal vaccine as far as I can tell. So anyone who would normally consider the seasonal vax should consider this one as well IMO. Actually, the H1N1 (the dosage for 6mo+) has a much higher level of thimerosal than the seasonal flu vax, and the thimerosal legal limits were "suspended" so it could be distributed and the limits will be reinstated after they're done vaccinating. So no, it does not follow that the two vaccines are the same apart from genetic coding. "Each 0.5mL dose contains 25mcg mercury." The legal limit in states such as WA and CA is "no more than 1.0microgram per 0.5mililiter." "In 1994, the EPA revised its Reference Dose (RfD) for methylmercury exposure, lowering its guideline for safe exposure from 0.3 to 0.1 microgram per kilogram body weight per day." www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/.../UCM182404.pdf www.doh.wa.gov/cfh/Immunize/documents/suspensionfaq.pdf http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/vaccines/QuestionsaboutVaccines/ucm070430.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonibee Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 There is also the decision to make whether to accept the live vaccine or the inactive vaccine. The hospital I transcribe is recommending the live vaccine for healthy people age 2-49 only. It's such a personal decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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