Laurie4b Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 (edited) As I read through the news accounts of Michael Jackson's death, I find it odd that the accounts of the 911 call have the caller implying that the doctor has been doing CPR for a while. My recollection from CPR training (I'm not a medical person) is the protocol for adult victims is to call 911 immediately and then do CPR (with kids, you try a minute first before calling 911 because they are less likely to have an underlying heart condition). There were clearly at least two people present in the house, though it sounds like the doctor was alone with MJ "attempting to resuscitate" for some period of time. So why was the 911 call delayed? The other thing I wonder about is that the doctor was apparently just doing CPR. I wondered why there was no defibrillator mentioned. Perhaps it was not indicated, but with the possibility of a drug-induced cardiac arrest, wouldn't that have been likely to have been indicated? Does anyone know? (I'm assuming that since MJ was worried enough about his heart to have a cardiologist with him, that he would have forked up a couple thous. bucks for a defribillator. Edited June 27, 2009 by Laurie4b1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 As I read through the news accounts of Michael Jackson's death, I find it odd that the accounts of the 911 call have the caller implying that the doctor has been doing CPR for a while. My recollection from CPR training (I'm not a medical person) is the protocol for adult victims is to call 911 immediately and then do CPR (with kids, you try a minute first before calling 911 because they are less likely to have an underlying heart condition). There were clearly at least two people present in the house, though it sounds like the doctor was alone with MJ "attempting to resuscitate" for some period of time. So why was the 911 call delayed? The other thing I wonder about is that the doctor was apparently just doing CPR. I wondered why there was no defibrillator mentioned. Perhaps it was not indicated, but with the possibility of a drug-induced cardiac arrest, wouldn't that have been likely to have been indicated? Does anyone know? Yes, it's very strange. The fact that they couldn't find him afterward is also bizarre. Has he been found yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bettyandbob Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 Authorities suspect prescription drugs were involved. The doctor disappeared before he could be questioned, but has since been located. Micheal Jackson had some health problems and the addition of overprescribing drugs may have resulted in his cardiac arrest. The autopsy toxicology results won't be available for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKS Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 I thought it was odd that the doctor was apparently doing CPR on the bed which is a big no-no (it's in the 911 call). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie4b Posted June 27, 2009 Author Share Posted June 27, 2009 I thought it was odd that the doctor was apparently doing CPR on the bed which is a big no-no (it's in the 911 call). I didn't listen to the 911 call, just read about it, but yes, on the bed would be next to useless, right? So doctor was totally incompetent...or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jentancalann Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 well, its michael jackson. i can imagine that the reason they didn't call first, then do cpr was to keep the whole scenario out of the tabloids. maybe they didn't think it was quite as serious as it was. who knows. doesn't matter much now though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie4b Posted June 27, 2009 Author Share Posted June 27, 2009 well, its michael jackson. i can imagine that the reason they didn't call first, then do cpr was to keep the whole scenario out of the tabloids. maybe they didn't think it was quite as serious as it was. who knows. doesn't matter much now though. Minutes matter in preventing cardiac death. It would sure matter to me if I had a family member being attended by a physician and that physician delayed in calling 911. If he had needed CPR, he would have been hospitalized even if he had been revived, so it would have been in the tabloids that he went to the hospital. Something isn't right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillary in KS Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 The caller also said that the doctor was the only one with him when he collapsed, so it's possible that he was doing CPR while yelling or trying to get the attention of someone outside the room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnM Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 They towed the doctor's car away but can't find the doctor.....very suspicious. Any doctor who is performing CPR and calling 911 should stay WITH the patient. Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1cat2ferrets Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 disturbing. Read that the Dr. has now hired a law firm! I feel that something's up here. My DH and I feel that this so-called DR. gave Michael too much demerol or something and that's what stopped his heart. I still feel so sad about this, especially if Michael could have been saved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tammy Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 who the person was that actually called 911....since he said the Dr. was with him doing CPR....who was the caller? The caller didn't sound very disturbed by the whole thing..... The doctor is in a bunch of trouble.....if you ask me. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingersmom Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 According to the NY Times the doctor is not board certified as a cardiologist and he also practices another type of medicine that he is not board certified for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiseOwlKnits Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 I think he messed up big and was trying to keep it under wraps. Then when they called 911, he freaked and ran because he knows that it's going to cost him his license and quite possibly land him in jail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate CA Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 Yes, the doctor has been found. He has been in constant contact with the police since the death. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,529288,00.html It would seem that MJ's family has not had contact, but it is hard to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie4b Posted July 3, 2009 Author Share Posted July 3, 2009 I just read that the doctor's own lawyers say that it could have been up to a half hour before 911 was called. If that's true, can't imagine how he'll keep his medical license, let alone avoid prosecution. He apparently was bankrupt or close to it, so family won't be able to secure much with a wrongful death civil action. As I recall from my CPR class, the reason that you are supposed to call 911 first when an adult needs CPR is that there is likely to be something systemic going on. You can wait a minute after performing CPR on a child because it's more likely to be something situational (swallowed and object and is choking). CPR may actually fix the problem in the case of a child, but not if there is heart failure, etc. So this doctor, finding a weak pulse and no respiration tries himself to revive MJ for possibly a half hour before calling 911. That is just unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtroad Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Doctor said he didn' t know the exact street address & yelled for help... may have even had to find help. As for hiring a law firm, I would immediately. Jackson (by all the accounts hitting the news) was doing many cocktails of meds.... the doctor will be the first person at which they are going to look. I might not disappear, but I would hire an attorney pronto! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryCatherine Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 I also imagine that this doc made some mistakes. I've been an RN for 12 years - always in a hospital setting - worked hundreds of codes. I can probably count on one hand the number of doctors who activly participate in codes. It's the nurses and respiratory therapists who are hands-on. The doctors stand around and consult with each other and toss out ideas. If this doctor works in an office, it would be almost certain that his code experience would be minimal. It's obvious he panicked - due to fear or inexperience or both. The toxology report will be interesting. Oh - I've never worked in an ER. Maybe there doctors are more involved. I've only worked in ICUs and on floors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janet in WA Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 I wonder how they chose this particular doctor for MJ? He has had a questionable career at best. Why, of all the doctors in the world, was this one chosen to attend MJ so closely? I wonder if it's related to this Dr.'s willingness to do unethical things for his patient? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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