Check out the For Sale forum here. I saw MCt Island for sale for $90.00! :)

Yeah, I'm Just like you! Yes, my son does that to me too :) Why wait? He's teaching me to go with the flow but it's sometimes very hard for me. Good Luck :)

Atleast I have company :lol:

Thank you Gina (momto2blessings), joyfulhomeschooler, kristinannie. I was looking at Brave Arrow on the Homeschool Buyers club. It's 5 for something but I think I would like just one for $5.00 to try it out. I really like the idea of reading the book we are using for all the studied dictation, copywork, narration, etc. instead of having an excerp of a book like you do in WWE. I like "easy to teach and written to the student" :D ok so now I need to check our Spelling Power, Interediate Language Lessons by Emma Serl, Spelling Wisdom, Epi Kardia. :001_unsure: Oh, why did I have such a complicated question to ask :ohmy:

Thanks. This is where I was thinking of doing, using WWE 2 as hand holding for the a year, or half a year, and then I will be able to see what I need tweaking on my own. I like the idea of my ds picking a sentences from what he is reading for studied dictation. I might try that next. So far, I don't really see retention of spelled words. Even ds says he forgets how to spell the word after we do the studied dictation BUT, I have NOT done it alot to be sure. I might just be freaking out too soon because I feel we are behind in some things (mainly math and LA and Spelling). Too cute. I did buy "Stories Starter" but have not used it yet. I will look at this during my planning and see how I will use it. I will look into Spelling Wisdom but I think in the Fall I want to use AAS AND some studied dictation and see how that goes. I have been looking to see if someone is selling Spelling Wisdom in the For Sale. Believe it not, I have Simple Grammer, MCT Island, FLL, English for the Child, WWE: Complete Writer (waiting to receive it in the mail) and now I bought Brave Writer! This is how mixed up I am :lol: I really need to see see these different things in my hands to know if it will fit in our schooling. This is happening because I chose to go outside a boxed curriculum AND I am changing my philosophy of homeschooling and realizing now that I need to do more nitty, gritty "schoolish" stuff in a non-conventional manor and be more consistent across the curriculum. I feel like I am starting over with homeschooling as I plan by Grades 4-6 stuff. The early grades was fun but now I have to dig in deeper with the schooling. And Yes, I have this one, too! I am not impress with Queen's stuff. It seems more dumbing down stuff compared to Simple Grammer and MCT Island. BUT it could be because I bought "Queen's LL for the YOUNG ones" :lol: This is my struggle, according to SWB, learning to write persuavely and writing research papers in high school are two different things. Learning to write research papers won't make you necessarily write good persuasive papers in English or Philosphy classes. To me, I think that does NOT mean one is better than the other. I think BOTH are important. This is my struggle on how to get there......... But all this is wonderful things to think about :) Thank you for more links to check out.

Thanks. I didn't know there was a placement test. I will look into that.

Hi Sagira -- I would love to hear more of how you are incorporating WWE to make it more CM.....I think you said you were going to use it across the your curriculum??? I saw you mention this another writing program thread ;) :lurk5:

AH, I see!!!! Thank you! That makes it much clearer. OK back to square one--- which program WWE, HOD, Simply Charlotte...... Atleast now I know where I am going. :D Thank you everyone for helping me see what I need to do :)

I saw an old post that someone contacted Homebuyers Club and they said that is didn't have any, yet. It is up to the seller whether they put an expiration date or not. It can change at anytime! Question: Brave Writer looks good for getting the child to write their own stuff BUT will they be able to write arguments in High School. Ok the word escapes me at the moment. It's what SWB says about learning to write thru the school year in public school where they write and write but they can't write coherently in College. Sort of like me, doing now :lol: I want better writing from my son. So, now I understand WHY some people are using Bravewriter AND WWE. WWE for writing coherant arguments and Bravewriter for creative writing. I think I am graviting that way, too. These boards are dangerous :lol:

Yes! I JUSt found it. Now I need to figure out what i need :lol:

Just looked at brave Writer and it looked good and then the price! :svengo:

This is a program that you start in Grade 5, correct? So, I wondered what I needed to do in Grade 4 to catch up to WWS for Grade 5? :001_unsure: Thank you ladies. I will look into all the different avenues suggested and mull it over. :)

Even though I recently have found CHarlotte Mason, I did manage to do narration ala CM way (not knowing I was doing that). When my son was in 1st grade, I did narration with him, speaking what is important to him from a chapter read to him. In second grade, we added, after narration, he dictated to me a summary and then I had him copy his summary into his book. This we continued in Grade 3. He hates writing. It's a chore. So I am concern on how to proceed. Recently I have been reading about WWE and all the writing threads that have popped up recently. I looked into WWE and found we have not done dictation. I really like what SWb says in WWE and how laid out the program is in steps. In CM, I think she started dictation in 8-9 yrs old, correct? I have attempted the to do alittle "studied" dictation with my ds ala Simply Charlotte but I noticed the sentences I have chosen are too diffficult for doing first time dictation with ds. So, I was wondering if there a detailed program like WWE (open and go) that is for the CM way? Also, if you used WWE or another writing program and fitted to be more CM, I would love to hear your experiences. I am trying to figure out what to do next year for Grade 4-- start at the beginning w/ WWE 1 (because he would love the Laura Ingalls and Pooh passages) and adjust to CM way, where needed or something else. I am really need a hand holding program and open and go program, atleast for the 1st year, before I can use the writing program across the curriculum, which is my ultimate goal. Any and all experiences, advice, etc. appreciated :bigear:

Great lists! :bigear: How about "Swallows and Amazons" book series?

Great thread! I am all :bigear: to incorporate all the wonderful ideas from this thread. :D

Merry----You brought some very important points. Thank you so much for typing that out. I checked your blog out and I would love to pick your brain about what do with my 3rd Grader for writing. May I send you a PM about my question? :)

Is there lesson plans online somewhere?

Do you put up an Ancients Wall World Map when using SOTW1? If you have one where do I buy one?

Thanks! That worked.

Could YOU please tell me how? I just ried to do a search and it seemed to be the most unamswered question :lol: Someone said to click on the name but I do not see an option for feedback. :confused:

If he likes space - there the "George's key to the Universe" by Lucy and Stephen Hawkin. It has spying, too. That's my son got his imaginaery game of spying in the neighborhood :lol:

Thanks everyone for replying. It helps to make a decision. :)

bump -- Did anybody use the Noeo's microscope recommendation for Biology II or did you buy a better one? :)

Hi, I wondered if anybody has done Noeo Science Biology II? I was thinking of using this next year for Grade 4. I noticed there was a microscope included in the kit (for 20.00)....Now really...is this microscope really work???:lol: I wondered your experience with this curriculum.

The Wonderful Flight of the Mushroom Planet. Time and Space of Uncle Albert My libraries do not have these!!! AND I JUST put in an order on Amazon! I could have added these to get the Super Saver Savings.... :willy_nilly: