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Oooh, I never thought of doing SOTW 3 and 4 in one year. Maybe I will try that and see how far we get. Maybe if we get through at least WWI or so that will be good. More replies welcome. :)

Help me decide! I was planning on continuing with SOTW 3 next year with a third grader, but taking a little longer and spending a little more time on highlights of American history. I have the book "The American Story" used by Winter Promise, which I thought would be a nice addition (we won't read all of it, just fit in some highlights). I was also going to use the Sonlight core 3 readers and some of the readalouds. I was going to do the same thing when we got to SOTW 4. But I'll also have a first/second grader then. And I've also thought, maybe I am nuts to try to fit all the extra stuff in to SOTW. It is plenty by itself and I worry they will end up not remembering much if I try to cram too much in. So, alternative-- do just SOTW 3 as written this year, plus SL 3 readers. Then instead of SOTW4, do SL core 3+4 as a one year concentration of Am. history. Then move back into the ancients. The first/second grader could just listen in on SL 3/4 and I'm sure I could find readalouds and picture books more at that level to supplement.

:001_huh: That doesn't sound like a good way to encourage a love of exercise and fitness.

My 5 year old regularly walks a couple of miles with me. He could do more if he has breaks. The main thing is he can't walk as fast as everyone else. So if he is walking, I don't feel like I get my heart rate up enough to count as "real" exercise, even though it's better than nothing and it's good for all of us to go. If he is riding his bike I'm sure he could go farther. But we've never gone more than 2 miles at a time on the bikes. The good thing about the bike, though, is that he can go faster, and I have to jog at times to keep up with him. So I get more of a workout. Oh, and I was going to suggest Leslie Sansone DVD's, too. Even if they are just for rainy days. Easy and you can do them around the kids. You can even play your own music if you get sick of the DVD music.

I think this is quite a stretch. The OP was vague. We don't even know how old the child is. And a 5 year old that spits doesn't necessarily become a teen that spits.

Sometimes, yes. I think the person who cuts in line is the one that looks foolish and everyone knows it. I don't feel a need to be the line police. Now if I am standing in line at the pharmacy with my sick kid waiting for the medicine, I'm going to say something. I'm assuming you are a lovely person who is assertive in certain situations, but the posts come across as looking for someone to do something wrong so you can call them out on it. Like the person not standing up for the national anthem. I think the person loudly commenting on it looks just as socially inappropriate as the person doing it. :confused: Exactly how does someone sitting down affect you? And how does your commenting on it and the person being shamed into standing, make the world a better place?

Wow. I agree these things are annoying but calling people out all the time isn't the best way to win people over to your way of thinking.

By the parents? Or by dogooders observing badly behaved children in the mall? :D

Don't forget the poorly behaved adults. I think we should loudly chastise them, too. Shame them into behaving better. :tongue_smilie:

:iagree: And I would not speak to him directly unless the child was over 9 or so. And then it would depend on if I thought it was deliberate or whether there might be something "off" about the kid. This could be very poor parenting, it could be a kid goofing off and his parents need to correct it. But let them do it. It is not a kid at church or a scheduled activity or even on the playground, it is random strangers walking past in a mall. The OP never said how old the child was but if it was a 5 year old I, too, would be upset if a stranger decided to sat something to my child instead of me. A 5 year old might not truly understand the connotations of spitting-- I mean, they might have been told not to do it, but not truly understand the offensive connotations it has to an adult.

My stylist recommended Croc brand which is the kind they use in the place I go. I need to get one but they ar spendy.

They can be however they want to be, because the people that start them make the rules. :tongue_smilie: Anyone is welcome to organize and start their own co-op. I can imagine why they have the co-habitation rule. Are the parents the ones teaching? I can imagine several reasons for that. Yeah, the dress code seems rigid. I guess if you are going to have rules, maybe they feel it is best to spell it out so they don't have teens and parents arguing with them over what is too short and what isn't. I truly don't understand the problem some people seem to have with tank tops, either. I don't think people's upper arms are that particularly enticing. :tongue_smilie: However, in the case of co-ops, people can make whatever rules they want to. Join, or don't. Perhaps they want it to be very small and exclusive.

I wouldn't have a problem, but... was there a loo on the way? LOL maybe she hung back because she had to make a "stop". People with joint issues or balance issues can have trouble on slopes.

Yeah, that's not good. :( I was going to answer the thread by saying that yes, my siblings can correct my kids that are doing something wrong, but by correct, I mean saying "hey, don't do that, kid", or asking them to apologize for hurting someone, but definitely not doling out punishments. Any further corrections beyond telling them to stop, would be for me to assess. To the OP I would step in the first time she goes to correct one of my kids and say, "Thanks, but I've got it." And if she keeps overstepping the boundary, I'd get firmer and have a talk with her in private.

conscious sedation at our pediatric dentist means they give you valium a short time beforehand. I think it can mean different things depending on doctor or dentist. You have to be conscious so you can follow directions, open and close your mouth, not be in danger of stopping breathing or something like that.

:iagree: Why not have him call some younger doctors to find out what it was like, what they would recommend, also? He could start with his ped or your family doctor. Has he shadowed? I was just reading the other day about how much debt doctors take on for med school? I would want to be sure my kids have some medical experiences before they would take that on. If I have any children that decide to try for these things I will also encourage them to have a back-up plan. I had a friend who tried for years to get into dental school, unsuccessfully. Another for med school. If they don't have degrees or skills that will be useful for some other employment, then what?

Very wise words. And in addition to the bolded, I'd add, your children are learning financial responsibility and ethics. What do children learn when parents spend money they don't have and take money from others (government) when they have disposable income? My family has been fortunate enough to afford some outside activities. I thought my kids needed more activities because they are homeschooled. But from what I have seen so far, the really excellent extracurricular activities that are worth the money we pay for them, are few and far between. Many sound like a great idea but when you look closer are no better or not as good as what can be provided at home or through church, friends.

I couldn't access the first trial. In the second one, they found that after a series of three shots, the 9-15 year olds were still immune after 12 months. One year. Is there any data looking at it up to 10 or 20 years? I could not find any. Where is the long term data showing that this vaccine actually prevents complications and death from cervical cancer? There isn't any, is there?

I will give it but if I had a 13 yo right now I'd wait. #1 wait for more experience with it. I recall many many medications and vaccines that were taken off the market or had recommendations changed after a few years of use. #2 Thirteen is awfully young. We don't know how long immunity lasts. I'm not going to kid myself that my dd's would never have premarital s*x, however, at 13, that is highly highly unlikely, and I'd rather wait and make sure they get it at a time when it will be effective. Also I think the clinical trials were done on young women, not girls of 11- 15.

It can be either. There is an article about this in the latest Home Education magazine. The authors want everyone to use "homeschool" because it implies a completely different way of schooling, a new entity.

Is there some sort of feedback system here where the rest of us can benefit from knowing who the better sellers are? I get frustrated with Amazon, too. My main issue is getting books that are the wrong edition, or paperback instead of hardback, or poor condition (especially old library books when it doesn't say so, I hate that). But I have found Amazon customer support and guarantee is very good. I have a few favorite large volume sellers at amazon that are reliable for me, and I always try to buy from those.

I think this is a HUGE problem with any research in sociology, education, psychology. These things are not sciences and cannot be studied the same way as true sciences can. Too much subjectivity involved even in the most controlled of experiments. Education research beginning in the last century is part and parcel of the whole dumbing down of the USA. I think Alfie Kohn is a progressive who likes to be in the public eye and write things that are controversial. I like a lot of what he says. I agree with him some of the time. Unfortunately he has a lot of criticisms of what is wrong with education and parenting, but not a lot of insight into improving them.

This is what came to mind when I saw this thread. All the IEP stuff and the extra aids cost a huge amount of money. And it seems that every other kid has a diagnosis these days. Not that they shouldn't receive help, but I would rather see charitable foundations set up to raise money independently and work with public schools to provide services for special needs children. For one, I bet they would actually be able to get more funds that way, and I think there's quite a good chance the funds would be better managed and allocated, and parents would have more of an influence. Maybe I'm naive. But it seems innovative ideas in ps are sorely needed.

I think a lot of kids must wonder that, no matter how they were schooled. It's natural to wonder what the other side must be like.