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WWS 1 for a 5th Grader???


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I am thinking about using WWS 1 with my fifth grader (10 yo). I used it with my oldest when he was in 7th, and he learned so much and is a great writer. I love the curriculum. I'm just concerned my 10 yo might be too young for it. He doesn't have any learning challenges and seems to learn easily. Do any of you have experience with WWS with a student this young?

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Yeah, it's hard to tell.  I mean, you could try...  I know it is supposed to be for 5th grade and up, but I tried it with a 5th grader (and she tested as gifted at ps) and we had to drop it halfway through.  She needed way too much handholding.  We tried it again when dd and ds were in 7th and it was perfect.  

 

It's actually a great writing program, though.

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I'm planning to start it with my younger in 5th grade. I'm expecting that most weeks in the book will take twice as long as scheduled, and I'll alternate in some weeks of Killgallon and maybe Faltering Ownership. That way we can finish the three WWS books over 5th-8th without feeling the schedule pressure that I'm feeling with my older two who are working through WWS2 in 7th and who I anticipate will need to work well into this summer to finish.

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We used it in 5th grade but with WTMA which may have made it easier to use. I didn't have to be involved. DD wasn't terribly excited to continue with WWS - not sure whether it was the teacher or the way writing is taught in WWS. She did very well with the class, but that's not an indicator it was an interesting enough class or teacher for her to continue.

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Yeah, it's hard to tell.  I mean, you could try...  I know it is supposed to be for 5th grade and up, but I tried it with a 5th grader (and she tested as gifted at ps) and we had to drop it halfway through.  She needed way too much handholding.  We tried it again when dd and ds were in 7th and it was perfect.  

 

It's actually a great writing program, though.

This was my experience too. We ended up just continuing with Rod and Staff writing assignments and writing across the curriculum, and I then taught mine the 5 para graph essay on my own. That ended up being enough for most of middle school. My gifted kid worked through WWS in 8th and 9th and that was ok with me.  It shored up her stuff and taught her some discipline in her writing. 

 

I think for my other that is a late bloomer because of dyslexia it will be just right at that age for different reasons. I think it will help her learn to write in the first place.  For her R&S at a lower than grade level has been ok for middle school. 

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My son is using it this year in 7/8th/ newly turned 13 it has been just perfect for him but writing is one of his weak areas. I've been debating about when to start dd1 with it, I've thought about using it at half speed next year but I also think she'd likely benefit more from it when she is a bit older, for now I'm just waiting to see how this year goes. Fwiw I'm not worried about finishing it before highschool, I know SWB says that even if students *just* get through WWS in high school they will be better off than many she sees in college and my kid will get to where they get when they are ready. My son will make it through all of WWS and at this point I'm planning for him to get at least a year of Rhetoric before graduation.

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I started Ds when he was in 6th, but he's a year ahead so he was 10 years old when we started. It is a very challenging program, but doable. I think the most important thing, especially when implementing at a younger age, is to go at your own pace and don't try to finish the book within the "day" time frames that are scheduled. Now in 8th grade, we're still in book 2. 

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My Dd started it in 5th b/c I just couldn't find anything else to keep her busy for a year and meet our writing goals. I took it slowly and it was an adjustment for a couple weeks but she's done well with it overall. I've assigned some writing in our science and history on whatever we've been working on in WWS and that's been helpful. As long as you're willing to go slowly at first and scaffold as needed, you should be fine IMO. 

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