mmasc Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 I need advice. My oldest is in 10th. I missed the PSAT date in October at the local private school. None of our local schools (public or private) have the PSAT 10 scheduled for spring. So, what should I do? In the past we’ve done the Stanford 10 online through Seton. He did it every other year thru 7th, 8th he was in public school, 9th we didn’t do a test. Should I do Stanford 10 again? Pros: easy to administer, he is familiar with it. Possible cons: it isn’t timed or a paper copy like the ACT or SAT will be, so he doesn’t have a lot of practice with timed tests. Should I try the IOWA this year? I have 6th and 4th dss too; maybe I’ll just do IOWA for them all and see how they do with the written thing. What are your thoughts? Thanks! (I have a B.S., so can administer either) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almondbutterandjelly Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 I always did the CAT test through Christian Liberty. It is timed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmasc Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, perky said: I always did the CAT test through Christian Liberty. It is timed. I hadn’t looked at this one. Is it a paper test? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almondbutterandjelly Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, mmasc said: I hadn’t looked at this one. Is it a paper test? We always did the computer version but they do have a paper test, too. (I just like the immediate results of the computer version. Instant gratification is my favorite 🙂 ) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKS Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) We used the ITED (ITBS for high school). If he doesn't have extended time accommodations, the timed aspect will be good to get used to. Edited January 11, 2021 by EKS 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucy the Valiant Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 The CLT 10 has been free, easy, and online the last few years. It's the PSAT-level-correlation for the Classical Learning Test. (Our goal in testing was for the students to gain experience, and to meet state requirements, so - it was perfect for both of those!) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cintinative Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 On 1/10/2021 at 8:21 PM, Lucy the Valiant said: The CLT 10 has been free, easy, and online the last few years. It's the PSAT-level-correlation for the Classical Learning Test. (Our goal in testing was for the students to gain experience, and to meet state requirements, so - it was perfect for both of those!) Talk to me more about this please. Does your state accept it for notification requirements? (It sounds like yes.) If so, how did you find out it would be accepted? Is it available to be taken at home, or do we need to find a testing center? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucy the Valiant Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, cintinative said: Talk to me more about this please. Does your state accept it for notification requirements? (It sounds like yes.) If so, how did you find out it would be accepted? Is it available to be taken at home, or do we need to find a testing center? My state has 3 annual evaluation options, one of which involves a "standardized test" - since the CLT is a college entrance exam accepted by > 150 colleges and universities in place of SAT or ACT, I personally have deemed it "acceptable" as a "standardized exam." (I am not required to report WHICH exam, so the choice is mine; I could also use CAT, IOWA, Stanford, etc.). *IF* I choose the testing option, the kids need to score in the 40th percentile, but I do not have to report that to any outside agency (our other options are a portfolio evaluation - I serve as one of the state evaluators - *or* a mutually-agreed-upon Option 3). The CLT (college entrance test) is administered in a school setting (register just like for SAT), but the CLT 10 (PSAT 10 equivalent) and CLT 8 (PSAT 8/9 equivalent) can be taken at home on the student's individual computer. It's a practice exam for the CLT, and timed, and you get results in 1-2 days. My 9th and 10th graders have taken it to fulfill the annual assessment for several years now; my younger kids do IOWA, and my olders just do CLT or SAT. This year my junior actually took the PSAT in person back in October, so we will use that this year for that kid. The scoring correlation has held pretty much true for my kids, too. I'm not sure if the CLT 10 is always free, or if it has been free for the last few years as a way to garner interest, but - it has served our needs quite well. CLT 10 Edited January 13, 2021 by Lucy the Valiant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cintinative Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 54 minutes ago, Lucy the Valiant said: My state has 3 annual evaluation options, one of which involves a "standardized test" - since the CLT is a college entrance exam accepted by > 150 colleges and universities in place of SAT or ACT, I personally have deemed it "acceptable" as a "standardized exam." (I am not required to report WHICH exam, so the choice is mine; I could also use CAT, IOWA, Stanford, etc.). *IF* I choose the testing option, the kids need to score in the 40th percentile, but I do not have to report that to any outside agency (our other options are a portfolio evaluation - I serve as one of the state evaluators - *or* a mutually-agreed-upon Option 3). The CLT (college entrance test) is administered in a school setting (register just like for SAT), but the CLT 10 (PSAT 10 equivalent) and CLT 8 (PSAT 8/9 equivalent) can be taken at home on the student's individual computer. It's a practice exam for the CLT, and timed, and you get results in 1-2 days. My 9th and 10th graders have taken it to fulfill the annual assessment for several years now; my younger kids do IOWA, and my olders just do CLT or SAT. This year my junior actually took the PSAT in person back in October, so we will use that this year for that kid. The scoring correlation has held pretty much true for my kids, too. I'm not sure if the CLT 10 is always free, or if it has been free for the last few years as a way to garner interest, but - it has served our needs quite well. CLT 10 In Ohio, we have to submit the composite score. Are you not required to do that in your state? We also have the portfolio review option. We have done IOWA in the past and I submitted the composite score. Thank you in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cintinative Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 On 1/12/2021 at 7:48 PM, Lucy the Valiant said: I'm not sure if the CLT 10 is always free, or if it has been free for the last few years as a way to garner interest, but - it has served our needs quite well. CLT 10 Do you pay for the extra report (the student analytics)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ByGrace3 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 We will be doing the CLT 10 this year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cintinative Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 9 hours ago, ByGrace3 said: We will be doing the CLT 10 this year. Do you know if it is worth it to pay for the analytics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodGrief3 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 On 1/10/2021 at 3:09 PM, mmasc said: I need advice. My oldest is in 10th. I missed the PSAT date in October at the local private school. None of our local schools (public or private) have the PSAT 10 scheduled for spring. So, what should I do? In the past we’ve done the Stanford 10 online through Seton. He did it every other year thru 7th, 8th he was in public school, 9th we didn’t do a test. Should I do Stanford 10 again? Pros: easy to administer, he is familiar with it. Possible cons: it isn’t timed or a paper copy like the ACT or SAT will be, so he doesn’t have a lot of practice with timed tests. Should I try the IOWA this year? I have 6th and 4th dss too; maybe I’ll just do IOWA for them all and see how they do with the written thing. What are your thoughts? Thanks! (I have a B.S., so can administer either) Do you need a standardized test for some reason? Or are you just considering this practice for the junior year PSAT? If it's the latter, I am not sure that taking a different standardized test at home will be terribly useful. I'd be prepping for the PSAT (or SAT) itself, with timed practice tests specific to that exam. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucy the Valiant Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 On 1/12/2021 at 8:44 PM, cintinative said: In Ohio, we have to submit the composite score. Are you not required to do that in your state? We also have the portfolio review option. We have done IOWA in the past and I submitted the composite score. Thank you in advance! No, I am not required to submit the composite. On 1/13/2021 at 8:07 PM, cintinative said: Do you pay for the extra report (the student analytics)? I haven't, because we had no need for the information. 10 hours ago, GoodGrief3 said: Do you need a standardized test for some reason? Or are you just considering this practice for the junior year PSAT? If it's the latter, I am not sure that taking a different standardized test at home will be terribly useful. I'd be prepping for the PSAT (or SAT) itself, with timed practice tests specific to that exam. I agree that if you're wanting practice for the PSAT or SAT, taking the CLT will not likely benefit the student too much. The PSAT and SAT *are quite similar since the 2016 SAT revisions, though, so practicing the SAT *will help a student prepare for the PSAT. Practice SAT's are available free online (from College Board website as well as through Khan Academy). I tutor locally for the SAT, and one observation from my (limited) personal experience is that students lose approximately 100 points on the SAT just by taking it on the computer. My hunch is that there are several reasons WHY this is true, but - it's been fairly universal, in my years of experience. Enough that I go out of my way to find a test center that will administer the paper version for my own kids. (That said, they take the CLT 10 online because we don't really care about the scores there.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ByGrace3 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 On 1/13/2021 at 8:07 PM, cintinative said: Do you pay for the extra report (the student analytics)? Now that you mention it, I paid for the analytics and don't remember what info it gave. I will look back at it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmasc Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 16 hours ago, GoodGrief3 said: Do you need a standardized test for some reason? Or are you just considering this practice for the junior year PSAT? If it's the latter, I am not sure that taking a different standardized test at home will be terribly useful. I'd be prepping for the PSAT (or SAT) itself, with timed practice tests specific to that exam. Yes, it’s required for our state. But that’s a good tip about prepping for the PSAT. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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