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Spelling for older kids--Apples and Pears?

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Is this a good program for older kids?  My middle schooler took the highest placement test (level C) and got them all correct.  It says it is not recommended to start higher than book C.  He and my older high school son are still behind in spelling so I want to keep working on this. 

 

I thought I had decided on Sequential Spelling but now I'm also considering Megawords or Apples and Pears (because I hear such good things).   It needs to be easy to implement as well as effective. 

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We used it. DD was a little younger and it got to the point it was going too fast for her, but it sounds like your kids could whip through C and do D with no problem. It only requires 2 books (workbook and TM) compared to some of the myriad parts and pieces of other curricula (I've used more than I'm willing to admit). Both books are required, though, because you can't do the dictation without the TM. 

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Thank you.  I'm reading that it would take a child to about the 6th grade level so I don't know.  That's about where they are now.  But would knowing the morphemes help them apply it to more advanced words?  I'm just unsure what to choose.  

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I think if they're beyond Apples and Pears then Megawords would be a good option. Megawords also teaches using morphemes. 

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Are the complete books still available for preview on their website? If so, you could give the tests from the final books and see where they land. That might give you a good idea if there is anything to be gained by finishing the series. If they do pretty well, it might not be much benefit to them. (Referring to Apples and Pears)

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The best spelling success we had was with Spell to Read and Write.  Even though I was starting with an older dc, we started at the beginning and worked up.  It went pretty fast early on, but as we started filling in holes/gaps, the pace slowed a bit.  Ultimately we were where we needed to be and learning was taking place. 

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Are people using Apples and Pears for everyone now; I thought it was primarily used for dyslexic children and children struggling with literacy?  Maybe I'm reading to much into it, I use AAS with my kids, but I thought that Apples and Pears over taught specifically for those children who other programs wouldn't necessarily be enough for.  I have an older child who struggles a little in spelling, and is using AAS as a middle schooler, but I wouldn't necessarily choose a remedial program for him.

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My dd is dyslexic, so that's why we used it. 

 

But I don't understand your question.  The program starts with the basics, and advances to about 6th grade level spelling, all while training the mind to think about, see, and use the morphemes.  It is time consuming, but IMO WAY less annoying and frustrating than AAS...I am not being snarky just saying that, like anything, if you have a student that needs it, it doesn't matter who or what it was intended for...

 

But yes, in her situation, since her students are already at the 6th grade level in spelling, it wouldn't help all that much.  OP is better off with MegWords.

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My dd is dyslexic, so that's why we used it. 

 

But I don't understand your question.  The program starts with the basics, and advances to about 6th grade level spelling, all while training the mind to think about, see, and use the morphemes.  It is time consuming, but IMO WAY less annoying and frustrating than AAS...I am not being snarky just saying that, like anything, if you have a student that needs it, it doesn't matter who or what it was intended for...

 

But yes, in her situation, since her students are already at the 6th grade level in spelling, it wouldn't help all that much.  OP is better off with MegWords.

I was only wondering if it was now being recommended across the board.  I see it recommended more and more for all learners, while for years I only heard about it being used for dyslexics.  I have a DS who is dyslexic and if things don't improve by Christmas we will probably be switching him to this program, but it wasn't something I considered with my other children. 

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Apples and Pears was designed with dyslexic children in mind, but it's not that over the top or that expensive, that it can't be used with other children. It's not comparable to LiPS or Barton as far as "over teaching". IMO the only kids it would be no good for is natural spellers. 

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I'm using book A with my 5th grader who has dysgraphia. He's not dyslexic, but has some overlapping symptoms. He also can't spell his way out of a paper bag if he hasn't memorized the spelling already. And I mean he'll put weird letters in the middle of a word and you're thinking, "There's no 'r' sound in that word! Where is that coming from?!?" I'm thankful that he doesn't think the book is babyish. We started at lesson 1 - tracing letters. It's good for him, due to the dysgraphia. He really needed to go back to the beginning.

 

The entire contents are still on the website, so you can see what they look like and whether they would benefit your students. I agree with others that Megawords might be a better choice.

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Megawords is probably a more appropriate level. You could quickly work through my Syllables series, focusing on the spelling rules, it gets into word roots and the morpheme level the last half and quickly goes through all the basic spelling rules the first half.

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