melmichigan Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Anyone else have a child take the new SAT? I'm really surprised at my DD's scores, they are a lot lower than expected compared to her older ACT scores. I'm wondering if this is a common with the new test, or if it is something else? She did not prep for this sitting (has never prepped before for standardized tests), as it was required as part of her yearly testing. We will definitely be looking for some prep work for the new test, and maybe have her take the ACT again as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 (edited) The new SAT started in March 2016. My oldest took in June 2016. My youngest took in November 2016 and June 2017. Their 2016 SAT scores tallied quite well with their ACT scores (2015 for older, 2016 for younger) according to the concordance table by CollegeBoard in below link https://collegereadiness.collegeboard.org/pdf/higher-ed-brief-sat-concordance.pdf Edited July 12, 2017 by Arcadia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wapiti Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 (edited) At least a few selective schools reported separate middle 50% scores for New and Old SATs, and the New ones were similar to, or lower than, the Old ones. There is some question about the accuracy - perhaps quality would be a better term - of the concordance tables and whether selective colleges are actually using them. I have also seen speculation that the New SAT may be "easier" in the middle percentile ranges but harder in the very high ranges that would be relevant to selective colleges.Arcadia, how much time passed in between your kids' ACT and SAT tests where the scores did correlate per the College Board's concordance tables? ETA, it is probably just my imagination, but reading a few individual SAT discussions over at CC, it seems as though there may be a good deal of variability in difficulty between different administrations of the New SAT. Edited June 7, 2017 by wapiti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 (edited) Arcadia, how much time passed in between your kids' ACT and SAT tests where the scores did correlate per the College Board's concordance tables?For my older boy,ACT was October 2015, SAT was June 2016, so 8 months 98th percentile approximately For younger boy, ACT was June 2016, SAT was November 2016, so 5 months. 88th percentile approximately Edited July 12, 2017 by Arcadia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyforlatin Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 For my older boy, ACT was October 2015, SAT was June 2016, so 8 months 98th percentile approximately For younger boy, ACT was June 2016, SAT was November 2016, so 5 months. 88th percentile approximately But off topic, but you're here, so I might as well ask, did your kids complete the essay? We're still on the fence with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 (edited) But off topic, but you're here, so I might as well ask, did your kids complete the essay? We're still on the fence with that. Nope. This was the dry run just to get their baseline scores. They will do the SAT with essay when they are in 11th grade. Edited July 12, 2017 by Arcadia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wapiti Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Arcadia, are you saying that the percentiles reported were also identical between the tests (I am assuming they are not talent-search percentiles)? Or were there slight differences? Thinking out loud, I imagine you might expect some growth over time, and that's why I wondered how much time occurred in between. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootAnn Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 (edited) DD's PSAT scores were a little lower than her ACT would have suggested, but not crazy out of line. (PSAT last Nov, ACT this Apr) ETA: With charts Arcadia posted in the post following this one, her total PSAT % is 2% lower than her composite ACT %. With the concordance tables posted in her first post in this thread, there is a bigger gap (2 pts on the ACT/60 pts on the PSAT). Some of the difference could be attributed to growth, FWIW. Edited June 7, 2017 by RootAnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 (edited) Arcadia, are you saying that the percentiles reported were also identical between the tests (I am assuming they are not talent-search percentiles)? Or were there slight differences? Thinking out loud, I imagine you might expect some growth over time, and that's why I wondered how much time occurred in between.My oldest SAT and ACT percentiles are actually 1 percentile difference so not identical but very close. Younger is 2 percentile difference so again not identical but very close. I am using this ACT chart http://www.act.org/content/dam/act/unsecured/documents/Multiple_Choice_STEM_Ranks2016.pdf and this SAT chart page 6 https://collegereadiness.collegeboard.org/pdf/understanding-sat-scores-2016.pdf My oldest did not prep for both. My youngest did light prep because of his "slow speed" issue. No prep for timed tests would be torture for my younger. I wasn't expecting growth actually. My husband and I didn't know what to expect for SAT and ACT so our kids were basically "guinea pigs" for us. ETA: Actually I put the percentile down to show that weirdly the concordance table was close both for my higher percentile kid and my normal percentile kid. It was in response to your comment "... speculation that the New SAT may be "easier" in the middle percentile ranges but harder in the very high ranges that would be relevant to selective colleges." Edited July 12, 2017 by Arcadia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 (edited) ETA, it is probably just my imagination, but reading a few individual SAT discussions over at CC, it seems as though there may be a good deal of variability in difficulty between different administrations of the New SAT. It seems that way. My younger boy managed to finish this time round last Saturday while he didn't finish any section in November. He didn't do any English curriculum this year and math was light. He also didn't have any timed test between the two SAT test dates. He did the same amount of test prep both times. We'll see how it reflects in terms of scores when we get his score report by mail probably in end July. It was a good confidence booster none the less as this is the first time he finished a timed test, especially the reading comprehension section. Edited July 12, 2017 by Arcadia 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 ETA, it is probably just my imagination, but reading a few individual SAT discussions over at CC, it seems as though there may be a good deal of variability in difficulty between different administrations of the New SAT. Younger did very well for the June SAT (2nd time), better than older did for last year's June SAT (1st time). It seems my boys are lucky on the June test dates. His composite score (without essay) went up 250 points. I'm surprised he pulled through >700 for ERW. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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