Math Curricula in eBook format

[Hunter]

I know I ask this every few months, but I just keep hoping there will be a new option available.

 

Yes, I know about Math Mammoth. I should probably just buy that, use that, and be done with it.

[stripe]

I know of these:

 

* vintage (I know you know about these!)

* MEP (free)

* NCERT from India (free)

http://ncertbooks.prashanthellina.com/ / as zip files at http://www.notemonk.com/,  http://www.ncert.nic.in/ncerts/textbook/textbook.htm

* Tokyo Shoseki textbooks and Kyoiku Dojinsha workbooks, translated into English from Japanese

PDFs sold by http://www.globaledresources.com/

* MathText project from Taiwan (free, with all sorts of interactive components, workbooks, textbooks, and extremely cute) - in Chinese

http://mathtext.project.edu.tw/

* CK12 (free)

http://www.ck12.org/student/

 

 

Maria Miller also has a very nice list

http://www.homeschoolmath.net/curriculum_reviews/curriculum_materials.php

 

And these, which are mostly college level, or at least high school

 

http://people.math.gatech.edu/~cain/textbooks/onlinebooks.html

http://www.freebookcentre.net/SpecialCat/Free-Mathematics-Books-Download.html

http://www.e-booksdirectory.com/listing.php?category=3

[Farrar]

Hunter, why not use MEP?

[Hunter]

Hunter, why not use MEP?

Maybe I need to look at it again. I remember it being awfully wide, though. I don't have the password for the answer keys anymore.

 

I don't need the curriculum to be free. I just want eBooks, instead of hardcopy. And I'm so tired of planning. I've been trying to come up with some 4 year 36 week modules, to use as default lesson plans. I need math to be on the narrower, rather than the wider side, and easy to just stuff 3 or 4 lessons into a "week". I don't care that a "week" gets done in a week. I just need an orderly DEFAULT plan, all on my iPad, to use as a guide.

 

I realized Saxon would work with 4 lessons a "week" if I skipped the tests. I started another thread looking for a school website with eBooks on their homework sites with the same editions as are being sold to homeschoolers. I don't mind saving up for and buying the books, and just tossing them on a shelf, so I can legally use the eBook.

 

I have a nice 4 year plan right now of SOTW, Mr. Q, LLtL, Grapevine Bible, and a few other things, all listed out nicely, with a big gaping hole for math.

 

I may have to scan something: Page, by page, by page. Sigh!

[stripe]

Maybe I need to look at it again. I remember it being awfully wide, though. I don't have the password for the answer keys anymore.

I don't think they are password-protected anymore. I don't remember seeing it for a few years, and they don't seem to show it now

http://www.cimt.plymouth.ac.uk/projects/mepres/primary/default.htm

[Hunter]

Okay, I'll see if I can access the MEP answer keys.

 

Stripe, are there answer keys for the Japanese math? I understand there isn't much teacher support, but I'm not sure if that includes no answer keys.

[stripe]

Stripe, are there answer keys for the Japanese math? I understand there isn't much teacher support, but I'm not sure if that includes no answer keys.

If you go to http://www.globaledresources.com/resources.html , you can get the workbook answers. You have to give them a name/email address to get them, but I've never received any spam from them.

[Farrar]

I guess I was thinking that MEP's lesson plans would be part of what you would want.  MM doesn't have lesson plans.

 

But the wide vs. narrow thing...  I think you're saying you want something that's basic arithmetic without any of the extras that most programs include now, like graphs and geometry and so forth?

[Hunter]

If you go to http://www.globaledresources.com/resources.html , you can get the workbook answers. You have to give them a name/email address to get them, but I've never received any spam from them.

Thanks! Are there keys for grades 7-9?

[Hunter]

I guess I was thinking that MEP's lesson plans would be part of what you would want. MM doesn't have lesson plans.

 

But the wide vs. narrow thing... I think you're saying you want something that's basic arithmetic without any of the extras that most programs include now, like graphs and geometry and so forth?

Going back for the 3rd time :D I didn't notice the lesson plans. I just get lost at MEP. SOME extras are good, but sometimes there are so many extras I cannot find the arithmetic.

[stripe]

Thanks! Are there keys for grades 7-9?

I think there are only answers for the Kyoiku Dojinsha workbooks, which are sold as print pages (as I understand it) for grades 1-6, not for the Tokyo Shoseki texts, which go to grade 9, and are being sold as PDFs. So, in other words, no.

 

I am emphasizing this because they sell two different products - a (PDF) textbook, for which there is no separate answer key document at any grade level, and a (print) workbook.

Here is their brochure about the gr 7-9 texts

http://www.globaledresources.com/products/assets/MathInternational0313_s.pdf

 

Also, it was my recollection that those who have called the company and spoken with employees there found the experience pleasant and helpful.

[Hunter]

I think there are only answers for the Kyoiku Dojinsha workbooks, which are sold as print pages (as I understand it) for grades 1-6, not for the Tokyo Shoseki texts, which go to grade 9, and are being sold as PDFs. So, in other words, no.

 

I am emphasizing this because they sell two different products - a (PDF) textbook, for which there is no separate answer key document at any grade level, and a (print) workbook.

Here is their brochure about the gr 7-9 texts

http://www.globaledresources.com/products/assets/MathInternational0313_s.pdf

 

Also, it was my recollection that those who have called the company and spoken with employees there found the experience pleasant and helpful.

I responded in the other thread.

http://forums.welltrainedmind.com/topic/474746-anyone-looked-at-these-japanese-math-books/?p=5379701

[Hunter]

I'm trying to like MEP. I just don't. It feels like such overkill to me. There are weeks that I like to make math my hobby, but then there are weeks another subject is my hobby, and I just want to do a little math and do that something else.

 

The Japanese workbooks are hardcopy, right? It's just the texts that are pdf? :banghead:

[mama27]

I know I ask this every few months, but I just keep hoping there will be a new option available.

 

Yes, I know about Math Mammoth. I should probably just buy that, use that, and be done with it.

 

 

I don't like MM but I do have some of it and decided to just print some of what I want to use, teach it my own way (it's just for a 7yo and 8yo) and forget it.

 

Have you looked at Currclick? They have a million math ebooks. Maybe something will appeal to you?

[stripe]

The Japanese workbooks are hardcopy, right? It's just the texts that are pdf? :banghead:

Yes, you're correct about both. 

 

They used to sell the texts as hardcopy but then changed.

[Nart]

Have you seen the Engage NY website that has a FREE complete curriculum from K through High School that is based on Common Core? I stayed up way too late last night looking at it. I downloaded all 5 second grade modules onto my iPad. Each module has a teacher's guide in PDF form that is over 100 pages long. When I looked at the curriculum it looked a lot like SM or MM. 

Here is the link to the website

http://www.engageny.org/mathematics

 

Here is a sample of the first module from second grade. Notice the number bonds, multiple methods of problems solving, making 10s, having the student  "Say it the 10 way" so 23 is two tens three.

 

http://www.engageny.org/sites/default/files/resource/attachments/g2-m1-full-module.pdf

 

A sample of a module from 5th grade on place value

http://www.engageny.org/sites/default/files/resource/attachments/g5-m1-full-module.pdf

 

A sample of 7th grade module

http://www.engageny.org/sites/default/files/resource/attachments/math-g7-m3-teacher-materials.pdf

Worksheets

http://www.engageny.org/sites/default/files/resource/attachments/math-g7-m3-student-materials.pdf

copy ready material

http://www.engageny.org/sites/default/files/resource/attachments/math-g7-m3-copy-ready-materials.pdf

 

 

 

[Hunter]

I don't like MM but I do have some of it and decided to just print some of what I want to use, teach it my own way (it's just for a 7yo and 8yo) and forget it.

 

Have you looked at Currclick? They have a million math ebooks. Maybe something will appeal to you?

I didn't see anything else at currclick that was attempting to be complete, other than Math Mammoth. Did I miss anything?

[Hunter]

This looks interesting. A little overwhelming, but interesting.

 

Have you seen the Engage NY website that has a FREE complete curriculum from K through High School that is based on Common Core? I stayed up way too late last night looking at it. I downloaded all 5 second grade modules onto my iPad. Each module has a teacher's guide in PDF form that is over 100 pages long. When I looked at the curriculum it looked a lot like SM or MM.

Here is the link to the website

http://www.engageny.org/mathematics

 

Here is a sample of the first module from second grade. Notice the number bonds, multiple methods of problems solving, making 10s, having the student "Say it the 10 way" so 23 is two tens three.

 

http://www.engageny.org/sites/default/files/resource/attachments/g2-m1-full-module.pdf

 

A sample of a module from 5th grade on place value

http://www.engageny.org/sites/default/files/resource/attachments/g5-m1-full-module.pdf

 

A sample of 7th grade module

http://www.engageny.org/sites/default/files/resource/attachments/math-g7-m3-teacher-materials.pdf

Worksheets

http://www.engageny.org/sites/default/files/resource/attachments/math-g7-m3-student-materials.pdf

copy ready material

http://www.engageny.org/sites/default/files/resource/attachments/math-g7-m3-copy-ready-materials.pdf

[mama27]

I didn't see anything else at currclick that was attempting to be complete, other than Math Mammoth. Did I miss anything?

 

 

Have you looked at this?

http://www.currclick.com/browse.php?manufacturers_id=634

 

It's called A+ Tutorsoft, in case the link doesn't work.

[mama27]

_{They also have some Barrons stiff. Like Painless Algebra, SAT prep, etc.}

[stripe]

Honestly, Hunter, I would hesitate to recommend the Japanese books to you unless you're sure they're what you want. I think the quality is excellent, but the support materials are lacking. I would just say, be sure. Or don't order the entire set at once. You know what I mean?

[mama27]

Have you seen the Engage NY website that has a FREE complete curriculum from K through High School that is based on Common Core? I stayed up way too late last night looking at it. I downloaded all 5 second grade modules onto my iPad. Each module has a teacher's guide in PDF form that is over 100 pages long. When I looked at the curriculum it looked a lot like SM or MM. 

Here is the link to the website

http://www.engageny.org/mathematics

 

Here is a sample of the first module from second grade. Notice the number bonds, multiple methods of problems solving, making 10s, having the student  "Say it the 10 way" so 23 is two tens three.

 

http://www.engageny.org/sites/default/files/resource/attachments/g2-m1-full-module.pdf

 

A sample of a module from 5th grade on place value

http://www.engageny.org/sites/default/files/resource/attachments/g5-m1-full-module.pdf

 

A sample of 7th grade module

http://www.engageny.org/sites/default/files/resource/attachments/math-g7-m3-teacher-materials.pdf

Worksheets

http://www.engageny.org/sites/default/files/resource/attachments/math-g7-m3-student-materials.pdf

copy ready material

http://www.engageny.org/sites/default/files/resource/attachments/math-g7-m3-copy-ready-materials.pdf

These look interesting. Reminds me of Rightstart. At least grade 2 that I looked at.

[Hunter]

Honestly, Hunter, I would hesitate to recommend the Japanese books to you unless you're sure they're what you want. I think the quality is excellent, but the support materials are lacking. I would just say, be sure. Or don't order the entire set at once. You know what I mean?

 

:lol: There is no chance of that with my current financial situation. I used to pass up food to afford these things. Now, even if I don't eat, I still can't do things like buy whole sets at a time.

 

The scope and sequence is giving me some ideas to better use what I already have. Part of my problem with all the assorted things I have, is not knowing how to organize them. I think I need to make a schedule just like the Japanese do. It's not about following the schedule to the T; it's just having a plan at all, and tweaking it over time as I test it out.

[Hunter]

Have you looked at this?

http://www.currclick.com/browse.php?manufacturers_id=634

 

It's called A+ Tutorsoft, in case the link doesn't work.

 

 

_{They also have some Barrons stiff. Like Painless Algebra, SAT prep, etc.}

 

I saw the A+ Tutorsoft, but couldn't find out any information about it as a stand alone product without the media.

 

I missed the Barron stuff. Thanks! I'll look at those.

[stripe]

:lol: There is no chance of that with my current financial situation. I used to pass up food to afford these things. Now, even if I don't eat, I still can't do things like buy whole sets at a time.

 

The scope and sequence is giving me some ideas to better use what I already have. Part of my problem with all the assorted things I have, is not knowing how to organize them. 

Okay, whew!

 

Anyway I find this website from Tad Watanabe, who is a consultant for Global Education Resources (the ones who sell the Japanese books in translation) and is a math education professor, to have lots of useful stuff on it:

http://science.kennesaw.edu/~twatanab/

including information on the Japanese course of study AND some grade 4 resources.

 

http://www.globaledresources.com/resources.html is interesting too. 

 

The MEP schedule for all primary years is at

http://www.cimt.plymouth.ac.uk/projects/mepres/primary/y126sw.pdf

and the Indian one is at 

http://www.ncert.nic.in/rightside/links/syllabus.html

 

I think it's interesting because they try to address social inequality and keep in mind the cultural atmosphere of their students, and lots of practical activities

(you need to download it as a zip file, under the lefthand picture with the caption "Syllabus for Classes at the Elementary Level")

 

[Hunter]

I don't know what it is that turns me away form MEP and Singapore that doesn't turn me away from the Japanese texts. It's weird, so I'm trying to figure it out.

 

I am a VERY visual learner, and with the brain damage I have suffered I benefit from simple maps even more. If there are too many details, I cannot see the framework of the map. There is something more visual, scaled back, and more OCD about the Japanese stuff. There is something significant that is different to ME.

 

I emailed the seller. He says there are no plans for pdf workbooks but is informing the publisher of American interest in pdfs.

 

I'm trying to figure out what I can APPLY from what I am attracted to in the Japanese products, or maybe buy the texts gradually one at a time. And maybe the workbooks will come out soon in pdf.

 

I may have to scan a hardcopy book or set of books, instead of trying to find an eBook curricula. I've realized that I really like color on the iPad. I don't like endless workbook pages with lots of white space that are designed to be printed. And some of it I can't put my finger on. I think it has to do with my brain damage. Sometimes I see, and sometimes I don't see, things I don't have the vocabulary to describe. I just know when I can see in general. And I know when I can see on the iPad.

 

I like MEP better when I click on 7-9, than the younger years. And don't know why about that either. Sigh!

 

I know I gravitate towards international 7-9 and always have, for both gifted and LD. I just use them at different ages, but still like the same stuff. I was using bits of MEP back in the early 2000s to supplement Algebra 1 with my gifted little guy, because I wanted those wide topics for him. And I like those wide 7-9 topics to FINISH off a remedial high school course for students that will never take full advanced math classes.

 

But too wide, for struggling early levels is cconfusing for me and them, if it's not done right. Added as a picture book. or stand alone enrichment is fine and beautiful even. But when wide is integrated, I get lost, and they get lost. I think the Japanese topics are less integrated and stand alone, in the early years, than the other Asian maths?

 

I'm rambling.

[FO4UR]

Have you seen Strayer-Upton?  I think those books might be what you are looking for content wise.  It's arithmetic done systematically, thoroughly.  It's simple.

 

 

The only thing is that I don't know that you can get them in ebook form.  Maybe an exception can be made for 3 small hardcovers?  The 3 books cover basic counting and adding through 8th grade  (ala 8th grade 100 years ago).  We work these orally, on a board, or copied onto notebook paper.  

 

 

Or maybe someone can find S-U in ebook format?  

[Hunter]

I have the SU books. They are not available as eBooks. I tore apart the 3rd grade book and scanned some of the pages, but gave up on that.

 

Amish teachers use study guides with these books. They have worked out lesson plans of what to prioritize and skipping the outdated parts.

 

Between the lack of an eBook version and lack of a study plan, I gave up on these books, but have been looking at them again this week.

 

Maybe, I just need to sit my butt in a chair and write a study guide.

[stripe]

I don't know what it is that turns me away form MEP and Singapore that doesn't turn me away from the Japanese texts. It's weird, so I'm trying to figure it out.

 

I am a VERY visual learner, and with the brain damage I have suffered I benefit from simple maps even more. If there are too many details, I cannot see the framework of the map. There is something more visual, scaled back, and more OCD about the Japanese stuff. There is something significant that is different to ME.

I think I know what it is: the Japanese books are very visually attractive and MEP is visually plain bordering on hideous (esp in the reception year, where there are lots of pictures). The layout of the Japanese books is also very professional and sharp, whereas MEP looks like it was done at home on a word processor by a regular person. The content of MEP is very integrated, and I think the Japanese segments are introduced in a topically divided way where it's very clear what's being introduced when. I really liked the use of geometry in the Japanese books.

 

I found that Kumon stuff correlated reasonably well with the Japanese workbooks when I used them for one semester of y1, and I had both my kids do the writing stuff from Kumon (1-20) -- it was laid out very well with tons of room for practicing writing. The writing style both show is the typical Japanese way of hand writing numbers. (You can see some things at KF Studio, e.g. this.)

[Hunter]

Believe it or not, the Japanese math reminds me of the Amish Study Time Arithmetic series.

 

There are similarities in Japanese and Amish society. I wish I could see more of the Japanese books, because I think maybe I'm starting to figure out what is attracting me.

 

A lot of current American math, is alienating to parents. There was a recent common core thread, where the OP was discussing how children were told not to have their parent help with homework and were marked wrong if they solved the problems using traditional methods.

 

In Japanese culture, mom is a big part of homework. I think the workbooks, which have been said to be the homework, are being written to be helpful to mom. This is accelerated stuff. It really needs to be reinforced at home. Amish parent don't help a lot with homework, but expect it to make sense to them.

 

The Japanese workbooks don't need special training, to be successfully used. I know some others here want MORE, than what is in the workbooks, but the workbooks seem to be able to accomplish SOMETHING significant without all the teacher training.

 

In Amish culture, children are all expected to do the same assignments on the same day, no matter how gifted or slow they are. The same is expected in Japanese schools. A certain type of lesson plans must be developed to ensure any chance of success with accomplishing this.

[Hunter]

Is any of the Kumon available in eBook?

[FO4UR]

I have the SU books. They are not available as eBooks. I tore apart the 3rd grade book and scanned some of the pages, but gave up on that.

 

Amish teachers use study guides with these books. They have worked out lesson plans of what to prioritize and skipping the outdated parts.

 

Between the lack of an eBook version and lack of a study plan, I gave up on these books, but have been looking at them again this week.

 

Maybe, I just need to sit my butt in a chair and write a study guide.

 

 

By the time I tried S-U, I had used a wide range of other math curricula.  I just "shoot from the hip" with math...for most of my lessons.  I do many things orally, and many things on a white board, and then I try to incorporate things into daily life. ( I forget to teach fractions via real life if I don't have a reminder.)  S-U is a good base to pull from for that sort of teaching.

 

 

 

A study guide for those books would be neat, especially if you could pull in some more modern and hands-on lessons.

 

 

I like the things like teaching a child to keep $ accounts for a club.  That is such a great skill, and you don't find that sort of thing in other math currics.  We spent a week on those lessons and it sparked interest that has led to some self-learning.  There is a treasure trove of math-teaching in those 3 little books.

[silver]

I've never used them, but the Verbal Math Lesson books are available for the kindle. Since they don't use worksheets, it could be a good on-the-go method to try.

[stripe]

Is any of the Kumon available in eBook?

I looked before I posted, hoping to be able to say yes, but I don't think so.

 

According to their website, they've just published their first ebook (http://kumonbooks.com/pittsun-tsun-the-sounds-of-a-rainy-day/ ), so maybe more will come?

http://kumonbooks.com/

[Hunter]

I forgot about Verbal Math lesson Kindle books. Thanks!

 

If I ever got locked down with SU, I know I could accomplish great things with it. But I just haven't given it the time it needs, before I get distracted.

 

Kumon is Japanese. I should have known that. Obviously I can't know about every curriculum. :lol: but I do know enough about so many of them, that it's not often I realize something as obvious as that Kumon is Japanese.

 

I really enjoy studying math, but I feel like I need a set map, to start plugging all I learn onto. Like, "Oh, this would help me teach year 3 week 10 better. I'll take some notes to direct me to this resource, next time I teach this topic."

[stripe]

I totally forgot about this one, Hunter! 

Benkyou math apps for grades 1-3, supposedly Japanese style (I think, just for drill)

http://math.quizcor.com/

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/benkyou-math-grade-3/id580342616?mt=8

 

Currently free!

[Hunter]

I totally forgot about this one, Hunter!

Benkyou math apps for grades 1-3, supposedly Japanese style (I think, just for drill)

http://math.quizcor.com/

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/benkyou-math-grade-3/id580342616?mt=8

 

Currently free!

Thanks!

[JenninMN]

I like the look of Advantage Math by Creative Teaching Press.  It reminds me of MCP Mathematics.  I think most math workbooks are labeled supplemental because the publishing companies expect that students are using them in additional to regular public school curriculum.  It doesn't mean they aren't complete. 

 

I like the Verbal Math books as well.  I have the fractions volume.  I should start adding that in. . .

[Hunter]

I like the look of Advantage Math by Creative Teaching Press. It reminds me of MCP Mathematics. I think most math workbooks are labeled supplemental because the publishing companies expect that students are using them in additional to regular public school curriculum. It doesn't mean they aren't complete.

 

I like the Verbal Math books as well. I have the fractions volume. I should start adding that in. . .

Thanks! I didn't know about these.

[JenninMN]

Spectrum Math is available in ebook form I believe.

 

[Hunter]

Thanks! They are only $6.99 at Currclick and Carson Delosa.