Winter Promise and Tapestry of Grace?

[athomemom]

How do these compare? Are they similar at all? There is so much info on their websites that it makes my head spin! :tongue_smilie:

 

I like open and go with a Christian emphasis....

[luvnlattes]

They are not similar at all. I used WP for 2 years before switching to TOG. We're in our second year of that.

 

WP is open and go. Every day is scheduled out for you. I did not need to do much teacher planning for WP.

 

TOG gives a list of things that *can* be completed for the week. You don't have to do everything and you probably won't want to. You choose what will be completed and when. Take history for example; you are given the pages to read for the week. You decide how many days you want to spread the reading over. You will need some planning time to determine this. If you have older students, TOG encourages you to allow them to determine how they'll complete their work, with the help of mom. The same is true for literature, church history, fine arts, etc.

 

Also, at the dialectic and rhetoric levels, you are given discussion questions and answers to cover with your students. This is where I need much more planning time because I have to be prepared to lead the discussion. We used WP during the grammar stage so I don't know if they offer anything like this for their jr. and sr. high levels.

Edited November 29, 2011 by luvnlattes

[lexi]

I have not used Winter Promise but it seems a lot like Sonlight. It would be fairly open and go as it is planned out for you.

 

We use TOG. Love it! But it does take planning to decide what portion of that week's lessons and activities you will do. This is our first year with TOG and I blog about it here. There are a couple other TOG bloggers that I've seen as well. Here, here, and here. The blogs might help you get a better feel for TOG since the website can be very overwhelming.

 

Decisions, decisions.....:D

[TXMary2]

They are not similar. I used 2 of WP programs and will never use them again. Between all the tweaking I needed to do and the poor customer service I can't reccommend them.

 

I use TOG and I love it. TOG isn't open and go, you will need to make book choices and a schedule.

[lexi]

They are not similar. I used 2 of WP programs and will never use them again. Between all the tweaking I needed to do and the poor customer service I can't reccommend them.

 

I use TOG and I love it. TOG isn't open and go, you will need to make book choices and a schedule.

 

 

I listed your blog : )

[athomemom]

I have not used Winter Promise but it seems a lot like Sonlight. It would be fairly open and go as it is planned out for you.

 

We use TOG. Love it! But it does take planning to decide what portion of that week's lessons and activities you will do. This is our first year with TOG and I blog about it here. There are a couple other TOG bloggers that I've seen as well. Here, here, and here. The blogs might help you get a better feel for TOG since the website can be very overwhelming.

 

Decisions, decisions.....:D

 

Thanks for the links. I will check them out! I am not a planner. Thus my fear...

[JadeOrchidSong]

I have not used Winter Promise but it seems a lot like Sonlight. It would be fairly open and go as it is planned out for you.

 

We use TOG. Love it! But it does take planning to decide what portion of that week's lessons and activities you will do. This is our first year with TOG and I blog about it here. There are a couple other TOG bloggers that I've seen as well. Here, here, and here. The blogs might help you get a better feel for TOG since the website can be very overwhelming.

 

Decisions, decisions.....:D

I plan to use TOG in a year and a half. Thanks for the links!

[edelweiss]

we use WP and enjoy it. It is fairly open-and-go. I've looked at other history programs recently, but doubt that we'll switch. I suspect that they will be a lot more work-intensive (for me), and that we won't enjoy it. If it ain't broke... ;)

[athomemom]

we use WP and enjoy it. It is fairly open-and-go. I've looked at other history programs recently, but doubt that we'll switch. I suspect that they will be a lot more work-intensive (for me), and that we won't enjoy it. If it ain't broke... ;)

 

Do you only use the history portions of WP or do you also use science, etc?

[Mommy22alyns]

Have you looked into My Father's World? It's open and go and Christian.

[athomemom]

Have you looked into My Father's World? It's open and go and Christian.

 

I currently use MFW. I am looking for next year (8th) and up. I am not sure I want to continue with MFW especially for high school. I know I want a lit based program though. I love MFW, I truly do. However, I need to explore my options.

[lexi]

Heart of Dakota is Christian too. I see tons of positive comments about that and MFW.

 

I know I would tweak a curriculum like that too much. Therefore I'd rather just start from "scratch" than redo something else :).

 

But I know the 2 I mentioned are widely used and many people enjoy them.

[Mommy22alyns]

I currently use MFW. I am looking for next year (8th) and up. I am not sure I want to continue with MFW especially for high school. I know I want a lit based program though. I love MFW, I truly do. However, I need to explore my options.

 

 

Got it. :)

[siloam]

I currently use MFW. I am looking for next year (8th) and up. I am not sure I want to continue with MFW especially for high school. I know I want a lit based program though. I love MFW, I truly do. However, I need to explore my options.

TOG can be fairly open and go IF you use their main choice of books, and IF you are fine with a weekly schedule. Those who do use it as open and to have a schedule similar to this:

 

Monday: History and Bible reading

Tuesday: Literature and other reading (if you are doing philosophy/art/or government)

Wednesday: Mapping and history/Bible discussion

Thursday: Literature and other discussion

Friday: Writing

 

That is assuming you aren't doing activities, you will have to pick and choose from those either way.

 

I love TOG but don't love their spine choices and prefer a daily schedules, so in the end I do a lot of foot work to make it work.

 

WP is a daily schedule, pulling a little from each topic each day. They do have long term customer service issues and such (late deliveries, book substitutions, typos and such). If you love WP you can get over these issues, you just learn to order early. They have the best of intentions, IMO, but not the best of practical business skills. They are still schooling their own large family while trying to write new programs and run the business. That is a lot to take on and it shows now and then.

 

BTW if you like the spine of WP, Mystery of History (MOH), the publisher of MOH has put together a full daily schedule program to go with it called Illuminations. It might or might not be what you are interested in. Google Bright Ideas Press if you are interested.

 

Also keep in mind work load. I have a friend who has used MFW, SL and WP and she says the MFW schedule is the lightest, then WP then SL. I have used SL, TOG, WP. Between those WP has the lightest reading schedule, but the crafts can make it as heavy as SL. TOG also has a lighter reading schedule and can make up for it with activities for the younger years. At the high school level WP would be the lightest, then SL then TOG. You can, with TOG, keep a child in a lower level to lighten the work load because at the Rhetoric level if you do something like 90% it is considered AP. Keeping a 9th or even 10th grade child in Dialect is...well is probably what I will do. I only have one child that is a read-a-holic that can keep up with the TOG schedule without pushing. I don't know how heavy the Illuminations schedule is because I haven't used it. I will say I have been very please with how the mind behind it, Maggie Hogan of Bright Ideas Press, does a good job of finding a balance...she is amazingly able to target meaningful activities/work without doing too much and not having a lot of busy work, IMO. My guess is that it would be about the same workload as MFW. To do it over again I would probably do Illuminations just because it meets my bare minimum and will get done. Right now I own all this TOG but other than using it for reading assignments and my oldest doing some of the evaluations work I just haven't found time for the discussions. :001_huh:

 

Heather

[edelweiss]

Do you only use the history portions of WP or do you also use science, etc?

 

We use a different program for science. Actually, we are using a different program for our main science program, but we are using one of the WP science curriculum choices for an additional elective. We are currently doing Equine Science for my equestrienne. ;)

 

We did use Animals and their Worlds a few years ago as well.

[athomemom]

I have never heard anyone say that any program was heavier than SL. Wow! I am still checking out TOG. Is TOG really hands on? We aren't really into crafts, etc. I would like to do somethings, but my boys aren't really interested.

 

I really like the way WP looks. But you all have me scared...:tongue_smilie:

[athomemom]

Oh, and I should add that one of the spines that MFW uses is SOTW. My boys love it! We haven't finished the SOTW cycle. We will use SOTW next year in MFW 1850 to modern. (unless we decide to go with another program) Does TOG, WP, etc use SOTW or is there an easy way to add it in?

[luvnlattes]

Oh, and I should add that one of the spines that MFW uses is SOTW. My boys love it! We haven't finished the SOTW cycle. We will use SOTW next year in MFW 1850 to modern. (unless we decide to go with another program) Does TOG, WP, etc use SOTW or is there an easy way to add it in?

 

I only know about TOG Years 1 & 2. Both of those use SOTW as an alternate spine for core history in the upper grammar level.

[siloam]

I have never heard anyone say that any program was heavier than SL. Wow! I am still checking out TOG. Is TOG really hands on? We aren't really into crafts, etc. I would like to do somethings, but my boys aren't really interested.

 

I really like the way WP looks. But you all have me scared...:tongue_smilie:

TOG is a banquet. You can't do everything you have to pick and choose. Yes there are activities....everything from crafts to sewing your own costumes to presentations. You don't have to do them...you simply can't get everything they list in a week done in a week. You're not meant to.

 

WP at the lower levels has a lot of paper crafts. At the higher level...I think there were both crafts and other activities...I own this level of guides but haven't used them...so I am trying to remember from just looking them over (and am too lazy at the moment to go pull it off the shelf).

 

At the LG, UG and D levels it is not necessarily more than SL...just different. More mapping, more academic books (usborne), more picture books, less RA's...not sure how the literature/readers compare....my gut feeling is about the same. TOG starts discussions at the D level and often the suggested time is an hour. That sort of thing is absent in SL. By R level you are reading original documents, texts for history, government, philosophy, Bible, fine arts history and literature as well as doing often hour discussions on each.

 

Picking up my year 1 (considered the lightest year, 2 is the heaviest and 3 and 4 are in between) and flopping it open to a week, 32 Imperial Rome, the schedule includes:

 

History:

These Were the Romans about 53 pages of reading.

Holman Bible Atlas about 22 pages of reading.

Foxe's Book of Martyrs 10 pages of reading

Warfare in the Classical World 20 pages

 

Comprehension questions and thinking questions. TOG suggests you allow 2 hour for history discussion. There are only 6 questions total but they have sub points, so there are about 20 different points to discuss that I see...and government may be included in that time as I don't see where it has a separate time listed.

 

Government:

Cicero's Republic book IV (no pages listed it is an original document and you read the whole thing) and cover thinking questions.

 

Answer 8 questions.

 

Geography:

 

Finish painting and labeling salt map from last week and label. Answer questions.

 

Literature:

Words of Delight about 50 pages

 

Fill in 2 1/2 page outline of book.

 

Fine Arts:

 

Art of the Ancient Mediterranean World chapter 22

 

Worldview:

 

Matthew 26-28

What the Bible is All About 2 pages

Church History in Plain Language Chapter 1

Pageant of Philosophy: Epictetus the Stoic

 

Answer questions...Bible has 12 questions and 31 different points. Church History has 7 questions. Philosophy discuss 9 different points.

 

Writing depends on what level you are in. level 9 is writing a speech, 10 is writing a Biography, level 11 is a Multi-Media Presentation, level 12 is working on Senior Thesis.

 

That totally leaves of the activities. Also you don't HAVE to do all of this, you can pick and choose but it shows you how TOG can be more than SL at the D and R levels (above is R). The two lower levels I would say that SL is heavier...but if you tried to do it all TOG would still be heavier.

 

Heather

[siloam]

I only know about TOG Years 1 & 2. Both of those use SOTW as an alternate spine for core history in the upper grammar level.

 

WP's Hideaways in History used all 4 SOTW books (just parts of each), but it looks like they changed it. Which is good because at a couple of chapters a day I thought that made it more of a 2nd-5th grade program vs the k-1st the placed it as.

 

Heather

[athomemom]

TOG is a banquet. You can't do everything you have to pick and choose. Yes there are activities....everything from crafts to sewing your own costumes to presentations. You don't have to do them...you simply can't get everything they list in a week done in a week. You're not meant to.

 

WP at the lower levels has a lot of paper crafts. At the higher level...I think there were both crafts and other activities...I own this level of guides but haven't used them...so I am trying to remember from just looking them over (and am too lazy at the moment to go pull it off the shelf).

 

At the LG, UG and D levels it is not necessarily more than SL...just different. More mapping, more academic books (usborne), more picture books, less RA's...not sure how the literature/readers compare....my gut feeling is about the same. TOG starts discussions at the D level and often the suggested time is an hour. That sort of thing is absent in SL. By R level you are reading original documents, texts for history, government, philosophy, Bible, fine arts history and literature as well as doing often hour discussions on each.

 

Picking up my year 1 (considered the lightest year, 2 is the heaviest and 3 and 4 are in between) and flopping it open to a week, 32 Imperial Rome, the schedule includes:

 

History:

These Were the Romans about 53 pages of reading.

Holman Bible Atlas about 22 pages of reading.

Foxe's Book of Martyrs 10 pages of reading

Warfare in the Classical World 20 pages

 

Comprehension questions and thinking questions. TOG suggests you allow 2 hour for history discussion. There are only 6 questions total but they have sub points, so there are about 20 different points to discuss that I see...and government may be included in that time as I don't see where it has a separate time listed.

 

Government:

Cicero's Republic book IV (no pages listed it is an original document and you read the whole thing) and cover thinking questions.

 

Answer 8 questions.

 

Geography:

 

Finish painting and labeling salt map from last week and label. Answer questions.

 

Literature:

Words of Delight about 50 pages

 

Fill in 2 1/2 page outline of book.

 

Fine Arts:

 

Art of the Ancient Mediterranean World chapter 22

 

Worldview:

 

Matthew 26-28

What the Bible is All About 2 pages

Church History in Plain Language Chapter 1

Pageant of Philosophy: Epictetus the Stoic

 

Answer questions...Bible has 12 questions and 31 different points. Church History has 7 questions. Philosophy discuss 9 different points.

 

Writing depends on what level you are in. level 9 is writing a speech, 10 is writing a Biography, level 11 is a Multi-Media Presentation, level 12 is working on Senior Thesis.

 

That totally leaves of the activities. Also you don't HAVE to do all of this, you can pick and choose but it shows you how TOG can be more than SL at the D and R levels (above is R). The two lower levels I would say that SL is heavier...but if you tried to do it all TOG would still be heavier.

 

Heather

 

Tell me about the Bible and art. I love that this is all inclusive. How wonderful.

[siloam]

Tell me about the Bible and art. I love that this is all inclusive. How wonderful.

Year 1 is the only year with a full Bible program, because it covers Biblical history. Year 2 and beyond would be better called church history and worldview. They also cover missionaries under that topic, and they don't shy away from other religions as they come up.

 

The fine arts cover music, art, and may other areas that now escape my memory. Just to be clear it isn't an art program, it is the history of art, music and poetry. The people who changed the direction of their fields sort of thing.

 

With everything in TOG they discuss how each "thread" (worldview is one thread, fine arts another) had its place in how people of that time thought and thus behaved. It is one of the things I love most about TOG.

 

Heather

[athomemom]

Heather,

 

Did you use the Bible portion of SL? It isn't essential that I have a Bible curriculum, but I do like things planned out or at least laid out for me. I am trying to get a feel for each of these programs. It's just so hard. They all seem good to be honest. :001_smile:

[DawnM]

I have tried all 3 programs, WP, TOG, and SL. I should have just stayed with SL. WP about drove me batty with all the typos and errors in the user guide and in the student workbooks! It also dove me crazy to find that only half of the info was actually given and then there were 7 references to look things up on web pages for the rest. I don't want to look it up, that is why I bought the stinkin' program!

 

Ok, rant over....our experience with WP was not all that positive. Between their stupid resale policy, their overpriced materials, and their almost daily grammar, spelling and typo errors I found it quite poorly designed.

 

Ok, I guess rant wasn't quite over. :lol:

 

TOG: Excellently written and I wanted so much for my kids to like it and for us to be able to do the 4 year looping, etc..... but it didn't work for us.

 

So, we went back to SL. I can't say it is perfect, but it works for us.

 

The nice thing about all 3 choices is that you can print out about 3 weeks worth for free and really look at it first.

 

WP and TOG are indeed vastly different.

 

Dawn

[kolamum]

We've used WP this school year & will be moving to SL next. We considered TOG.

 

TOG really scared me because I had a lot of people say it wasn't open and go and I'd have to do a lot of planning. At this stage in our homeschool I needed open and go. I was also concerned by it's digital format. I can't do digital and needed it in print.

 

WP is open and go. It is suppose to be a Christian programme, but if you don't buy the Bible "go along" I don't see one bit of "Christian" in it.. All though that may depend upon core. We use AA-1 and enjoyed it. The HSITW packs have christian references, but the rest of what WP called for didn't. I'm not really sold on their Christian Character book either, I felt it was very weak for my kids. However, we have really enjoyed the year and are on the home stretch. I had no issues with the customer service, but I only ordered WP Exclusives from them. Everything else I obtained from other sources. I am unhappy about their resale policy though.. I had no idea it existed when I first purchased.

 

SL is also open and go.. but that's about as much as I can tell you because while I have IG's I haven't used them with my family.

 

I will say that all of these places offer samples and you can download them. To get the better SL samples you need to get the ones they send you email links to. ;) WP Samples are right on their website. I can't remember about TOG.

 

What I did to make a choice when I did was downloaded the IG Samples for the year or historical time I was interested in. Then from there I compared what each company had to offer. I was really going to go with SL and my reason for going with WP was that I love HSITW and loved that it was integrated right into the programme. I'm choosing to move to SL next year because I like their book selection for the second half of US history more. I feel their Bible/Christian "stuff" is a bit more integrated. WP doesn't use HSITW for the second half of US history so I'm not missing out either. ;)

[edelweiss]

I have never heard anyone say that any program was heavier than SL. Wow! I am still checking out TOG. Is TOG really hands on? We aren't really into crafts, etc. I would like to do somethings, but my boys aren't really interested.

 

I really like the way WP looks. But you all have me scared...:tongue_smilie:

 

It seems like people who have tried WP either love it or hate it for the most part. I like it pretty well, but it really depends what you are looking for in a program. I have looked at the other programs for history, but they just don't seem like a good fit for us. I'm SO not interested in creating a lot of work for myself in a subject that I consider to be non-core, so that eliminates some of the choices for me. SL looks pretty open-and-go, but some of book choices have always seemed to be too mature/"harsh" for my sensitive kids. I was considering it again for next year, but they don't have a program geared toward Ancients (at least in the way I want it taught), so I've eliminated it again. So, it seems like we are likely to stick with Winterpromise again. :tongue_smilie:

 

I haven't had customer service issues, but I only buy the exclusives. I know that some people don't like WP's resale policy, but I usually toss our curriculum in the recycling bin when I'm done with it, so that doesn't concern me. If you typically resell your curriculum, it might.

[Candid]

I have never heard anyone say that any program was heavier than SL. Wow! I am still checking out TOG. Is TOG really hands on? We aren't really into crafts, etc. I would like to do somethings, but my boys aren't really interested.

 

 

Sonlight gets lighter in high school. I used them up until 5th grade when I became very disappointed that their questions incoroporated almost no thinking questions in to books my oldest was reading on his own in their program. Instead these questions were just remember the facts sort of questions.

 

In high school they use too many historical fiction books and not enough real lit in my opinion. I am less able to judge their history books, but many of Tapestry's history books are university press publications which strikes me as being at a high level.

 

On crafts, Tapestry does provide suggestions and books that include crafty projects. It is up to you to decide what you want to do. Some families do a lot, some just a little. We've gotten to almost none, although this year we are doing a small 3 family coop and my younger son does a craft with them each week. (Which, thankfully, I don't have to do anything.)

 

Picking up my year 1 (considered the lightest year, 2 is the heaviest and 3 and 4 are in between) and flopping it open to a week, 32 Imperial Rome, the schedule includes:

 

 

I agree with almost everything Heather said until I got to this. I think Year 4 is easier than Year 1, but I rest mostly on lit selections for my opinion on this. Ancient lit has a lot of long works and it is all in verse which I consider more difficult to digest. Lit in Year 4 is mostly short, almost all prose, and I think this is the only place in the lit program where Tapestry flinched on their choices.

 

My plan is to sub out some of their choices and plug in some more difficult works for my oldest who will be in his senior year (for instance Fahrenheit 451 will be replaced by 1984). On the other hand, I am pleased that my youngest, and weaker reader, will arrive at his freshmen year for Year 4 and I will leave those weaker works in for him.

 

This brings me to an important point Heather has already hit, Tapestry is much more amenable to changing components than other programs (or at least it is for me).

[DawnM]

HA! That could be.

 

We went back to SL and as far as I know, we will be using it through high school. I will take a closer look when we get there. My oldest is technically high school next year, but I think we will be holding him back into 8th grade next year. But we are only doing Core 5 right now as he is delayed academically anyway, so it suits us.

 

One of the reasons I tried WP is because I was told WP was SL "lite" and SL was too much reading for my reading LD child. However, I have found that tweaking SL is easier and skipping books he may struggle with is easier than trying to deal with a curriculum that looks cute but isn't "me."

 

SL is MY style of learning so it is my style of teaching.

 

I was looking for an excuse to get a Kindle for next year and putting all of Core 6's books on it, but alas, not many of the books are available on Kindle! :tongue_smilie:

 

Dawn

 

I have used WP and SL and I agree with Dawn (in fact Im using her WP, I think!) with the caveat that I will continue using WP and NOT go back to SL at this point.

 

I own SL cores 1-6 (owned? sold the IGs. Dont need them). So I can incorporate easily. I cant say I find WP to be open and go bc its not anywhere near as well done as SL.

 

I was tweaking everything anyway.

 

I would expect Id like TOG except it confuses the heck out of me and I want ds to be self directed- WP's Royals is working great for him in gr 8. I know with ToG Id have to be better at planning. He is doing R&R on his own as open and go and I do not interfere at all.

 

Still if he did stay home for High school it would be worth a look I suppose.

[athomemom]

I am looking at core H at the moment. I cannot figure out which books are read alouds and which are readers? I am waiting for my catalog to arrive and I am looking online. Help, please!

[siloam]

TOG really scared me because I had a lot of people say it wasn't open and go and I'd have to do a lot of planning. At this stage in our homeschool I needed open and go. I was also concerned by it's digital format. I can't do digital and needed it in print.

 

They are offering print again, just for the information.

 

WP is open and go. It is suppose to be a Christian programme, but if you don't buy the Bible "go along" I don't see one bit of "Christian" in it.. All though that may depend upon core. We use AA-1 and enjoyed it. The HSITW packs have christian references, but the rest of what WP called for didn't. I'm not really sold on their Christian Character book either, I felt it was very weak for my kids. However, we have really enjoyed the year and are on the home stretch. I had no issues with the customer service, but I only ordered WP Exclusives from them. Everything else I obtained from other sources. I am unhappy about their resale policy though.. I had no idea it existed when I first purchased.

 

They have Christian texts in the Quest for the Ancient World, Quest for the Middle Ages (both use Mystery of History) and several of the science programs use the God's Design series books as spine texts. But several other programs have limited to no Christian perspective, if you remove the Bible portion.

 

What I did to make a choice when I did was downloaded the IG Samples for the year or historical time I was interested in. Then from there I compared what each company had to offer. I was really going to go with SL and my reason for going with WP was that I love HSITW and loved that it was integrated right into the programme. I'm choosing to move to SL next year because I like their book selection for the second half of US history more. I feel their Bible/Christian "stuff" is a bit more integrated. WP doesn't use HSITW for the second half of US history so I'm not missing out either. ;)

With SL most of the time the Bible is not integrated. They include missionary stories in every level, because they have a heart for missions, but these don't always go with the time period being studied. They do try to when they can, but they don't force it.

 

I am trying to remember their vision for Bible...if I remember right it was to do a Gospel every year and cover the whole Bible is something like 5 years so you get in at least two rounds.

 

They do also often have a devotional that relates more to the subject matter, like with Core 3 the American Indian Prayer Guide, but not every level ties in like that.

 

I loved SL while we used it and would have continued for myself, but it was too much for most my kids. They wanted more stuff to do and found the RA's too emotional. All but my oldest. I still buy SL books for her to read on her own. :D

 

Heather

[siloam]

I agree with almost everything Heather said until I got to this. I think Year 4 is easier than Year 1, but I rest mostly on lit selections for my opinion on this. Ancient lit has a lot of long works and it is all in verse which I consider more difficult to digest. Lit in Year 4 is mostly short, almost all prose, and I think this is the only place in the lit program where Tapestry flinched on their choices.

 

This brings me to an important point Heather has already hit, Tapestry is much more amenable to changing components than other programs (or at least it is for me).

This might be a difference between classic and redesign. When I came from year 4 classic to year 1 redesign if felt like the literature had taken a half a step back....or a full step.

 

In year 4 classic my 2nd dd had been doing LG lit, which included picture and chapter books. My oldest did UG level which was all chapter books and I picked and chose from D level for her. The D level had a lot of content, dealing with really heavy issues and so I couldn't have her in it continually. I did pull out James Harriot, CS Lewis, and Lucado type books. But some of those were...they were pushing her just enough they weren't that enjoyable for her (content wise not reading wise). I didn't do R level at all, so that might have been a different ball of wax.

 

Now in year 1 I have no problems with my 2nd dd in UG level, my oldest in D level and my 3rd dd in LG. In fact I find I am pulling books from the next level up to fill with occasionally. But in looking at the R level it is heavy. I am really careful what, if anything I pull from it. Mostly I go to alternates for my oldest and have her go back and read UG level when she runs out (serious reader, so it is hard to keep her in enough...in fact she is waiting now on me to find her another book...and has already read the UG text this week).

 

The last point is the reason why I stick with TOG. I have spines I know I like and want to use: Guerber, MOH and SOTW right now. The Usborne type spines TOG picks don't often click with us. WP worked here, but I was constantly searching for more material for my oldest....which is a lot of work. SL was enough for my oldest but too much for my younger three, so again I was modifying. I am not going to get away from having to do foot work with this crowd so might as well do TOG. :)

 

Heather

[siloam]

I am looking at core H at the moment. I cannot figure out which books are read alouds and which are readers? I am waiting for my catalog to arrive and I am looking online. Help, please!

Kim,

 

Try looking it up by subject. Then you can look up readers, then go to Core H. Separately you can look up RA's and go to core H.

 

When you look at the whole package they don't separate them out.

 

Heather

[DawnM]

Read alouds:

 

The Arrow Over the Door

Baanner in the Sky

Classic Poetry

The Endless Steppe

Escape Across the Wide Sea

God's Smuggler

A Heart Strangely Warmed

The Kidnapped Prince

Mary Jones

Number the Stars

Out of Many Waters

The Ravenmaster's Secret

Escape from the Tower

The Sherwood Ring

The Singing Tree

The Best Christmas Pageant Ever

Dr. Jenner

Great Expectations

 

All the rest are readers

 

I am looking at core H at the moment. I cannot figure out which books are read alouds and which are readers? I am waiting for my catalog to arrive and I am looking online. Help, please!

[athomemom]

Thanks ya'll. I am trying to see which book my library has and which ones I would possibly need duplicates of since I have two in 7th grade. :001_smile:

Edited December 1, 2011 by athomemom