Lucy in Australia Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 I have just had the fright of my life and I am still a bit :crying: My DS14 was getting ready to sit at the table. I turned my back to get something and heard a crash. He was lying on the floor, shaking and making a strange noise in his throat. It lasted about 5 seconds, then he said he was ok, just dazed. He maintains he took a piece of cucumber in his mouth that got lodge in his windpipe and he couldn't breathe and passed out. He thinks when he landed on the floor it got dislodged and the noise in his throat was him coughing it out. I have never heard or seen anything like it. Do I treat it as a choking incident or get his brain checked out? He also bit his tongue in the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unicorn. Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 How scary! How long was your back turned, because it would take more than a few seconds w/ no air before he passed out. I would get him checked. If that were my ds, his response would make me think it wasn't the first time it happened, and he didn't want me to know. :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catherine Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 I would consult his doctor. Probably, it was only a choking incident, but the tongue biting suggests it might have been a seizure, and if he had a partial seizure, it might have caused him to start to choke if something was already in his mouth. I think an MRI and EEG would be reasonable to do. Is he absolutely fine-feeling now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 Wow. Lack of oxygen could cause a seizure and vice versa. I'd get him checked out. Put him on the couch and call the ped. ETA: But if he was only out of your sight for less than a minute, I doubt he'd be oxygen deprived long enough without you noticing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marie in Oh Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 I choked on what I was drinking and passed out. It did not take very long. I was only out for about 20-30 seconds. Scared my dh to death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbeyej Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 Definitely have him checked out. You don't know if he had a seizure that caused the choking or choking that may have looked like a seizure or choking that may have triggered a seizure. Two of those three *need* follow-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie4b Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 I agree that I would get him checked out. However, to offer a bit of mental relief: shortly after ds got blood drawn at the doctor's, he passed out. It looked exactly like a seizure to me. The doctor said that it was normal to look like that. (He was shaking like a seizure.) Fortunately, he was still on the table (partially sitting up, but still on it) and didn't fall off. I was glad he wasn't standing or on a regular chair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 Definitely have him checked out. You don't know if he had a seizure that caused the choking or choking that may have looked like a seizure or choking that may have triggered a seizure. Two of those three *need* follow-up. yeah, i agree. kinda a chicken and egg thing. When DD's big seizure started on Friday, she made this strange gasping, choking noise. I thought she was going to vomit. If she had had anything in her mouth, she easily could have aspirated it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucy in Australia Posted November 10, 2010 Author Share Posted November 10, 2010 Thanks everyone. It's night-time here so we're about to go to bed. He's been fine since the incident - no confusion, etc.. I think I'll consult a doctor friend tomorrow anyway. I'm confident this has never happened before - he's pretty open with me about these kinds of things. I have a new and very real respect for you parents who deal with major health issues in your kids on an ongoing basis. Mothering sure ain't for sissies... :scared: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcconnellboys Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 Please let us know how things work out! Hope all is well.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 I hope it all turns out well for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedmom4 Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 I would definitely get your son to a doctor. You will have better peace of mind if you get to the bottom of whether or not your son had a seizure. Most of the time with a tonic clonic (grand mal) seizure your son wouldn't know if it has happened to him before. They lose consciousness and most don't remember what has happened. With a simple partial (focal) seizure your son would be completely conscious and know exactly what was happening. A complex partial can result in impaired consciousness. Many people seize during sleep so you wouldn't even know. Hopefully, your son just had a terrible choking incident but it's not something to take lightly. I hope I'm not scaring you but it's so important to get checked out sooner rather than later. God Bless, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegGuheert Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 Can choking cause what looks like an epileptic fit?While I do not know the answer to that, I will say that the first time DS6 had a febrile seizure, we thought he was choking. As has been stated, many things can trigger a seizure including fever, bright, flashing lights, etc. I imagine lack of oxygen from choking could also be a seizure trigger. Likely your son choked AND then had a seizure as a result. :grouphug: Praying that he is OK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheryl Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 I have just had the fright of my life and I am still a bit :crying: My DS14 was getting ready to sit at the table. I turned my back to get something and heard a crash. He was lying on the floor, shaking and making a strange noise in his throat. It lasted about 5 seconds, then he said he was ok, just dazed. He maintains he took a piece of cucumber in his mouth that got lodge in his windpipe and he couldn't breathe and passed out. He thinks when he landed on the floor it got dislodged and the noise in his throat was him coughing it out. I have never heard or seen anything like it. Do I treat it as a choking incident or get his brain checked out? He also bit his tongue in the process. I'm the Mom of a child with controlled epilepsy. There are different "forms" or kinds of epil. I'm having a hard time that choking sent him to the floor. But, it could happen. Still, you'll want to keep your eyes and ears open for any unusual happenings and yes, you should consult with a dr. If it happens again, don't delay and go to a pediatric neurol. Check out your ins. coverage. And, if you need a referral. HTH. Sheryl <>< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lailasmum Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 My son has reflex anoxic seizures on a regular basis and I know that there are a few kids who have these triggered by eating. They can be triggered by hurting yourself or touching strange textures or getting upset. Some kids have one and it never happens again some kids have lots like my son who has had roughly a 100 seizures/blackouts. The stars website is useful. Its a support group with case studies http://www.stars.org.uk/patient-info/conditions/ras there is a US website too but its not as well laid out and doesn't cover RAS as much http://www.stars-us.org/ My son has a mixture of blackouts and tonic clonic seizures. Its often mis diagnosed as epilepsy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 Lucy, How is your DS? Any updates? :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucy in Australia Posted November 15, 2010 Author Share Posted November 15, 2010 For anyone who was following our drama, it turned out to be a choking fit that caused him to pass out. He is fine (although I can't say the same for myself :001_huh:) Laurie4b, our doctor friend said exactly the same thing; she also said that choking can cause convulsions. The fact that he was only out for a few seconds makes it unlikely to be anything more serious. Thanks to everyone who asked about him :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN Mama Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 So glad to hear the update! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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