Heather in VA Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 My 8 year old writes pretty well structurally. She naturally avoids Dick and Jane type writing, varies sentence order, uses longer compound sentences and usually avoids run-ons. (Unlike Mom LOL). But when she describes things she uses words like extremely, very, nice - things that aren't very specific. When we make lists of adjectives and adverbs, she has great ideas but I'm having trouble getting her used to using them in her writing. She uses very descriptive verbs so I'm confused why adverbs and adjectives are such a struggle for her. She's getting tired of me constantly asking her to come up with better adjectives. She's starting to feel attacked but I don't know how else to improve this part of her writing. Ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs. Readsalot Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I told him if he used better vocabulary words I would spell them. I know I may get tomatoes throw at me for this. But as a kid I avoided better words because I could not spell them. Note - this had a wonderful results and now as an older writer he can spell more of the difficult words himself. Even I have to go to the dictionary at times to find the spelling of a word he wants. I have also found reading literature by G A Henty has helped my ds writing. Henty uses wonderful vocabulary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen in CO Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 A list of "banned" words and a list of adverbs and adjectives for her to choose from. Then she has a bank of words to use and to avoid. Once she gets comfortable with the new words, then she probably won't need the list anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather in VA Posted March 10, 2008 Author Share Posted March 10, 2008 I told him if he used better vocabulary words I would spell them. I know I may get tomatoes throw at me for this. But as a kid I avoided better words because I could not spell them. Note - this had a wonderful results and now as an older writer he can spell more of the difficult words himself. Even I have to go to the dictionary at times to find the spelling of a word he wants. I have also found reading literature by G A Henty has helped my ds writing. Henty uses wonderful vocabulary. No tomatoes from me. She spells well so I hadn't considered that but she also really hates to misspell something so she may be avoiding words to make sure she doesn't have a spelling issue. Thanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partyof5 Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I love the ideas already given, and to add to that, I would suggest a thesaurus so that their own heavily-used words can be made more interesting. I sometimes underline the words I'd like my 9 yo dd to improve and she enjoys the thesaurus. In fact, she has experimented with some really fun words and continues to use them now, so it can be a great vocabulary builder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather in VA Posted March 10, 2008 Author Share Posted March 10, 2008 Before she starts writing why not come up with a list of good words she might use (she can help you com up with the list) and then she can use the list while writing. You know - I think I'm going to need to do a better job at this. We make lists like this as part of our grammar and our writing work but I haven't ever tried to make a list right before she writes something so she'd have the topic in mind. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather in VA Posted March 10, 2008 Author Share Posted March 10, 2008 A list of "banned" words and a list of adverbs and adjectives for her to choose from. Then she has a bank of words to use and to avoid. Once she gets comfortable with the new words, then she probably won't need the list anymore. Ok - this is going to sound stupid, but is there a list of 'banned' words somewhere already? I'm not sure I trust myself to make a good one without some guidance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen in CO Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I would just start with the list of words she uses too often - nice, good, very. I would also read the list of adverbs and interesting adjectives to her before having her start an assignment to make sure she has and idea of what the words mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angela in ohio Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 We use IEW, so we use the list of banned words to combat this. We have several pages of banned words, with a list of alternatives. They add new words to the lists as they find them in their reading or spelling. The owrds are already spelled correctly right there for them, so they use them easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen in CO Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 We use IEW, so we use the list of banned words to combat this. We have several pages of banned words, with a list of alternatives. They add new words to the lists as they find them in their reading or spelling. The owrds are already spelled correctly right there for them, so they use them easily. Me too. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy2homeschool Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 We use IEW also and have learned a great deal from the program. The list of banned words that we avoid are: good, bad, pretty, ugly, nice, mean, interesting, say (said), go (went), come (came), see, look, and get (got). IEW gave us lists of words to substitute and then my boys add to this list. Also, IEW suggests adding an adverb to every paragraph and we have a list of adverbs as well. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beansprouts Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Ok - this is going to sound stupid, but is there a list of 'banned' words somewhere already? I'm not sure I trust myself to make a good one without some guidance. I am going to try this one with my own dd. Top of my list are words that mean "good" and words that mean "beautiful". I want her to paint a clearer picture and show me why something is "good" or "beautiful". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathie in VA Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Pictures speak louder then words! Draw a picture of what YOU think your dc has written about. They can draw a picture of why THEY were thinking when they wrote their paper. Make big notes of the differences. If you dc wants you to picture something the way they are thinking it then they will need to use just the right word to get that idea accross. This works also works well if you use all the kids, everyone draw what they imagine when hearing one story. Differences will always be there but the best set of adjectives, adverbs, nouns and verbs will force more similarities to appear in their pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pretty in Pink Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 my ds tends to get into a rut w/ his words too, i like the idea of a banned word list, may have to incorporate that into our lessons. my ds uses the 5 step writing process: planning, drafting, revising, proofreading, publishing. during the revising stage i usually provide him a checklist of things to do to his work. it includes things like: circle at least 5 words in your writing that could be more descriptive. use your thesaurus to help you choose other words to use instead. you could also incorporate the list of descriptive words into the planning stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angela in ohio Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Pictures speak louder then words!Draw a picture of what YOU think your dc has written about. They can draw a picture of why THEY were thinking when they wrote their paper. Make big notes of the differences. If you dc wants you to picture something the way they are thinking it then they will need to use just the right word to get that idea accross. This works also works well if you use all the kids, everyone draw what they imagine when hearing one story. Differences will always be there but the best set of adjectives, adverbs, nouns and verbs will force more similarities to appear in their pictures. This is a fantastic idea! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth in Central TX Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I agee! What a great idea! This approach will really work for my very visual son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Both Writing Strands and Understanding Writing encourage the use of more expressive, descriptive nouns and verbs rather than more use of adjectives and adverbs. One of the exercises in Understanding Writing is having children think of how many words they know for woman, or walk, or whatever. Stronger nouns and verbs are much better than lots of adjectives and adverbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathie in VA Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 My dd is taking a co-op writing class for 7th graders. She said that her class was told the use of many adverbs and adjectives signifies weak verbs and nouns. Why say that he 'swiftly ran' when you could say that he 'sprinted'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jail warden Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 My ds is about to start writing next year and this has given me great ideas! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather in VA Posted March 11, 2008 Author Share Posted March 11, 2008 Pictures speak louder then words!Draw a picture of what YOU think your dc has written about. They can draw a picture of why THEY were thinking when they wrote their paper. Make big notes of the differences. If you dc wants you to picture something the way they are thinking it then they will need to use just the right word to get that idea accross. This works also works well if you use all the kids, everyone draw what they imagine when hearing one story. Differences will always be there but the best set of adjectives, adverbs, nouns and verbs will force more similarities to appear in their pictures. Wow!!! This is a great idea. THANKS!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 My dd is taking a co-op writing class for 7th graders. She said that her class was told the use of many adverbs and adjectives signifies weak verbs and nouns. Why say that he 'swiftly ran' when you could say that he 'sprinted'?/quote] Exactly. How much more *interesting* is something that uses stronger nouns and verbs? When I'm reviewing a product that teaches writing, I want to see samples of student works. If they're full of adjectives and adverbs, that product goes on my not-to-recommend list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angela in ohio Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 My dd is taking a co-op writing class for 7th graders. She said that her class was told the use of many adverbs and adjectives signifies weak verbs and nouns. Why say that he 'swiftly ran' when you could say that he 'sprinted'? We do this with IEW, too. One of the first things learned is to throw out plain verbs and pick stronger ones, instead. There are plenty of verbs banned, too (said, went, etc, etc.) This is an excellent point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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