It says in one article that it was 15 yards, which is more like 45 feet. Since the water was dark, and really, even if it were not dark and he were simply submerged and they were trying to get to him, it would have been too far for them to reach him in a reasonable amount of time before he would have drowned.

Our local public schools give two credits a year for it. I would maybe give one. But clearly, even two is ok.

I have been thinking about that too. It just makes me cry. It is so horrifying.

If alligators are anything like bears, now that it's killed a human, it will thirst for humans. They need to remove it from the population.

I feel like Disney dropped the ball here. They made that beach how it was to be appealing to families. They know there are alligators in the water. They didn't want to scare off business, so they didn't mention the alligators. Now a little boy is dead from a horrible painful death. Disney knows they have many people there from places with no alligators.

For the last 5-6 weeks, someone has been sick in our house. I am exhausted and cannot get anything done. Baby woke up with fever at one am. We had plans for today but I am so exhausted that I would rather cry. I keep telling myself that illnesses run in clusters like this and soon we will all be healthy for a long time. But sheesh!! When??? Baby has had an icky nose for a while so I figure it has become an ear infection now. I took him to the doctor previously for this. The fever is new. But since early May, we have had one viral thing after another. Maybe this is just a vent post. But this long, hard, sick, sucky year just won't seem to stop.

Have you lost weight? I have gained weight and gotten shorter. I figure the pressure of the weight pulls me down. I wonder if I lost weight if I would regain that height.

Yes, and he was wading where it was just a couple inches deep. I would have thought that would be safe! I would not have taken that to be swimming.

Especially since they were from NE. Depending on which side of the state they were from, it was either 7:30 or 8:30 back at home. And they were on vacation.

My oldest was not DX'd until 6.5 yrs old. But he had been in speech since he was a toddler. So yeah, it can be missed. But not like there is a medication where an early DX means treatment early can cure it. You work on what is going on now and you cannot work on anything else anyway, with or without the label.

Any updates?

I like BJU. And it's broken down by lesson, 160 lessons.

I never do park days. I have driven by and the group was huge. I have heard from other parents that they get wild too. I actually tried to go one time, and there was no adult supervision basically. The moms all took to picnic tables and did not glance at the kids at all. One child got seriously hurt one time. I would rather have a small group setting.

It is way healthier, socially, to be able to sustain one-on-one contact and relations than to only have large group situations. What I would do is say when at the group activity, participate in the group thing, but then do things at other times, like invite the other child over or meet them someplace, if she wants one-on-one.

Anyone try Kids Discover or have reviews? Thanks! Also, mention what ages you think it is good for. Thanks!

(((hugs)))

Yes, I think you need to speak to her. Sounds like it is fine to send gifts then. But if the mom does not want to reconcile, it might be sending the wrong message to continue. It is hard to explain what I mean via a message board. BUT, if the adults are all telling the boy that this is ok, and your boy this is ok, let's sneak around to get gifts to each other, but not ever see each other, and no one ever stands up to NPD, then it is sending the wrong message to the kids. Its not the gift that counts, its the relationship. Gifts alone do not make a relationship. The mom does not need the dad's permission.

I am curious though, do you know this child? I mean, you seem to indicate that you have not seen the child in a long time. You seem to be on no contact from the child due to the mother not standing up to the father. If so, why is it so important to maintain this contact? I get thinking it is "for the child" but is it really, when the child is being torn between doing what his parents expect and receiving gifts? I mean, if the only relationship you have with the child is sending gifts, then what is the purpose? That is sort of like buying his affections if he has no relationship with you beyond the gifts. I am not saying that is your intent, but that basically is it. If I am reading this correct, there is no relationship with the child beyond sending gifts. The child would not recognize you, there is no emotional relationship. There is a hope that by purchasing gifts and sending them, the child will like you, based on the gifts. See what I am trying to say? I know it is not your intent, but, it is what is happening. I would let it go. Stop sending gifts. Not because the dad says so, but because this is a child and no one is making any effort for him to see you. You simply do not have a relationship with him. Of course, this is only saying IF the mom is not bothering. You said you had not seen him in so long, and if the mom does not want to remedy it, then you should move on.

At this point, I think we should just all take a "conference" away from the siblings who won't stop fighting. LOL

I do not use the TM with BJU English. I did not feel it brought anything to the program. I do the front page with him, and then he does the backside by himself. I go over the writing lessons with him.

I loved BJU English through 6th grade. I could not stand it at 7th. My plan in the future is to do BJU English through 6th and then switch. EIW is on my list. I just do not like video courses and you have to use the video with EIW.

He has no legal right to control your relationship with his adult ex. And his adult ex, I assume, has the right to do what she wants. Ignore him. Put him on block.

He does not like hands on maybe? That is a good thought. The outsourced science class last year was a wash, but there were a lot of factors that went in to that from the drive, to my being gone, to it being mostly hands on. Maybe he does not like hands on? Interesting idea..and it might be correct! He has never been one to like hands on. He has been reading since before he was 3 yrs old and prefers that type of learning. I will have to investigate this. (I will try some hands on things with him that should be enjoyable and see if he hates it).

The outsourced program he hated involved a long drive. This other one is close by. He flips out over the drives and then cannot focus once there. We even tried a social skills class at a therapy center specifically for ASD and could not continue because he could not function or focus after the drive.

He loves the history/lit class. He doesn't have friends there, but everyone is nice to him. It has been great for him. If money were no object, there is no way I would entertain dropping that class. About the science, I have no experience with it and do not know anyone who goes to this person. I must have known someone at some time though, or I would not have known about her. I do recall someone told me about her at some point. I just was thinking that perhaps I need to steer him toward science, since with the ASD, he is not likely to succeed in the non-Stem field. The person he takes history/etc with, I think this upcoming year will be her last year. So I could just finish this out and then after that, really focus on the science. But this other lady is teaching the science I would really want for next year, which is physical science. I am leaning toward just continuing with what we are doing now and then after this next year, focusing big time on science. He will only be done with 9th grade and already have 3 social studies type credits so we will have plenty of time to not do social studies for a year basically. If he is anything like me, in the way I learn, I need to focus on one thing at a time. I do not like going several different directions at once.