Too many edpos without warnings! :willy_nilly:

This. I wanted to take 9 hours my first semester, but because of scholarship I had to take 15 (well, 30 in one year, but they wouldn't pay for summer classes). I was concerned about a 1 hour class, but I didn't want to go up all the way to 18 hours to play it safe because 6 classes seemed enough to try to juggle at once. I ended up dropping two 1 hour classes (the one I was concerned about and a 1 hour lab class that took 20 hours/week) and a 3 hour class because the grad student teaching the 3 hour class was just terrible, putting me way below the necessary hours. Then, in Spring I took 19 hours, which I did manage to pull off, but that still left me behind, requiring me to pay out of pocket for a summer class. It's awful to be behind the curve, trying to catch up. I did pass the summer class too, despite getting ill but then I just felt completely burned out in the Fall, and disillusioned with everything, and ended up dropping all but two classes, one of which I ended up ignoring at some point as well, so I passed only one class. Then, of course, I was in an even deeper hole for the coming Spring, and I ended up flunking everything by simply not attending after the first couple of weeks. So, I did lose that scholarship. Now, for full disclosure, I probably shouldn't have lost it, since I should've been able to keep it if I'd managed to deal with the paperwork needed for a medical or other withdrawal (I qualified for two different kinds), but I couldn't, so, I don't know. I still don't have a degree. In retrospect, I wish I'd just started college with 9 hours instead of trying to deal with that scholarship - that free money wasn't free, far from it. Obviously, I was in a different situation than most people starting college (had only gotten to the country 8 months earlier to get married to my spouse, who was giving antipsychotics during my first Spring semester (the 19 hour one) for an acute bipolar mixed state, after which I got diagnosed with an anxiety disorder and depression and got meds for that, etc). So, there was a lot more going on than for most people... I just really hate the pressure that the scholarship added with the required hours and the GPA. So, I'm sure it's all rainbows and sunshine for plenty of people, but you're right, sometimes it's not, and when things start spiraling out of control, it can just add to the stress and make it so much worse.

What is he majoring in? I'd probably pick the one that would be remotely possible to spin as being useful to his future career (sometimes I can come up with some relevance even if it's pretty far-fetched). Other than that, definitely look at the syllabi and rate-my-prof and stuff like that. Maybe take it during summer at the CC or something so it's only like 4 weeks long. And triple-check that he doesn't need a lab sciene (unless he already has a lab science). I don't think I've ever seen a degree program that didn't require at least one lab science.

And libRary. My 7yo still struggles with that one sometimes.

Is this too soon to forget a math concept? It's never too soon to forget a math concept. :leaving: :nopity:

As if college is a hobby for a 43yo unemployed empty-nester without a college degree. :banghead: But anyway, good to know - like I said, I wasn't planning on waiting until the kids were in college, but this is an extra incentive to finish before they start college.

No, I meant if DW were to lose her job and we were to end up being a zero income family again, college savings for the kids would go to our living expenses before our families would help, or before we'd qualify for food stamps (because they don't allow you to have more than a piddly amount in savings before you qualify)... but anyway, that was before you reminded me that we should actually qualify for unemployment if that were to happen. I'm pretty sure that the only way our families might contribute to the kids' college would be by maybe letting the kids live with them at low cost, or by us inheriting some money. The latter is more of a possibility on one side, and the former more on the other, based on age and location. But cash assistance for college is not going to be forthcoming otherwise, I don't think.

I don't know, we're going through the course on Amazon's Signature Channel, but I don't think they have the guide book (also, I'm not 100% sure if it's the 2nd edition... I think it is). I have sometimes paused the video to discuss some things, for example, last time, when it came to research and they mentioned reading abstracts etc, we went to PubMed and looked at an article there.

That reminds me of an audiobook we just finished listening to: "Dr. Elias Mako has devoted his life to New York City education and is an inspiration to every single one of us." From: The Hypnotists, by Gordon Korman. It's a good book, and if you've read it, you should get why I'm putting that quote there.

It's harder to drop out if you're a minor though, with parents monitoring your homework, and making sure you walk into your classroom and don't leave until the lecture is over, etc... :leaving: (I obviously think coercing your kid to that degree is a bad idea)

Also, not being picky, and being able to make connections between how the things you learned in college would be useful in the job you're applying to, even if the job doesn't scream "this is an obvious job for an x major".

Yeah, see, I wouldn't go that far. For one, I don't think the career prospects of someone with a math bachelor's degree are that minimal, though a lot of the jobs would be quite different than the job of a math professor, so, I'd discuss whether the kid would be interested in other jobs like that if math professor were to not happen. Likewise, I'd explore something like public policy or a military academy with the kid who's interested in history, war, and governance and the like. Based on everything in this thread, I'm kind of skeptical if the girl really decided she was more interested in math and science or if she just got the message that history is just a hobby.

Or, the other way around, I'm sure that there are engineering or w/e grads who are unemployed or making minimum wage. There are just no guarantees. Being bright, motivated, and having the ability to communicate and present yourself well are probably going to be great assets in landing a job that pays decently. IF I were to have either of my kids attend college at 14, I would be involved in what classes they pick, for various reasons. Odds are I'd be involved if they were 18 as well, just because I've been to college and know some things they might not. Which doesn't mean I'd micromanage their choices, but I'd definitely want to discuss the pros/cons with a 14yo, and quite probably with an 18yo. I don't think I'd go to the level of calling what they're doing a "co-chosen" major. Of course, my kids aren't that old yet, so all of this is hypothetical, but I'm hoping to raise my kids to become independent adults, not my puppets.

I have not read the book, but a) there are people with history degrees who can support themselves financially (for one, there are jobs that basically just ask that the applicant has a college degree, any college degree), and b) if you want to become a history professor, wouldn't a history degree be the most logical choice before applying to grad school for a history PhD? Wouldn't other degrees be more likely to hinder their ability to move forward in post-graduate work? Basically, I think this is silliness. I wouldn't recommend a history degree to people who simply want w/e degree pays the most and don't have any particular interests, and it'd probably be best to combine it with at least some sort of minor that's more marketable, but still, it's not like all people who have history BS's are unemployed or making minimum wage.

I think both schools had physics as a 2 part sequence, but one had optics(?) in phys 1 but the other had it in phys 2? It's been a long time, and I never ended up taking phys 2, but anyway, it doesn't hurt to ask the colleges involved so you can be sure. Because even if there's a transfer agreement, these things can be an issue if you only take part of a sequence at a school.

Aside from whether one is weak or not, iirc some unis have a slightly different sequence for what's in phys 1 and phys 2, so you can't always take 1 at one school and 2 at another (this is my memory from about a dozen years ago, when I took phys 1 at the CC during summer 1, and for medical reasons did not take phys 2 during summer 2 as intended).

No, it's throwing away money before asking family for help or before qualifying for things like food stamps. That said, I keep forgetting about unemployment benefits. Last time DW lost a job, she'd worked there for 11 months, but because of timing, not 3 full quarters, so she didn't qualify for unemployment. Now she's had the same job for 5 years, so, she should qualify for unemployment. Unemployment should pay for all our needs - we shouldn't have to supplement it with savings until it runs out, because we can cut out a lot of expenses (rent is cheap, we have no car payment, etc).

So do we. Rode ui. We also call red cabbage rode kool, but I think the Germans call it Blaukraut (blue cabbage - but I'm not 100% sure), but we call red grapes blauwe druiven (blue grapes). Red cabbage is of course purple, unless you're doing science experiments with it with acids and bases (or, if you just cook it with a bunch of vinegar or w/e). Varies by onion. Some are more red, some more purple, most in between. Well, I guess I was thinking of the outside color. Once you cut them open they're purple or sometimes magenta-ish. Hope that helps.

Wait, would that be Baby Corn?

(((Maize's baby)))

Thanks. Exactly. The only thing they might not be happy about is that I haven't signed it (other than just my typed name), because I have no clue where our scanner is nor how to hook it up. That said, at the very least this gives me something to point to to say that I tried, i.e. if they're going to give me a hard time over it, it should at least buy me time. The stupid part is that the quarterly reports are meaningless. I and everybody else I know just write down some random grades because we don't know what on earth to write down anyway (I mean, really, what should I write down for PE for 2nd grade? Who cares?). I hear HSLDA is working with NY to possibly get rid of the quarterly reports, but that they're offering to give them portfolios upon request with a 2-week notice? Which would not be an improvement, though at least it'd be more meaningful (I don't want to be randomly asked for portfolios though - once at the end of the year I could get on board with, but them sending me a letter at random times? No).

Like, it'd be funny, if it didn't interfere with my ability to function.

Btw, the above is why I have meds, but the meds can be addictive, as well as cause memory issues if taken long term, so I try to not take them every day (I have some other meds I do take every day, but they still leave me with stuff like the above).

I faxed it. I hope they're going to be happy with it. They still haven't returned my call. Right. It gets pretty ridiculous at times, like "I could mail it to them, BUT I don't know if they need to receive it by x date, or if it needs to be post-marked by x date, and I don't know where the post office is, but I can look that up, but I know that we have envelopes and stamps, but I don't know where, and I could ask the post office if I could buy one envelope and a stamp, but I don't know if they sell individual envelopes, and I don't want to buy more than one because we have envelopes, and besides, will they think I'm stupid, and again, I don't know if they need to receive it today or if it needs to be postmarked by today, and if I go to the post office I might as well go to city hall, except there's no parking at city hall, and I'm really too frazzled to deal with dragging the kids around, and why did DW decide to go to work today when she's been working from home the vast majority of other days recently, and this shouldn't be this hard, I just suck, and" anyway, this obviously can go on much, much, longer, but I'll spare y'all.

Basically, there are too many "if-thens", which is what causes me to freeze.