Ouch. It's free here (besides a $1.60 fee which I think we can scrape together), and you just have to be a Junior/Senior. All you really have to pay for is books, and I thought that was annoying. The universities we've looked at accept CLEP, but DD doesn't really want to do it. Dh always tried to convince her to just test out of high school (I don't even know if you can do that anymore but it's what he did, not the GED but something else) but she's against that too. She's always done great on tests, even when she doesn't know the material. She wants to be able to take the college courses and learn the material like that, not just skip past them. Obviously there's nothing wrong with doing so, but it's not for her. She might end up doing CLEP anyway because of finances, and that's what my original point was. As I said, I should've been more clear. Is it doable? Yes. Of course it is! I knew of people doing it before this thread. But it's not comparable to what people usually talk about when they mention their "working through college." Just the other day some guy was talking about how he worked through college and kids these days aren't. I inquired and he said something about a part time job at a restaurant. Nope, not cutting it anymore. Not even close. I don't want my DD to have to make sacrifices like going away to Alaska and not taking the most challenging courses and so on. If she wants to go to a university that's not the state one then I want her to be able to do that. I don't think there's anything wrong with being extremely bothered that these things are needed now. I certainly don't think anyone who says they've done it is crazy or lying. The only thing I think is crazy is the fact that these things are needed to go to a college.

I do agree it looks poorly made. If the lace was the girls slip I don't think she would be lifting it up, and it looks like part is meant to show, but it definitely doesn't show evenly around. BMI isn't an accurate way to gauge weight though. She looks healthy to me.

I will never understand this. It's not just young people either. I pass older people all the time doing this, and I usually notice because they're driving terribly. If you need to text/call/whatever so bad then get something that's hands free.

I don't know anything about age, but yep, a common misconception is that it's just sunlight. It often is caused by sunlight because the sun is giving off heat, obviously, but it can be hot without the sun. It'd be more obvious in the face because the hair is thinner there (or something, I just know something about the face showing sooner/more). It's not anything to worry about.

There is still a major difference between skinny and asthmatic.

I'd look at the reviews. Any one that mentions the level for the 2nd says they use it in college. I don't know about how often it's used though.

Rats can be nice, but I wouldn't give one as a present without asking for the child's thoughts on them first. The feeling of a rat's tail is so, so disgusting to me that it immediately eliminates any niceness. As for hamsters, I had one when I was little and all I remember was that she ate her baby. Agh. Ds has guinea pigs and they're cute, but I do believe they need friends. I've always seen them in pairs. They usually let me hold them and they'll crawl around on you. I like them. They do require a lot of maintenance though. I believe the same is true for rabbits.

It happened with our cat too. It's due to heat, not sunlight. I think there's also something about diets but ours was definitely due to the heat.

Interesting how we've gone from "my husband paid 40k a year for this great university" to "well your kid doesn't need to go to that school"

It wasn't edited, it was a separate post. Apparently you were so busy moving down the line that you managed to skip mine. *shrug*

I never took it as a personal attack, and I didn't mean it was just insulting to me. I think it's a bit insulting to a lot of people. I clarified what I meant by doable but apparently you are too busy attributing weird things to my words to actually look at that post.

I will lighten up when you aren't so rude. I never said anything about anyone lying, so I would appreciate it if you didn't act like I have. Ah, look at me being negative again :(

It was a mistake to say doable. It is obviously doable for some people. But not all, and it is nowhere near as easy as it was when people were in college however many years ago. That was my point. I am tired of hearing peoples stories from decades ago as if it is equal to what teenagers go through now.

Your anecdotal evidence doesn't prove anything and is frankly offensive. Acting like people can't pay for college because they aren't willing to work is insulting and ridiculous considering how large the situation is. You're also acting like we've done no research on jobs. Staring salaries on most cruise ships aren't great. Why don't you get off your high horse and do some research like I said in my original post on this?

I will be sure to tell my daughter next time she is stressed out about college tuition she shouldn't worry because there's always seasonal construction work in Alaska. I invite you to come here and find a job in college, by the way. It is barely doable. All they offer is internships. Internship after internship, and no pay. They're barely hiring adults, let alone kids in college or fresh out of it.

The definition of lingerie has nothing about daytime wear and I have never once in my life heard someone refer to any daytime wear as lingerie. I shouldn't have said bra/underwear, I didn't know how to describe lingerie, but it's certainly not daytime wear. Tap pants are basically underwear. They tend to be flimsy fabric, lacy, sheer, silk, whatever. The only time that romper resembled that was in the picture where the girl lifted it up, to show part that you wouldn't see.

I don't think making a teenager resent his parents is very good advice.

People on here are the most anti-romper I've ever seen. I do understand the bathroom thing, but I think they're cute. If you think that looks like lingerie then I'm really interested in what your lingerie looks like. I was under the impression lingerie implied bra/underwear, which doesn't look like the link at all.

Whenever I hear stories about people working for their college tuition back when they were young I have to resist rolling my eyes. I'm sure you did, and that's great. It is something to be proud of. It's simply not doable anymore though. You can easily research how much the price of college has risen and how pay has not. You also have to get a job before you can deal with the not enough to live pay, which is hard. Let's think about how everything has changed before we talk about how we used to pay for all of our college and the entitlement generation and blah blah. As for the internet, it's not just entertainment. Saying it is reminds me of the people who get angry about homeless/unemployed people with smart phones. If we lost our jobs/house the last thing I would get rid of would be my smart phone. Access to internet for searching for jobs, email, texting, calling? Do you know how hard it is to work to get a job to without that? Even once you do get a job you often still need internet/phone for communicating with people.

I don't know much about the android so I can't really help with a comparison there. But iMessage is good if you don't have unlimited texting/you go out of the country/probably other things I can't think of. It just takes wifi so you don't have to use your service or pay for the texts.

It's not at all reasonable to assume that. I'd be a bit annoyed by the charge, but I certainly wouldn't start a fuss with the hotel.

Exactly how I feel.

I'd encourage him to try at least once, maybe a few times. But I wouldn't force him to attend. You don't get someone to embrace something by making them associate it with being dragged somewhere they don't want to be.

I'd hardly call associating the word date with romance sexualization of innocent things. Consider the fact that some people use words differently than you, please. I also don't see how it's relevant to nursing or bikinis. I'm fine with those things. I'm still just used to using the word date to mean something romantic. I certainly don't think dads are actually trying to be romantic with their daughters. I just think the phrasing is odd. And that is what this thread was about. The phrasing.

In our library system you can check out 199 books at a time. Yes, 199. It was 99 but they raised it. Apparently 99 wasn't enough for someone.