I hope so because you and I are obviously raising a bunch of germ-ridden barbarians. I had no idea people took the seat issue so seriously. :lol:

Yes, be happy it wasn't already chewed. Guys, are so funny. That 5-second rule doesn't really apply.

Rats, I forgot to add doesn't matter.

:lol: If I had a penis I think it would be a lot of fun doing special sprays and arcs. Oh, and I'd have to write my name in the snow every year. That is one of the few things I envy about men.

My step-father kept complaining when he was here that the kids were leaving the toilet seat up all the time. I told him that there were 3 guys and 3 girls in this house and so it didn't matter. We were all used to it and checked first. So, what is your policy? Does it matter? ETA: Go ahead and select no indoor plumbing if it doesn't matter.

You have to tell him and your mil. They need to know if she's going off the deep end.

Exactly. If for some reason she has to be proved as an unfit mother to protect your niece you need this info.

Has your dh seen the texts?

Yep, have him clean it himself. That's what I did for my floor urinator (not a word is it?).

Call the police. This is considered sexual harassment.

True, but he's 18 and she's almost 20. He's about to go off to college as well.

That is really interesting. Thanks for linking that. I do think for a lot of guys they have some feelings for the girl, not always of course. I wonder if that is why his friend thinks they could be romantic. Besides the fact that he's missing or ignoring signals he needs to deflect.

If she is tolerable in person then I could remain friends. I have a couple friends that are radically different than me on the spectrum of beliefs. We all hs and have similar family values and for the most part it works. We aren't super close as our kids have grown now. I have a feeling that if we all wrote public blogs and we all read them then our relationships would end. Blogs are funny things that way.

I think they are getting bigger. My kids are all taller than me, but then I was the short one in my family with sister and cousins near or even over 6 ft.

I know. The subject thread was really tongue-in-cheek. I'm just frustrated at the outcome. It's hard being a teenager and then throw in all those crazy, hurt feelings.

I think that would've been fun. Thanks goodness for male cousins. I did those things with them.

That's true. But is really sucks for the one whose feeling change and of course can make it awkward or kill the friendship.

Maybe. I think some of it may be a numbers thing. My ds has a lot of female friends and so I guess in that case there are bound to be a few that like him.

You helped him get his start! :lol:

My dd has a lot of guy friends and a couple she's like that didn't like her back. :crying: So I know it's possible, but that liking someone more thing stinks.

I agree. I do admit my son should have noticed some things but he's sometimes obtuse about that. I like to tell my dd, "Oh, you like John?. He's hsed so he won't like girls or know what to do with them until he's at least 18 or 19." And that isn't an insult, some just develop those feelings later.

That is so sweet. I think my ds has some girl friends like that, but he also has sister and he is very close to me so he likes females in general and feels very comfortable with them.

Well, to be honest I could see this coming. It was getting obvious to me when she was posting pics of him on fb with her all the time. My ds likes to bury his head in the sand. I'm sure she was sending even more signals when they were together. I think we will talk about that later today. How to head off those type of signals and not lead a girl on. I feel bad for the girl. Yeah, she pushed too far, but she's got to be hurting.

How does that work though? Sometimes, obviously attraction grows over time.

I always thought they could, but I'm starting to wonder. Even when I was a teen I realized that a lot of my guy friends liked me more than just a friend. My ds has a lot of friends that are girls as well as guys. I thought if anyone could pull it off he could, but the other night one of his friends literally jumped on him and tried to make out with him, and the one girl in his posse (they are teens LOL) likes him desperately. He's had trouble with girls at work as well. He's chosen not to date right now because he's about to go off to university, he's already had his heart crushed by 2 girls he liked and it hurt, and he strongly dislikes the constant break ups of all his friends that end up with the couple hating each other. We adore the girl in his posse, but he considers her one of the guys. Yes, my ds is good looking, but he's also very sweet. He likes to have a lot of friends and have fun. Now I think he will be losing that one friend that is a girl because he is having to tell her that it's not gonna happen. Can teenagers just be friends?