:grouphug: Just wanted to let you know, I understand.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:That is funny! I have never heard that before. Thanks for the laugh!

I would never do anything to bring harm to my children or myself. Everything else, would come as it may. I'm sitting here trying to come up with something I wouldn't want to do without, I guess nothing is safe, as I can't come up with a good reason to keep anything but my husband and children! :001_smile:

Our neighbor had a dog named Treedog and a cat named Boulder.

Yes I screamed, but not while pushing. I screamed trying not to push. I was a 4 when my body started rolling up of it's own accord. It was hard not to push. I had no pain meds, due to being a VBAC. I wanted it that way, don't get me wrong. I did it for the safety of my baby. It was tough. Contractions were high, with just seconds between them. I WAS hyperventilating. So, even thought I don't know what scene you were talking about, I might have been there. I did apologize to everyone in the room after the birth. I was so embarassed because I am not a screamer, but it was all I could do to fight pushing. When I did finally dialate 2 hours later, I gave one push, and she was out.

Not bad for Orange County!!

Are you talking financial disclosure as in salary? Or as in personal household budget, how much you spend and where on personal things like food, entertainment, and such?? If it was just income, I wouldn't care too much. Of course I'm always up for adventure.

:iagree: It is something not many non-homeschoolers can understand. I'm happy to make the sacrifice! If my husband were to lose his job tomorrow and we lost everything, we would still do whatever we could to make sure one of us was there to do the schooling.

My husband has his Bachelors in Business, Masters (Aug 09) in Business and I do believe that because of this, it has allowed me to stay home. That and before we were married we talked about me staying home once we had children, the rest has just evolved over time. I know many many homeschooling families with very little college if any and jobs that are just barley enough, and they have some of the best kids I know. So, while school/education has some to do with parents staying home, I think it has do with wanting to give our kids the best start possible in life.

Hi, I'm not new to TWTM, or the boards, but I am new to posting and checking it out more. I was around a few years ago before the rules changed ( I guess) so I had to sign up again. My name is Susan and I have been married to my husband for 12 years. We have three kiddos. DD 11, DS 11 (twins) and DD 7. We live in Central Oregon. We have homeschooled from the beginning. When my twins were 4 I was lamenting having to send them away to school. I knew of homeschooling but figured there was no way I could actually do it. A dear friend sat down with me and spent many hours answering all my questions, and is always a phone call away when I begin to feel incapable. My wonderful husband is a huge support. With those two things we jumped in with both feet running. I'm learning as we go, and figure that by the time I graduate my youngest I will have it all figured out. :D So, that is me!

I went to college for 2 years, married my husband at 20 had twins just a few months after my 21st birthday and another when I was 25. We homeschool for religious beliefs and that we feel it is our duty and privilege to do so. I watched more movies in high school and yes, drew body outlines of ourselves in my advanced English class. 1/2 of our grade in that class was writing down the quote each day. I'm still unsure why the teacher had us lay down on paper to draw our body outlines and color them. I went to college very unprepared. I loved school, loved to study and research so I did very well in college. However, when it came to understanding history I didn't even know when or where the civil war was. I was embarrased more than once in our history study groups. (Funny thing...I married a History Major) I wish I had taken a few more years to finish my college degree, but ONLY so I could use it as proof to naysayers. Thankfully I still enjoy researching and learning. If I pass anything along to my children, I hope to give them the skills to be able to learn whatever they want!

No kidding! I would love to live in some of these towns with lower house payments. Of course, I'm sure it has a lot to do with when you bought.

We live in Oregon, just bought our first house last year. 1680 sq feet, 1728 per month, 2700 a year in taxes. I think P&I is 1200. Insurance takes the rest. We have a 30 year fixed at 5.4%, old size city lot.

Wow! I think I just might be too ill to attend that day. :D

I'm sorry that my statement was misunderstood. I did not mean sex crimes in the sense of horrific crimes. I'm talking the mild sexual harassment crimes that happen. They are considered crimes. I have seen college kids that are obsessed with porn talk nasty to girls, touch them inappropriately and describe their dirty ideas. This was more of what I was referring to. (Just to back up my opinion, I was in college when this was happening)

I wonder if you can come at it from the angle that it makes woman seem like they are s*x toys, not to be valued. It will cause him and his future spouse nothing but pain if he thinks that porn is real life. I would try to discuss it in the sense of how it is not real life, and it will effect his view on women in a negative sense. It will affect his daily life if he lets it get him hooked into needing a fix at work, (fired) or if his future spouse is not into it (divorce) or if he begins to see people in his daily life and fantasize (sex crimes) even in talk. People are very sensitive to se*xual harassment now. Not sure this helps, but I would give it everything in my power to try before he reaches 18.

That is just sad that CPS won't get involved. I bet if it was a "homeschooling" family they would have jumped on it. I agree with the poster that suggested getting the girl to be your "mothers helper". I have lived in a situation similar to this one in the sense of being yelled at for minor offenses when parents were fighting, or being put down over chores not being perfectly done. The only issues that could arise from her being a mothers helper, is the guilt that could be placed on her from her mother for being willing to help someone else out instead of her own mom. It's irrational, but it will happen if this woman is into the guilt trips. I say, if the 13 year old is truly frightened, and you believe or have witnessed this story to be true, you have to fight for her. Because of her age she will not be able to stand under the pressure alone, and she will begin to feel it's all her fault when adults question her repeatedly. She may replay things in her mind, her parents may try to turn the story around, and even though they say they will change, when behind closed doors it will only get worse. I can attest to this! How many times when I would try and speak up, my mom in front of the other party would say, wow, I had no idea you felt this way. Am I really that terrible? I will try to work on it. Yet, when the people went away it would always get worse. The guilt that was laid on me, the silent treatments, the yelling, the snotty remarks, the list goes on. If I was that 13 year old, I would just want to try and stick it out. Unless someone had a solid place for me to go to until it really could get worked out. I was so happy to leave when I was 18. I have a supportive husband who has helped me, and couseling that has given me the tools to forgive my mom. The thing that helped me most, was having someone to talk to, to tell me it's not normal, it's not my fault, I didn't deserve it. Be there to talk and listen if anything else. I just don't see anything good coming from CPS if they are not willing to remove her. Sorry that was so long, I guess it hit a nerve with me.

Did you just buy your house in the last year?? I had the same thing happening months after we bought our house. I called our lender, insurance agent and realtor. Because so few houses were selling, in order for a house to sell at a certain price they need picture evidence of a house like it that has sold with in a year. So, I had tons of realtors taking pictures of my house. I freaked out, until I was told what it was. Question- Is it the same car, same person each time?

Thank you! Thank you for helping me to put this back into perspective. I was needing it. :001_smile:

I'm not sure why this is bothering me so much, but we are the only ones homeschooling in our families (both sides) so we don't have any family support per se. Today my sister in law made it a point to dance in front of my face saying that both her kids were now full time in PS and she will have the whole day to herself to do whatever she wants...hahahahah... She doesn't want to volunteer in the classes now that her youngest is out of Kindergarten. It was almost a you don't get any time alone, hahaha type attitude. I know that homeschooling is what is best for my children. It is what God has called us to do. My husband is a supporter 150%. It made me feel pretty low today though. I wish I could just let things like this slide off my shoulder, but it seems to just nag me. Sorry, just needed some support today. Susan