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International Holocaust Remembrance Day--World Still Hasn't Recovered


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So I was doing a post on this, and decided to do some research.

It is very sobering to learn that the population of Jews in the world was 16.7 million in 1939.

It was 11 million in 1945.

It is still only 14.6 million today.

That means, the Jewish population still has not recovered from the effects of the Holocaust.  Today. 75 years later. 😞

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jewish-population-of-the-world

 

I'll also add that "never again" were words only.  We've seen Rwanda, Bosnia, Cambodia, Indonesia, the Rohingya, and the Uyghurs since then.  I never knew about the Soviets losing 13.3% of their population...or what the Soviets did to the Ukranians.   This is sobering: 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides_by_death_toll

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7 minutes ago, Dotwithaperiod said:

I know this is about the Holocaust. But look at Aung San Suu. How on earth can a woman with her history be complicit in the genocide of Rohingyas today? I can not bend my mind around her.

I know.  In some ways, it reminds me of the Milgram experiment--although she's reportedly the one in power, but perhaps realty is it's the military.  Perhaps te transition from military to democracy hasn't really happened in Myanmar.   I remember when she won the Nobel Prize.... I remember all the good press about her.  But if you've heard the stereotypes about a group for your entire life... you're not completely immune.  

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Way too many people refuse to believe the Holocaust was real. I read an article just yesterday that there has been an uptick in neo-Nazis visiting Holocaust sites in order to be combative with guides and write denial stuff in the visitor books.

And then there's the rise in anti-Semitism. Synagogues in some places in Europe have stopped posting schedules publicly. The mass shooting in Pittsburgh was very recent. Overall hate crime violence against Jews is up in the US. White supremacy is on the rise.

But then also, when you try to compare events to the Holocaust - whether it's patterns in how governments treat people, the creation of literal concentration camps, or the mass murder of groups... then you now get doublespeak accused of undermining the Holocaust. Like, unless it's the 1940's in Germany with the actual Nazi party led by Hitler, it can't really be a lead up to genocide or even an actual genocide because only the Holocaust is "allowed" to own that in some people's minds.

We definitely have learned nothing.

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On 1/27/2020 at 12:07 PM, Dotwithaperiod said:

I know this is about the Holocaust. But look at Aung San Suu. How on earth can a woman with her history be complicit in the genocide of Rohingyas today? I can not bend my mind around her.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-51183521?fbclid=IwAR0gLkgmZC86JdSO89yrXHRd3xZQxJGpopzqke5RW7vjOchzpqbvWYJlz0g

This is a good article, "Rohingya crisis: The Gambian who took Aung San Suu Kyi to the world court"

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7 minutes ago, Dotwithaperiod said:

As a millennial (born in '85) I find this very strange. We had WWII vets in our schools and I had several WWII obsessed teachers. I can't really fathom this in my age group.

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21 minutes ago, Dotwithaperiod said:

Wow, that's truly hard to believe.  My kids were born from 89 to 95, and I can't imagine any of their peers not knowing what the Holocaust is.  Schools here really emphasized remembering the Holocaust, bringing in WWII vets, reading books on it...  That just seems bizarre!  

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On 1/27/2020 at 12:53 PM, umsami said:

I never knew about the Soviets losing 13.3% of their population...or what the Soviets did to the Ukranians.   This is sobering: 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides_by_death_toll

If you're interested in reading a book that shows a slice of this, the book Babi Yar gives a horrific view of what went on in Kiev (in the Soviet Ukraine):

https://www.amazon.com/Babi-Yar-Document-Complete-Uncensored/dp/0374528179/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=babi+yar&qid=1580264598&s=books&sr=1-1

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/kiev-and-babi-yar

 

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2 hours ago, J-rap said:

Wow, that's truly hard to believe.  My kids were born from 89 to 95, and I can't imagine any of their peers not knowing what the Holocaust is.  Schools here really emphasized remembering the Holocaust, bringing in WWII vets, reading books on it...  That just seems bizarre!  

I believe it. My adult dc are younger than yours, but both are appalled at the lack of historical knowledge among their traditionally-schooled peers.   

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