Roadrunner Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Can somebody please tell me which chapters can be skipped in this book and which ones are a must? I have 6th edition. I know some are supposed to be Chem related, but I can’t figure out how with any confidence what to cover and what to skip. 😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regentrude Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 (edited) Which Giancoli? He has two different textbooks. principles with applications? Edited December 9, 2017 by regentrude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regentrude Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 (edited) Going by this TOC:http://wps.prenhall.com/esm_giancoli_physicsppa_6/0,8713,1113739--t,00.html For a two semester course: 1st semester mechanics and brief thermo (only 1-2 weeks max) ch 1-9 thoroughly. Basis of mechanics ch 10-12 as overview (fluids, vibrations, and waves). Go a bit deeper in vibrations, skim sound Thermo: ch. 13 probably done in chemistry. ch 14 might be done in chem. ch. 15 as a survey. will also be done in chem 2nd semester E&M: ch 16-24 thoroughly, skim ch 25 If you only have 2 semesters, I would prefer to teach mechanics and e&m thoroughly and skip modern physics (ch 26-33) If you have three semesters or a student interested in physics, I would cover these in a separate semester, but not at the expense of the earlier stuff Edited December 9, 2017 by regentrude 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted December 9, 2017 Author Share Posted December 9, 2017 Yes, that's the textbook! Thank you Regentrude. Modern physics is his favorite part. Luckily I have three semesters, so it looks like we will just omit 13,14,15. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regentrude Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 If you have 3 semesters, you can cover thermo, there's enough time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathy in Richmond Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 We used an older edition, but the chapter titles are identical to those in the TOC linked by regentrude. By the end of December, we'd covered mechanics Chapters 1 through 9 VERY thoroughly. The rest of the year (through May) we did Chapters 10 through 24. Then he just read through Chapters 25, 27, 30, 31 (no problems assigned) & prepped for the SAT 2 test. Pretty much what regentrude said. :laugh: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted December 10, 2017 Author Share Posted December 10, 2017 We used an older edition, but the chapter titles are identical to those in the TOC linked by regentrude. By the end of December, we'd covered mechanics Chapters 1 through 9 VERY thoroughly. The rest of the year (through May) we did Chapters 10 through 24. Then he just read through Chapters 25, 27, 30, 31 (no problems assigned) & prepped for the SAT 2 test. Pretty much what regentrude said. :laugh: Does very thoroughly mean solving every problem at the end of the chapter, or would it be enough to solve just level 2 problems and maybe a sample of level 3? Level 1 seems really easy. He will eventually do calculus based physics and has already completed conceptual course with some algebra. I know it’s the same material over and over, but he is a bit obsessed with physics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathy in Richmond Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Does very thoroughly mean solving every problem at the end of the chapter, or would it be enough to solve just level 2 problems and maybe a sample of level 3? Level 1 seems really easy. He will eventually do calculus based physics and has already completed conceptual course with some algebra. I know it’s the same material over and over, but he is a bit obsessed with physics.No No - not every single problem - just meant that I made sure that he was solid on these topics. It was a first physics course here, but ds had read a lot on his own informally before that year. Then he took calc based physics the following year using Resnick & Halliday. For example, in the linear momentum chapter, it looks like I assigned all the odd numbered problems. Most of them were level 2, but there were a few level 1 and level 3 problems mixed in. So in total about 30 problems assigned over a 2 week period. He took a quiz (from Giancoli's online website) at the end of each chapter as a check, and he reviewed the whole book for the SAT 2 exam at the end of the year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted December 11, 2017 Author Share Posted December 11, 2017 (edited) One more question, please. The end of chapter has three sections: questions, problems, and general problems. Should questions and general problems sections be covered in their entirety or should I also just do a sample of questions from there as I am doing with the “problems†section? I know those are stupid questions, but I am swimming blind in physics. Edited December 11, 2017 by Roadrunner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regentrude Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 (edited) These are not stupid questions. I don't have this Giancoli text, but I have his other one. Its like any other text and has a large assortment of problems so instructors can customize. I assign 5-8 worked out problems (depending on difficulty and number of sub-parts) per week in my algebra based physics class. I have not seen a big distinction between "problems" and "general problems" - only that the latter are not sorted by section, and may contain a few more challenging problems. From the conceptual questions, I choose a few to work into class discussion. ETA: If you have no physics expertise, I recommend finding a syllabus for a class that uses this text and use their assignments; the instructor will have put thought into the selection. Edited December 11, 2017 by regentrude 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathy in Richmond Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 I mostly assigned the problems, with a few general problems for challenge. We didn't use the questions section. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootAnn Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 I don't know if it will help, but I found an AP Physics syllabus using the 6th edition Giancoli book. I also found a high school physics page where the teacher puts the assigned problem #s on the calendar. Click on AP Physics 1, then Calendar, then check for dates with problem numbers & page numbers. AP Physics 2 also uses Giancoli 6th edition. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted December 11, 2017 Author Share Posted December 11, 2017 I don't know if it will help, but I found an AP Physics syllabus using the 6th edition Giancoli book. I also found a high school physics page where the teacher puts the assigned problem #s on the calendar. Click on AP Physics 1, then Calendar, then check for dates with problem numbers & page numbers. AP Physics 2 also uses Giancoli 6th edition. Thank helps. I was looking for the old AP physics syllabus (before the redesign), but this should work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkT Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 You may also want to read https://www.aip.org/statistics/reports/high-school-physics-textbooks High School Physics Textbooks Results from the 2008-09 Nationwide Survey of High School Physics Teachers September 2010 Also when you find a syllabus you like down load it and save it - it may be gone the next week! Are you looking for AP Physics B Syllabi that used the Giancoli 6th? There may be a few left out there or folks here may have it saved. update: AP Physics B Syllabi http://lcmrschooldistrict.com/curriculum/science/lcmr-ap-physics.pdf you can only print this one- button to the right https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi4xZDJ54TYAhUH5yYKHTu_BHsQFgg_MAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fstudylib.net%2Fdoc%2F10095964%2Fsyllabus--ap-physics-b&usg=AOvVaw1gPxFXJQTD94-fJ1r2o_dM> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathy in Richmond Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Are you looking for AP Physics B Syllabi that used the Giancoli 6th? There may be few left out there or folks here may have it saved. Here's an old AP Physics B syllabus designed by Delores Gendes which is aligned with Giancoli's 5th or 6th edition. I used an earlier version of her planning guide when I taught from that text & found it to be very useful. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 Here's an old AP Physics B syllabus designed by Delores Gendes which is aligned with Giancoli's 5th or 6th edition. I used an earlier version of her planning guide when I taught from that text & found it to be very useful. This one tells me exactly what to do. I needed this! 😋 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happybeachbum Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Another good site is https://www.physicsforums.com I've learned a lot especially about using older editions of Physics books. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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