mmasc Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Can someone link me to a thread comparing these? Or if you'd like, give me a run-down on them? I've never done them, or researched them, but I've found out that our new state (we just moved) requires them. Which would be best for a 6th grader who has never taken one? Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maize Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 I like the Stanford Achievement Test because it is untimed. Does your state require outside test administration or can you administer it yourself? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmasc Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 I like the Stanford Achievement Test because it is untimed. Does your state require outside test administration or can you administer it yourself? Good question...thank you! I looked it up and it only states that a 'nationally standardized achievement test must be administered annually'. So I'm assuming that means I can do it. I think my DS would like the untimed aspect. Do you use/recommend the computer or paper Stanford? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insertcreativenamehere Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 (edited) We have done the paper Stanford and it was a real slog ... because it was untimed, it seemed to take FOREVER. I liked how detailed the score report was, though. We most recently did the online CAT which was less time-consuming but the data report fairly broad and not as useful as the Stanford. I'm thinking of doing the online Stanford this year to get the best of both worlds. :) Edited March 13, 2017 by insertcreativenamehere 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SebastianCat Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 My kids have done the CAT (CAT-5 survey, a short version) and last year DS did the ITBS. DS's results were virtually identical between the two tests, but the ITBS is a longer test that takes longer to administer. They will both do the ITBS this year, and this will likely be DS's last year before I begin using the SAT and/or ACT as his test for our end-of-year evaluation. I want DD to start taking the ITBS so she gets experience with a longer test. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Job121 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I used CAT couple times because it was cheaper, shorter, and meet the state requirement. I liked IOWA test better personally. Maybe it provides more sub-scores which allows me to see my students' strong aspects as well as weak. Here is the sample IOWA score report. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillStanding Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 We liked the IOWA test. It is timed, which is a skill children need to learn, and I could administer it myself. Bob Jones sells and scores the test. I don't know what other providers are out there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeganW Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I really like the info I got from the Woodcock-Johnson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luuknam Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I really like the info I got from the Woodcock-Johnson. I'm pretty sure you need a psychologist to administer that 1-1, making it one of the most expensive ways to deal with annual testing requirements (also, in my state, the W-J is only accepted in combination with some other test, the name of which I don't remember). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmasc Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 I know states vary, but is there a certain one that is usually acceptable in most states? We move often and I'm just thinking maybe I could start with one that will work everywhere to get my kids familiar with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maize Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Good question...thank you! I looked it up and it only states that a 'nationally standardized achievement test must be administered annually'. So I'm assuming that means I can do it. I think my DS would like the untimed aspect. Do you use/recommend the computer or paper Stanford? I did the paper one, haven't done the computer version to compare. We did not do it all in one day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeganW Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I'm pretty sure you need a psychologist to administer that 1-1, making it one of the most expensive ways to deal with annual testing requirements (also, in my state, the W-J is only accepted in combination with some other test, the name of which I don't remember). We have a lady who has been trained to do it, but is definitely not a psychologist. She does it for many of the homeschoolers in the area. She came to my house. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alisha Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Here's one I have been studying. https://www.familylearning.org/test_comparison.php 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luuknam Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 (edited) We have a lady who has been trained to do it, but is definitely not a psychologist. She does it for many of the homeschoolers in the area. She came to my house. :) Huh. Good to know I guess? Celery's only had it done by the school psych, and everyone else I'd heard of had it done by either school psychs or neuropsychs. I know states vary, but is there a certain one that is usually acceptable in most states? We move often and I'm just thinking maybe I could start with one that will work everywhere to get my kids familiar with it. The CAT/TerraNova and ITBS/Iowa are accepted very widely - the Stanford one probably is too, but I'm not as familiar with that one. I will say though that out of those options, the CAT/TerraNova is is the only one parents can administer without having a bachelor's degree (which is why it's the test we use). Looks like no-one has mentioned the PASS yet. I'm not sure how widely that one is accepted, but it is in NY, and we're considered to be a high-reg state - and you don't need a bachelor's for that one either. ETA: so according to the link that someone posted while I wrote this, the CAT6/TerraNova is not accepted in all states, but the CAT5 is. Edited March 14, 2017 by luuknam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeganW Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Huh. Good to know I guess? Celery's only had it done by the school psych, and everyone else I'd heard of had it done by either school psychs or neuropsychs. There is a different person than we use who administers it in the local homeschool store's room. So I'm sure it's not a psych-only thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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