mathmarm Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 I'm looking at a phonics programs lessons on blending breakdown and it's breaking up 2-syllable, short vowel words like this. Say the word is "hammer" h a mm e r (e has a short vowel sound) ha mm e r (e has a short vowel sound) hamm e r (e has a short vowel sound) hamme r (e has a short vowel sound) To me, the way that the program is doing it is wrong, Hammer doesn't have a short-e sound in the 2nd syllable, and I think that not using the er, as a complete syllable is wrong. The way that *I* would decode/blend this word is this h a mm er ha mm er hamm er hammer Is the program WRONG, or is this a difference of Phonetic Opinion?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadingMama1214 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 So our phonics program. Ordinary Parents Guide to Teaching Reading does it with "er" as making its own sound and as a syllable. It looks like ham-mer in ours 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MistyMountain Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) Er is definitely its own sound not short e plus r. Er is a phongram. Even in programs without phonograms I see it together. Edited February 3, 2017 by MistyMountain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garga Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 The rule is that you split words into syllables between the consonants. So, first off, it should be split as: ham mer You'd next move to the rule that -er is a phonogram that goes together. Like how th and sh go together. The th or sh isn't pronounced as two separate sounds. When they're together, they're one sound. the -er in hammer is one sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadingMama1214 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 What program is it? I agree "er" is a phonogram of its own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 I'm looking at a phonics programs lessons on blending breakdown and it's breaking up 2-syllable, short vowel words like this. Say the word is "hammer" h a mm e r (e has a short vowel sound) ha mm e r (e has a short vowel sound) hamm e r (e has a short vowel sound) hamme r (e has a short vowel sound) To me, the way that the program is doing it is wrong, Hammer doesn't have a short-e sound in the 2nd syllable, and I think that not using the er, as a complete syllable is wrong. The way that *I* would decode/blend this word is this h a mm er ha mm er hamm er hammer Is the program WRONG, or is this a difference of Phonetic Opinion?? There is never a time when I would describe "er" as an e with a short vowel sound; "er" says /ur/, a two-letter phonogram with one sound. Spalding would have the children sound it out like this: /h/ /a/ /m/ /er/. They would write "ham mer," and they'd learn the rule about spelling and writing words with double consonants like that; in fact, the double consonants would be an indication that the "a" says its first (or "short") sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerryAtHope Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Agreeing with the others--I have no idea how they expect anyone to blend a short E with an R and come up with the /er/ sound! It should divide ham-mer. The first syllable is closed (so the a is short), and the second syllable is r-controlled (use the sound of /er/). Very strange approach! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathmarm Posted February 4, 2017 Author Share Posted February 4, 2017 Any idea if this is correct/standard for another English speaking country? Like the UK or Australia or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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