Moxie Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I read a lot about NFP because I hate it and I'm trying to like it. Or at least not hate it so passionately. Spoiler alert--it isn't working!! I've read lots of blog and forum posts about people who have abstained for months or years. How is that not a sin against the unitive aspect of teA?? Baby making is NOT the only purpose of teA! I'd love to read something (blog, etc.) about the importance of the other purpose for teA, unity between spouses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithManor Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Is it okay to say Congratulations! :grouphug: :grouphug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moxie Posted May 16, 2014 Author Share Posted May 16, 2014 Is it okay to say Congratulations! :grouphug: :grouphug: Wait, what? Use small words, it is a Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Wait, what? Use small words, it is a Friday. She thinks you might be pregnant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moxie Posted May 16, 2014 Author Share Posted May 16, 2014 No, the "not working" means I don't love it. The NFP is working great! We're not having teA like it is our job!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathryn Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I thought pregnant too. Oops! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithManor Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Okay, I took the "not working" part with (spoiler alert) wrong. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albeto. Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I read a lot about NFP because I hate it and I'm trying to like it. Or at least not hate it so passionately. Spoiler alert--it isn't working!! I've read lots of blog and forum posts about people who have abstained for months or years. How is that not a sin against the unitive aspect of teA?? Baby making is NOT the only purpose of teA! I'd love to read something (blog, etc.) about the importance of the other purpose for teA, unity between spouses. Are you looking for a loophole to the teaching? You can look in the catechism about following your conscience, and how that is to be respected, even if it goes against Catholic teaching. Then simply recognize that your conscience cannot allow you to deny your marriage a healthy, normal intimacy, but at the same time you cannot in good conscience invite more children into your family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moxie Posted May 16, 2014 Author Share Posted May 16, 2014 Gosh, sorry! Not pregnant, AFAIK. DH did look at me funny a few days ago so you never know! Loophole? No. If I didn't want to follow the teaching, I wouldn't. I'm just interested in reading about the importance of unity. Actually, never mind. Too much thinking on a Friday afternoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milovany Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Actually, never mind. Too much thinking on a Friday afternoon. From what I've seen, I'd put the "never mind" at the top of your first post, or this has the potential of blowing up over the weekend. Have seen it happen with this topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsinkable Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 From what I've seen, I'd put the "never mind" at the top of your first post, or this has the potential of blowing up over the weekend. Have seen it happen with this topic. Good advice. It might be safer to ask this question in a private Catholic group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoseInABook Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Simcha Fisher wrote a book about this! http://www.amazon.com/Sinners-Guide-Natural-Family-Planning/dp/1612787878/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1400286619&sr=8-1&keywords=simcha+fisher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moxie Posted May 17, 2014 Author Share Posted May 17, 2014 Simcha Fisher wrote a book about this! http://www.amazon.com/Sinners-Guide-Natural-Family-Planning/dp/1612787878/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1400286619&sr=8-1&keywords=simcha+fisher Have you read it? I'd love a review if you have! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustEm Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 I would imagine that it could lead to sin if the abstinence effects your marriage in a negative way. Some couples are truly able to make the decision to abstain long term for whatever reason and and still have unity in their marriage. If they are able to do that and have good reason to abstain than I can't see it being sinful. Other couples simply can not do it long term without it driving the couple apart, which is understandable but I think that would lead to it being sinful. When it gets to that point I imagine the couple would need to reevaluate their reasons for abstaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Wife Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Get yourself an electronic fertility monitor that will help you clarify ambiguous fertility signals. I would recommend the Persona as that's designed for trying to avoid rather than ttc. Seriously, it's worth the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdrinca Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 http://www.foryourmarriage.org/catholic-marriage/catholic-beliefs/marital-sexuality/ Have you seen this site? It's the USCCB's marriage support outreach. There are occasionally some good ideas here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustEm Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 I will recommend seeing a dr who specializes in Napro again. It may be expensive but its probably cheaper than another child for the time being. And they may be able to help you figure out why your ovulation is so difficult to detect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoseInABook Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 I did read it and I enjoyed it. I don't use NFP anymore because my husband chose to get a vasectomy seeing that my pregnancies are life threatening high-risk. But it was a humorous read and she really met people in the, "Uuugh, this is driving me nuts but I know I need to keep using NFP" spot. I didn't expect that I'd be teary over some of it but it was a good read. The Kindle edition is a bargain too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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