AimeeM Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Do they all touch on astronomy and physics or is there one that does so more than the others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saille Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 The Hakim books are organized chronologically, so you'll have plenty of early astronomy in first one, Newton in the second, and various more modern developments in the third. I wonder if your library has them and you could do some picking and choosing? We've chosen to run Hakim's books alongside our science and history rotation, so while my Logic Stage son was learning ancients, we read Aristotle Leads the Way. Now we're in the Middle Ages, so he's started Newton at the Center. HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Academy Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 The second one, Newton at the Center, is much more what you'd think of as middle school physical science. It covers astronomy with copernicus, galileo, kepler, brahe etc., then moves to Newton and covers a lot of the basics of physics - light/optics, motion, force, gravity. Then it covers gases, a little chemistry (the periodic table and early atomic theory), then heat. The third book covers more "modern" physics - electricy & magnetism, atomic theory, etc. I'm building a pretty cool (IMO) physical science course around Newton for next year, bringing in extra resources for astronomy, Newtonian physics, and chemistry, and covering each topic pretty thoroughly. Then we'll still have to pick up the "rest" of physics at some point, not sure how we'll approach that yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AimeeM Posted March 13, 2013 Author Share Posted March 13, 2013 Thanks ladies! We're doing earth science with a focus on astronomy and space science next year (as per dd's request). I'm not finding what I want/need in any *one* textbook. I was looking at Holt Earth and Space, but I'm wondering if I should go more the astronomy/physics route so I can employ my husband's awesomeness, lol. I'm just nervous about those quest guides :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cschnee Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Why are you nervous about the quest guides? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AimeeM Posted March 13, 2013 Author Share Posted March 13, 2013 Why are you nervous about the quest guides? The samples look pretty classroom geared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cschnee Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 We've used both and love them! We use them like scrapbooks or interactive notebooks, adding in everything else we've done that relates. They are a lot of fun and I don't think they are geared to the classroom at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Academy Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Well, to be fair, I think they are *geared* to the classroom - in that it gives a teacher a step-by-step script about how to turn the chapter into a lesson, with discussion of the reading, timelines, and classwide activities. However, it is easily adaptable to working with a single student in the home setting, the activities are good, the discussion questions are good - the Quest guides help to turn it from just an interesting text-ish book into an actual science curriculum, complete with labs & activities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas_mom Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I'm building a pretty cool (IMO) physical science course around Newton for next year, bringing in extra resources for astronomy, Newtonian physics, and chemistry, and covering each topic pretty thoroughly. Then we'll still have to pick up the "rest" of physics at some point, not sure how we'll approach that yet. [/Quote] Chrysalis Academy --I would LOVE to hear how you are going to do your physical science course for next year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AimeeM Posted March 15, 2013 Author Share Posted March 15, 2013 Chrysalis Academy --I would LOVE to hear how you are going to do your physical science course for next year! Me too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Academy Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Ok, I'll try and post something this weekend! Working today (well, kinda . . . ;) ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Anna~ Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Ok, I'll try and post something this weekend! Working today (well, kinda . . . ;) ) Just bumping this to see if you would give us some info on this........:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Academy Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Hah! I've actually been reworking my plans for this. I will post what I'm thinking of right now, with a huge caveat that this is still a work in progress. This would be for 6th grade, with the rest of SOS/Newton, plus extra chemistry, covered in 7th grade. So a two-year conceptual physical science class, essentially. Here is the first term's schedule, I'll post the second term in a following email Science – 39 weeks scheduled Term 1: Astronomy Text: Story of Science: Newton at the Center Ch. 1-11 w/ Quest Guides Unit 1 & 2 Research Resources: DK Space Encyclopedia; Eyewitness Astronomy; Eyewitness Visual Dictionary of the Universe Project/Lab Resources: Janice van Cleave’s A+ Projects in Astronomy Living Books: The Planets – Dava Sobel Other Resources: Exploring the Sky: Projects for Beginning Astronomers - Richard Moeschl Unit A: The Solar System (3 weeks) The Planets – Dava Sobel: Read Chapter, look up topic in RRs, watch doco Intro; Bill Nye – Outer Space & Planets; The Cosmos: Adam Hart-Davis - BBC Documentary Ch 1 – The Sun; Bill Nye – The Sun Ch 2 – Mercury Ch 3 – Venus Ch 4 – Earth; How the Earth Was Made - history channel; Smithsonian Chronicles; Earth, A Biography Ch 5 – The Moon Ch 6 – Mars Ch 7 – Jupiter Ch 8 – Saturn Ch 9 – Uranus & Neptune; Ch 10 – Planeteers; Bill Nye – Space Exploration Unit A Assessment - The Planets Paper: Pick one topic and write a report Unit B: History of Astronomy (2 weeks) SOS Unit 1: SOS 1.1 – Ch 1 -Off-Center? It Can’t Be! SOS 1.2, Ch 2 – A New Age/New Ways of Seeing; What’s to Be Made of Leonardo? SOS 1.3, Ch 2 - A New Age/New Ways of Seeing SOS 1.4, Ch 3 – On Revolutions & Fools T&K Experiment p. 89 – The “loops†of Mars SOS 1.5, Ch 4 – Tycho Brahe: Taking Heaven’s Measure SOS 1.6, Ch 4 – Holding a Ruler to the Sky SOS 1.7, Ch 11 – Poor Kepler Unit B Paper: Pick one topic and write a report Unit C: Galileo (3 weeks) SOS Unit 2: SOS 2.1, Ch 5 – Renaissance Men SOS 2.2, Ch 6 – Gazing at a Star Named Galileo SOS 2.3, Ch 5&6 – A True Story; Math, the language of science Zaccaro Challenge Math Ch. 1 - Astronomy SOS 2.4, Ch 7 – Moving Relatively or Relatively Moving?; Messing around with Motion T&K Experiement p. 55 – The Law of Falling Bodies McHenry Gravity Lab (Galileo) McHenry Pendulum Lab SOS 2.5 Ch 8 – Are Novas Really New Stars? Supernovas T&K Exp p. 91 – Direction of a comet’s tail; Bill Nye – Comets & Meteors SOS 2.6 Ch 9 – Moving the Sun and the Earth T&K Exp p. 5 – Lenses & Magnifying Glass T&K Exp p. 7 - Telescope SOS 2.7 Ch 10 – Do You Think You have Troubles? Unit C Paper: Pick one topic & write a report Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Academy Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Term 2: Physics, part 1: Mechanics & Light/Optics Texts: Story of Science: Newton at the Center w/ Quest Guides Ch. 12-17 Life of Fred Physics Ch 1-21 How Things Work Ch. 1-4 plus Coursera class online Labs: T&K Activities Stop Faking it: Force & Motion Stop Faking it: Energy Stop Faking It: Light Term 2 Schedule Unit D: Newton & Light/Optics (2 weeks) SOS Unit 3 – Knowing About Newton 3.1 Ch 12 – Descartes & His Coordinates 3.2 Ch 13 – What’s The Big Attraction 3.3 Ch 14 – Gravity Zaccaro Challenge Math - Calculus 3.4 Ch 15 – Newton Sees the Light T&K p. 9 - Microscope T&K p. 10 – breaking white light into colors T&K p 11 – spectroscope; T&K p 6 – Camera obscura T&K p 15 – photography; T&K p 16 - Film Unit E: Motion, Inertia, Newton’s First Law (11 weeks) 3.5 Ch 16 – Newton Moves T&K p 52 – Friction T&K p 56 – Laws of Motion 3.6 Ch 16 – Newton Moves 3.7 Ch 17 – Fame Finds Newton Stop Faking It Ch. 1 – Motion Basics Stop Faking It Ch 2 – Vectors Stop Faking It Ch 3 – Acceleration Stop Faking It Ch 4 – Inertia/First Law Stop Faking It Ch 5 – Inertia/First Law How Things Work 1.1 – Skating inertia, force, velocity, acceleration Zaccaro’s Challenge Math Ch 15 – Distance = speed x time Zaccaro's Challeng Math CH 18 - Acceleration Unit F: Gravity, weight & mass (3 weeks) Stop Faking It Ch 8 – Gravity Stop Faking It Ch 9 – Weight & Mass How Things Work 1.2 – Falling Balls mass, weight, 1st & 2nd laws, projectile motion, vectors McHenry Inertia of Mass Lab Unit G: Newton’s 3rd Law, Energy, Work (3 weeks) Stop Faking It Ch 6 – Net or Unbalanced Force Stop Faking It Ch 10 – Newton’s 3rd law How Things Work 1.3 – Ramps net force, 3rd law, energy, work Unit H: Newton’s 2nd Law, Center of Mass, Levers (3 weeks) Stop Faking It Ch. 7 – Newton’s 2nd Law How Things Work 2.1 – Seesaws rotational inertia, torque, angular velocity & acceleration, center of mass, levers McHenry Center of Mass Lab ZRWA Ch 11: Algebra & Levers Unit I: LOF Physics Ch. 1-21 (2 weeks) Unit J: Energy (7 weeks) How Things Work 2.2 – Wheels Friction, thermal energy, kinetic energy How Things Work 2.3 – Momentum, impulse, angular motion, potential energy & acceleration How Things Work 3.1 – Spring Scales equilibrium, Hooke’s law, oscillation, calibration, center of gravity How Things Work 3.2 – bouncing Balls collisions, energy transfers, vibration, elastic and inelastic collisions How Things Work 3.3 – Carousels & Roller Coasters feeling of acceleration, uniform circular motion, centripetal acceleration How Thing Work 4.1 – Bicycles unstable equilibrium, static & dynamic stability, precession How Things Work 4.2 – Rockets & Space Travel reaction forces, law of gravitation, elliptical orbits, Keplers laws, special & general relativity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilaclady Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 This is cool. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas_mom Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Thank you, Rose! :hurray: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim C Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Term 2: Physics, part 1: Mechanics & Light/Optics Texts: Story of Science: Newton at the Center w/ Quest Guides Ch. 12-17 Life of Fred Physics Ch 1-21 How Things Work Ch. 1-4 plus Coursera class online Labs: T&K Activities Stop Faking it: Force & Motion Stop Faking it: Energy Stop Faking It: Light Rose Is this the How Things Work book you will be using? Thanks! Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Academy Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Rose Is this the How Things Work book you will be using? Thanks! Kim Yep, that's the one. It's being used in the Coursera class "How Things Work" which is taught be the author, and is awesome!!! It covers just the first two chapters, on Newton's law's of motion, but I have read that he is planning to make more coursera courses for further sections in the book. I've actually decided (since posting that plan) to wait to do How Things Work & the Coursera class until 7th grade, and I'm hoping that by then there will be more courses. I warned y'all that I would be changing my mind! I am back to doing the Astronomy term as described above, then doing the whole book of Story of Science: Newton with the T&K Milestones of Science kit and Ellen McHenry's The Elements in 6th grade, and then doing a more in-depth physics using How Things Work + Stop Faking it books for labs in 7th & 8th grades. I've been spending a lot of time recently thinking about how I want to do science, and how to use the next 3 years (6th-8th) to prepare for high school. Just got through revising my plan for 6th-8th grades. I haven't dropped anything above, but just re-ordered it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim C Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Yep, that's the one. It's being used in the Coursera class "How Things Work" which is taught be the author, and is awesome!!! It covers just the first two chapters, on Newton's law's of motion, but I have read that he is planning to make more coursera courses for further sections in the book. I've actually decided (since posting that plan) to wait to do How Things Work & the Coursera class until 7th grade, and I'm hoping that by then there will be more courses. I warned y'all that I would be changing my mind! I am back to doing the Astronomy term as described above, then doing the whole book of Story of Science: Newton with the T&K Milestones of Science kit and Ellen McHenry's The Elements in 6th grade, and then doing a more in-depth physics using How Things Work + Stop Faking it books for labs in 7th & 8th grades. I've been spending a lot of time recently thinking about how I want to do science, and how to use the next 3 years (6th-8th) to prepare for high school. Just got through revising my plan for 6th-8th grades. I haven't dropped anything above, but just re-ordered it. Thanks Rose! I'm doing some physics planning for fall and looking at lots of options. I have the SOS books and the T&K kit. Now I'll look at the How Things Work and Stop Faking It books to see if they will work for us. We have not tried any of the Coursera classes yet, so maybe I will look into that. Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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