thowell Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Dd12 will be 8th grade next year and wants to do Physical science. I would love to have dd9 tag along. I have looked at a ton of different programs and I am not fond of any of them. So I am trying to build my own. I need to start with a basic list of what should be covered in Physical Science for a typical 8th grader. It seems even the different programs can't agree on this. Just throw the topics at me!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lily_Grace Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Physical properties/states of matter Electricity Simple Machines Sound Magnetism Speed & velocity .........I'm trying to think. My son did this last year with a combination of Noeo's level 2 and the Thames & Cosmos Milestones in Science kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKS Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Take a look at the table of contents in the CPO Physical Science text. It will give you an idea about what is covered in a typical course. (Actually, CPO tends to have a bit more in their books than you might cover in a year, so don't worry about doing all of it.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thowell Posted January 19, 2013 Author Share Posted January 19, 2013 Thanks ladies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 http://www.deltaeduc...bID=5&menuID=68 Science in a Nutshell has some great Physical Science kits: Bubble Science Charge It! Static Electricity Clever Levers Crystal Creations Detective Lab Electrical Connections Electromagnetism Energy and Motion Flight! Gliders to Jets Gases Gears at Work Liquids Magnetic Magic Physical and Chemical Changes Pulley Power Simple Machines Sound Vibrations Water Physics Wheels at Work Work: Plane and Simple These are designed for younger kids, but it should give you a solid idea of what's usually covered. Have you looked at Holt's Physical Science book? http://www.rainbowresource.com/product/Holt+Physical+Science+with+Earth+and+Space+Science+Package/029602/4e8acd938a89dd5816946a34?subject=11&category=9276 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thowell Posted January 19, 2013 Author Share Posted January 19, 2013 Thanks Mrs. Mungo! Almost didn't recognize you. I haven't seen your new avatar! I will look at those! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne J Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Just wanted to add--for your younger tag-a-long--we have been using and absolutely loving the K'Nex Education sets. They have several sets based on simple machines (gears; levers and pulleys; wheels, axels and inclined planes are the ones we have.) The kids love building the objects and really see and understand how the simple machine in question helps do work, and the included TM has a lot of good material to extend the builds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thowell Posted January 21, 2013 Author Share Posted January 21, 2013 Great idea, thanks! Where did you buy them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3us4 Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Try Building Foundations of Scientific Understanding (BFSU) and Great Science Adventures (Common Sense Press). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne J Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 I got my K'Nex sets online at Amazon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Have you looked at TOPS science units? Many of them span several grades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewelma Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 As far as I am concerned, "physical science" is a code word for science-with-a-touch-of-math-or-equations-so-that-they-are-prepared-for-high-school. It is basically anything except biology. So Chemistry, Physics, Earth science, and astronomy. Typically, kids have some biology already by the time they hit 8th grade even if it is just exploring nature and noticing stuff. But chemistry is hidden from sight, and physics is often counter-intuitive to kids or just too esoteric to understand. Astronomy is more complicated than 'oh, here is a constellation', and earth science becomes very technical when you get beyond the basics of earthquakes and volcanoes. So physical science is the bridge to high school. You are really looking to fill gaps. So, where are your dd's gaps? That will inform what she should study. Ruth in NZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thowell Posted January 22, 2013 Author Share Posted January 22, 2013 As far as I am concerned, "physical science" is a code word for science-with-a-touch-of-math-or-equations-so-that-they-are-prepared-for-high-school. It is basically anything except biology. So Chemistry, Physics, Earth science, and astronomy. Typically, kids have some biology already by the time they hit 8th grade even if it is just exploring nature and noticing stuff. But chemistry is hidden from sight, and physics is often counter-intuitive to kids or just too esoteric to understand. Astronomy is more complicated than 'oh, here is a constellation', and earth science becomes very technical when you get beyond the basics of earthquakes and volcanoes. So physical science is the bridge to high school. You are really looking to fill gaps. So, where are your dd's gaps? That will inform what she should study. Ruth in NZ Hmmm that is a great question. This year she is doing Biology so yes you are correct we have that covered. We have touched on Earth Science and Astronomy but not in depth at all. She has had no Physics and very little introduction to Chemistry. She is looking towards a medical career so I want to make sure she is up to speed. I have the Apologia Physical Science here but it seems so dry! I really am at a loss where to go once I read your above post. I had not looked at it that way before. Most of her science exposure has come from unit studies that we have done and most of them where in the life science field. Based on the small amount of exposure she has had in the topics you mentioned where should I go from here? She is doing very well with Lial's Pre-Algebra this year and will move into Lial's Algebra next year so hopefully the math skills needed are there. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I have been pouring over your previous threads trying to get my head to quit spinning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ondreeuh Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 I use Mr. Q Physical Science as a spine. It would be perfect for your 9 year old. I add in additional resources (videos, activities, kits) to correlate with the topics. The topics in Mr. Q are: Forces, Motion & the Metric System Newton's Laws of Motion Simple Machines (Engino Simple Machines kit) Energy (Solar powered car) Heat Light (Thames & Kosmos Optical Science & Art kit) Sound (The Story of the Orchestra website) Electricity (Snap Circuits, TOPS electricity) Magnetism (TOPS magnetism) For the 8th grader, you could add in CK-12 Physical Science for Middle School. Just choose the chapters you want and make a flexbook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thowell Posted January 22, 2013 Author Share Posted January 22, 2013 Thank you ondreeuh. I just looked over the CK-12 book you link and it looks really good. I like that the lessons are broken into bite size pieces. I will look over the other suggestions as well. Thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori D. Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Physical Science is a lite overview of Chemistry and Physics topics. Check out the table of contents in various middle school physical science textbooks for topic ideas, but below are a few ideas. Also look at the Rader's Science 4 Kids websites for topics and basic text for your 9yo: Chem4Kids; Physics4Kids; Geography4Kids (earth science and weather); Cosmos4Kids; Biology4Kids. The Reader's Digest: How Science Works has great 2-page spreads on chemistry and physics topics, with lots of great ideas for experiments. And some of the TOPS units and Educational Insight's Adventures in Science kits are good. MATTER solid liquid gas atom/molecule mass density CHEMICAL REACTIONS & SOLUTIONS periodic table of elements chemical bonding mixtures solutions compounds suspensions crystals acids and bases thermodynamics ENERGY FORCE & MOTION inertia potential energy heat expansion/contraction conduction convection radiation friction action/reaction velocity and acceleration gravity forces laws of motion work LIGHT & SOUND electromagnetic spectrum reflection refraction color lenses waves/particles vibration pitch and tone AIR & WATER pressure water cycle floating and sinking surface tension cohesion/adhesion ELECTRICITY & MAGNETISM poles and fields static electricity current electrical chemistry charge resistance SIMPLE MACHINES FLIGHT / ROCKETRY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thowell Posted January 23, 2013 Author Share Posted January 23, 2013 Wow Lori, when you type it out like that the first thought that comes to my mind is how am I going to cover all that in one year!! :ohmy: :svengo: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori D. Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Wow Lori, when you type it out like that the first thought that comes to my mind is how am I going to cover all that in one year!! :ohmy: :svengo: LOL! Well, of course you DON'T try and cover it all! :laugh: I misunderstood -- I thought you were looking for a list of topics to CHOOSE from! :thumbup1: Just go and have FUN and hippity-hop through the list, skipping past spots of non-interest, and pausing here and there, where your DC have interests. Enjoy! Warmest regards, Lori D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thowell Posted January 23, 2013 Author Share Posted January 23, 2013 Oh great! I am actually thinking if it takes a little more than a year that should be fine. Dd12 is doing Abeka's Biology this year and she is really enjoying it and getting alot out of it. So if we do Physical science in 8th and 9th that will leave her 10th for Chemistry, 11th for Biology advanced and 12th for Physics. I think that will cover everything. I really like the looks of the CK-12 Flex book linked above. I am thinking of using that as a spine and then pulling in alot of hands on from some of the resources everyone has listed. I want to keep the last 6-9 weeks reserved for a good science project for them. All of the suggestions have really got my wheels turning now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsjoy Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Friendly Chemistry was a good fit for 8th grade. We're in lesson 21/32. The 9 year old tags along where fun. Christian Kids Explore Chemistry or Christian Kids Explore Physics is a spine if you need more for the 9 year old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosepetal Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Physical Science is a lite overview of Chemistry and Physics topics. Check out the table of contents in various middle school physical science textbooks for topic ideas, but below are a few ideas. Also look at the Rader's Science 4 Kids websites for topics and basic text for your 9yo: Chem4Kids; Physics4Kids; Geography4Kids (earth science and weather); Cosmos4Kids; Biology4Kids. The Reader's Digest: How Science Works has great 2-page spreads on chemistry and physics topics, with lots of great ideas for experiments. And some of the TOPS units and Educational Insight's Adventures in Science kits are good. MATTER solid liquid gas atom/molecule mass density CHEMICAL REACTIONS & SOLUTIONS periodic table of elements chemical bonding mixtures solutions compounds suspensions crystals acids and bases thermodynamics ENERGY FORCE & MOTION inertia potential energy heat expansion/contraction conduction convection radiation friction action/reaction velocity and acceleration gravity forces laws of motion work LIGHT & SOUND electromagnetic spectrum reflection refraction color lenses waves/particles vibration pitch and tone AIR & WATER pressure water cycle floating and sinking surface tension cohesion/adhesion ELECTRICITY & MAGNETISM poles and fields static electricity current electrical chemistry charge resistance SIMPLE MACHINES FLIGHT / ROCKETRY Are Chem4Kids; Physics4Kids; Geography4Kids (earth science and weather);Cosmos4Kids; Biology4Kids. enough with some Science documentaries for Grade 4 and 5(STEM Career)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori D. Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Are Chem4Kids; Physics4Kids; Geography4Kids (earth science and weather);Cosmos4Kids; Biology4Kids. enough with some Science documentaries for Grade 4 and 5(STEM Career)? First, gently, and JMO: at grade 4/5 I REALLY don't think you need to worry about STEM career curriculum. ;) I personally don't think I'd worry about getting STEM-career-serious until high school. What I WOULD do is use these years to delve deep into science topics of interest, do science fair projects, and do lots of experiments, read lots of books from the library, what science videos, and keep that love of learning alive. [End of my opinionated aside. LOL] I think you could certainly use the Rader websites you linked as a "spine", and enjoy going deeper with documentaries, library books, and experiments. The Rader websites make a nice list of topics to make sure to hit on in each subject area, but they don't go very deep. Have fun adding on. And enjoy your science adventures together! Warmest regards, Lori D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rosepetal Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 First, gently, and JMO: at grade 4/5 I REALLY don't think you need to worry about STEM career curriculum. ;) I personally don't think I'd worry about getting STEM-career-serious until high school. What I WOULD do is use these years to delve deep into science topics of interest, do science fair projects, and do lots of experiments, read lots of books from the library, what science videos, and keep that love of learning alive. [End of my opinionated aside. LOL] I think you could certainly use the Rader websites you linked as a "spine", and enjoy going deeper with documentaries, library books, and experiments. The Rader websites make a nice list of topics to make sure to hit on in each subject area, but they don't go very deep. Have fun adding on. And enjoy your science adventures together! Warmest regards, Lori D. Thanks Lori D. I need your opinion about Time4learning Middle school Life Science curriculum .Kindly have a look and are these enough for Grades 4-6(Though they are meant for Grades 6,7 and 8 for T4L Users). Chapter 1: "Introduction to Living Things" Lesson Activity Name Type LA# Worksheet Characteristics of Living Things: Students will be able to differentiate between living and nonliving things based on characteristics common to living things, including growth and development, reproduction, cellular organization, use Characteristics of Living Things MSSC165 Authentic Task: Viruses MSSC634 Lesson Quiz: Characteristics of Living Things Life Cycles: Students will be able to distinguish between the different life cycles of various organisms, including complete and incomplete metamorphosis and human life cycles. Life Cycles MSSC166 Authentic Task: Life Cycle Examples MSSC721 Odyssey Writer: Research a Life Cycle MSSC516 Lesson Quiz: Life Cycles Stimuli and Behavior: Students will be able to predict how an organism will change its behavior given an external stimulus. Stimuli and Behavior MSSC167 Lesson Quiz: Stimuli and Behavior Homeostasis of Organisms and Feedback: Students will be able to predict how an organism's internal environment will respond given a stimulus. Homeostasis of Organisms and Feedback MSSC168 Lesson Quiz: Homeostasis of Organisms and Feedback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosepetal Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Sorry am unable to paste all lessons here:( but if anybody used T4L MS Science then suggest me.....Thanks..... Chapter 2: "Cells" Chapter 3: "Unicellular and Multicellular Organisms" Chapter 4: "Ecology" Chapter 5: "Population Ecology" Chapter 6: "Genetics" Chapter 7: "Evolution" Chapter 8: "Classification" Chapter 9: "Organs and Organ Systems" Chapter 10: "Human Health" Chapter 11: "Plants" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosepetal Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 and for Physical Science: Chapter 1: "Physical and Chemical Changes" Chapter 2: "Atoms, Elements, and Compounds" Chapter 3: "Mixtures and Solutions" Chapter 4: "The Periodic Table" Chapter 5: "Chemical Formulas and Reactions" Chapter 6: "States of Matter" Chapter 7: "Motion" Chapter 8: "Force" Chapter 9: "Gravity and Weight" Chapter 10: "Density and Buoyancy" Chapter 11: "Energy" Chapter 12: "Heat" Chapter 13: "Waves" Chapter 14: "Light" and many subtopics under main Topics..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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