Based on Faith Academy Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 We are using Abeka and have been for ages. My son and I both love using it. It does reteach punctuation every year. My son though just can't seem to memorize the key points in punctuation and capitalization. Do you have any methods you can recommend or any advice? This seems to be the one area of language he has trouble with. Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lily_Grace Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Editor In Chief books are great for that, but a little pricy. For a while I used to copy Failbook posts and CakeWrecks onto a word document for my son to go through. Having real life examples (that were often hilarious!) hit the point home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Have you look at Analytical Grammar? I will come back and edit to expound once I am on my computer, after I finish cooking breakfast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Take model sentences, from his grammar text and have him compose similar sentences, using his weekly spelling and vocabulary words One thing I learned recently was not to grade writing by grade level expectations. When assigning a paper, list just 10 thing the paper will be graded on, and mostly just grade those ten things. Make sure to include one or more punctuation topics in the list you design. Provide quick mini-lessons if necessary, before starting the paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trilliums Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Take model sentences, from his grammar text and have him compose similar sentences, using his weekly spelling and vocabulary words The Killgallon books have this kind of approach, although it does not integrate in the spelling and vocab. It teaches grammar along with punctuation through imitation. http://www.amazon.com/Sentence-Composing-High-School-Worktext/dp/0867094281/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1354566717&sr=1-5&keywords=killgallon Older son also used Easy Grammar Ultimate in Grade 9: http://www.amazon.com/Daily-Teaching-Lessons-Grammar-Ultimate/dp/0936981598/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1354566780&sr=1-1&keywords=easy+grammar+grade+9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 The Killgallon books have this kind of approach, although it does not integrate in the spelling and vocab. It teaches grammar along with punctuation through imitation. http://www.amazon.co...ords=killgallon Older son also used Easy Grammar Ultimate in Grade 9: http://www.amazon.co...grammar grade 9 I think Killgallon uses literature as models. I find it more efficient to use textbook and handbook sentences as MODELS. Models don't have to be pretty, they just need to be...well...models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WishboneDawn Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 One more choice is Jensen's Punctuation. Dry but straight forward with sentences taken from great literature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Academy Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 What about a book like Eats, Shoots & Leaves, for a humorous, narrative approach that might stick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Do you correct his punctuation in every.single.thing he writes, in every subject? And do you count his grade down for his mistakes? I'm just asking because sometimes people don't do that. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Based on Faith Academy Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 Have you look at Analytical Grammar? I will come back and edit to expound once I am on my computer, after I finish cooking breakfast. This seems like a great book but it seems to have too much "other" language. He has down the nouns, verbs, adjectives, and all others but he just can't seem to remember what needs to be capitalized and some types of punctuation to put around or in certain words in specific sentences( if that makes sense). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Based on Faith Academy Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 Do you correct his punctuation in every.single.thing he writes, in every subject? And do you count his grade down for his mistakes? I'm just asking because sometimes people don't do that. :-) Most definitely!!! We go over all his school work that he gets wrong along with any mistakes he makes. The problem that I am seeing is that he can't remember what gets capitalized or when a sentence needs a dash or parenthesis. He is getting better slowly but since this is something he has been taught every year I feel that somehow I am missing a step to help him get it and not forget it. Maybe I just need to print off some capitalization and punctuation work every day and have him do it with his normal language/ English work. I want his transition to college in a few years to be an easy one regarding what I have taught him and what he remembers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Based on Faith Academy Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 What about a book like Eats, Shoots & Leaves, for a humorous, narrative approach that might stick? While this would be good for me, this would make my son zone out. If would never get much from actually just reading about grammar because he is more of a hands-on kind of kid. Thank you though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Based on Faith Academy Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 Thank you for all of you who had suggestions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justasque Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Does he do much reading? Seeing it "right" is another way to help. At some point, it might be wise to teach strategies for checking his work rather than expecting memorization. That is, does he know where can he look up the rules if he is not sure? Does he know how to apply them if he has the reference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Mungo Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 This seems like a great book but it seems to have too much "other" language. He has down the nouns, verbs, adjectives, and all others but he just can't seem to remember what needs to be capitalized and some types of punctuation to put around or in certain words in specific sentences( if that makes sense). He may know the basics about a noun and verb. But, if he could parse antecedents, indirect objects and so forth, then he would be having less trouble with commas. Can he fully diagram? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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