Pen Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 For use in addition to MUS as our main program, do you recommend SM IP (intensive practice) or EP (extra practice)? This would be along with CWP. Or is CWP alone plenty without either IP or EP? I am not clear on whether IP is more rigorous than EP or just twice the amount? And I am not clear on whether there are things that would get covered by IP or EP that aren't in MUS plus CWP. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jennynd Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Ep align with textbook, workbook. About same level. Cwp is strictly word problem deeper than workbook. Ip has the typical concept practice,word problem which IMO is about the same as CWP Then u got challenge problem which is quite challenge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoo_keeper Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 IP is definitely more rigorous than EP. EP, in my understanding, is essentially more problems on the same level as the wb. CWP are harder and obviously in word format. IP is possibly the hardest, IMO, and contains some word problems. We do the tb, wb, CWP, & IP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 The EP books also don't have a lot more practice. In some cases it's a similar amount to the workbook; in some cases it's less. IP is definitely more rigorous than the EP or workbooks. The advantage since you're not using the textbooks is that the EP books have a brief overview of the topic, so there'd be some "teaching" there. The IP books only rarely have any teaching. I haven't seen the "new" CWP books. I think the first few word problems in the IP books are often easier than the CWP initial problems but the later word problems in the IP are similar to the challenge problems in CWP - and the Challenge problems in IP aren't in CWP at all :) IP gives you a broader overview than CWP - which is all word problems (in old version). EP is easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pen Posted March 16, 2012 Author Share Posted March 16, 2012 Thank you for all replies thus far. I now get that IP is more rigourous, but am still not clear on whether anything would be added by getting IP or EP on top of CWP plus MUS. bump up in case the "night crew" might have some more thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kesmom Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I'm wondering this myself, though thinking about IP vs CWP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imhim Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 IP can be hard, has some exercises that are approached differently than in the wkbkm, txbk. EP is not necessary of you do the rest (txbk, wkbk, CWP and IP) but since you are just supplementing, I do not know what to say. My dd thinks CWP is easier than IP :-)She is 8.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chepyl Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I think the IP is great for stretching. It covers the concepts in the text, then UPS the level a little. The word problems are a challenge, and the extra challenge problems are tough! My son love the challenges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoo_keeper Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I have no idea about what they'd add to MUS because I'm not familiar with that program. The CWP and IP are challenging in different ways. While the IP has some word problems (it's already been mentioned that CWP has tougher problems), IP has problems that can't be written out, like pattern recognition, visual puzzles, mazes, scale problems, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pen Posted March 17, 2012 Author Share Posted March 17, 2012 Aha! I did not realize that IP had word problems. Now I am thinking to not get the next level of CWP, but only to try IP. How does that sound? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoo_keeper Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Ugh, I really couldn't tell you which one we'd pick if only doing one. CWP contains worked examples, so they kind of teach the children how to approach the problems. IP just throws them right in. Plus, I don't want to mislead you, there are word problems in IP, but most are accompanied by some little graphic that helps the child visualize the problem (not so with CWP, where it's almost always words only). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyDays Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 If you're doing only one, and not using other Singapore materials, I might go for the CWP. Like PP said, it has examples, and it really is a bit more standalone. The IP is a great product, but it has limited teaching in it, so it may be frustrating if you get to a concept you haven't covered or aren't sure what they're trying to do. Just my two cents. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 . Plus, I don't want to mislead you, there are word problems in IP, but most are accompanied by some little graphic that helps the child visualize the problem (not so with CWP, where it's almost always words only). I don't remember visuals in the IP word problems. In 5A mult/div of 2 digit #s, there are 15 word problems after 10 numbered problems of more basic arithmetic, including showing the distributive property for multiplication as a mental technique. The CWP does have a couple of examples before starting problems though and it is rare that the IP has examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Wife Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 I don't remember visuals in the IP word problems. In 5A mult/div of 2 digit #s, there are 15 word problems after 10 numbered problems of more basic arithmetic, including showing the distributive property for multiplication as a mental technique. Perhaps the poster who said that has only used the lower levels of IP. In the 1A/B levels, there are more visuals in the IP than the CWP. The same is not true for the higher levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoo_keeper Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Yep, we're just finishing up 2nd grade, I haven't seen the upper levels yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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