newhsmommy Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 I have a 3rd and 6th grader next year doing SOTW 2 at the same time. I'm "good" with getting reading material for the 3rd grader but, how do I make it challenging for the 6th...specifically the reading suggestions? The activity book is geared towards 2-5th grade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeetime Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 My suggestion would be to read SOTW together, then have the 6th grader do logic stage type study as suggested in WTM. Cross reference to Kingfisher or another History encyclopedia, complete an outline of the reading, write significant dates on the timeline and do outside reading, research etc. In WTM I believe she talks briefly about how to use SOTW in the logic stage, and extensively about how to study the same time period with different ages. Mine are still both in grammar- so no BTDT- but that's how I *plan* to do it when mine are all in different stages! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzannah Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 We used SOTW this year with 1st and 6th. We pretty much did it the way the previous poster described it. We would read the chapter together, discuss the reading together, did mapwork together, DD did a narration, DS filled out forms I made for Significant Men/Women of the Middle Ages, placed figures on timeline, read section from Kingfisher.... I would have had him outline but we were also doing Classical Writing: Homer and Omnibus II so I decided to let it slide. In addition to Omnibus readings, DS also read several suggestions from the AG. All in all, I think it worked fine. SOTW provides the spine. Kingfisher and the further readings provide more information from different sources. Discussion and writing assignments get them to think and sythesize that information. Blessings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcconnellboys Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 If you're pulling books geared toward older kids, writing some about what you read, outlining some from a source book, perhaps even using the tests for SOTW, then I think you should be good. You could obtain a map skills book that's geared toward the middle ages if you want maps more complex than those used in SOTW, or create your own map work. Here are some of the books I'm using along with our encyclopedia readings next year: Review with “Fall of Rome†- 395 - 410 A.D. Tales of King Arthur, retold by Felicity Brooks (Usborne - use who’s who at end for memory work) The King Who Was and Will Be: The World of King Arthur and His Knights, Kevin Crossley-Holland (use Arthur books over course of first two weeks for lit and reading) Lancelot, Hudson Talbott (simple) Young Arthur, Robert D. San Souci (simple) Magic in the Mist, Margaret Kimmel (Wales - simple) A History of Britain through Art, Jillian Powell (4-7) King Arthur and His Knights of the Round Table, Sidney Lanier, ed. “Early Britainâ€- c. 449 A.D. (Celts, Barbarians, Beowulf) Ancient World Leaders: Attila the Hun, Bonnie Carman Harvey The Celts, Hazel Martell Scottish Myths and Legends, K. E. Sullivan Kings and Queens for God: Matilda of Scotland Beowulf the Warrior, Ian Serraillier Famous Men of the Middle Ages: Intro I, Intro II, Ch. 1, Ch. 2, Ch. 3 read from History of the Kings and Queens of England, David Williamson “Christianity in Britain†- c. 596 A.D. (Augustine, Monasteries) Augustine: The Farmer’s Boy of Tagaste, P. de Zeeuw Watch “Cathedrals†video Famous Men of the Middle Ages: Ch. 7; 21; 25 “Byzantine Empire†Famous Men of the Middle Ages: Ch. 6 Anna of Byzantium, Tracy Barrett “Rise of Islam†- 570 - 632 A.D. Famous Men of the Middle Ages: Ch. 8 “Great Kings of France†- 690 - 814 A.D. (Charles the Hammer; Charlemagne) Kings and Queens for God: Charlemagne The World in the Time of Charlemagne, Fiona Macdonald Famous Men of the Middle Ages: Ch. 9, 10, 24 “Arrival of Norsemen†- 790 - 1000 A.D. (Gods, Eric the Red and Son) A History of Britain through Art, continue (8-9) Explore-a-Maze, Robert Snedden - Leif Eriksson Famous Men of the Middle Ages: Ch. 12, 13 Viking Life, John Guy (w/ questions) BBC Fact Finders: Vikings, Peter Chrisp Leif the Lucky, Ingri and Edgar D’Aulaire (simple) Inside Story: A Viking Town, Fiona Macdonald If You Were There: Viking Times (w/ fold out game board), Antony Mason Usborne Starting Point: Who Were the Vikings? (Simple)Jane Chisholm and Struan Reid Usborne Illustrated World History: The Viking World, Philippa Wingate Black Fox of Lorne, Marguerite de Angeli The Story of Rolf and the Viking Bow, Allen French “First English Kings†- 866 - 1066 A.D. (Alfred, Battle of Hastings) Augustine Came to Kent, Barbara Willard A History of Britain through Art, continue (10-11) Battles of the Medieval World, Kelly Devries, et al - Hastings Kings and Queens for God, Carol Greene: Oswald, Guaire Aidni, Alfred the Great, Edward the Confessor Famous Men of the Middle Ages: Ch. 14, 15, 16, 18, 19 continue w/ Kings and Queens of England “England After Conquest†(Language, Serfs, Noblemen, Stone Castles) Eyewitness Knight, applicable sections Eyewitness Castle (except specific countries) Ultimate Explorer: Castles, Susan Churchill (w/ kit) A History of Britain through Art, continue (12-13) The Castle, A Pop-Up Fantasy, Tom Partridge The Big Book of Knights and Castles, Barbara Weisberg Castle, Struan Reid Scottish Castles, Gordon Jarvie Queen Eleanor: Independent Spirit of the Medieval World, Polly Brooks continue w/ Kings and Queens of England “Knights and Samurai†- to 1560 A.D. The World of the Medieval Knight, Christopher Gravett If You Lived in the Days of the Knights, Ann McGovern (simple) The Samurai’s Tale, Erik Haugaard In the Time of the Knights, Shelley Tanaka (simple) Exploring History: Ancient Weapons, Will Fowler “Age of Crusades†- 1031 - 1099 A.D. (Jerusalem, Saladin, El Cid) Battles of the Medieval World, continued - Hattin and Arsuf; Constantinople Famous Men of the Middle Ages: Ch. 17 The Beduins’ Gazelle, Frances Temple continue w/ Kings and Queens of England “New Kind of King†- 1189 - 1215 A.D. (Richard the Lionhearted, John Lackland, Magna Carta, Robin Hood) Living History: Fourteenth-century Towns, Ed. John D. Clare The Legend of Robin Hood, Ed. Dami Editore (Barnes & Noble illus. edition) The Canterbury Tales, retold by Geraldine McCaughrean Understanding the Canterbury Tales, Clarice Swisher The Canterbury Tales, Chaucer (Penguin Classics) If You were There: Medieval Times, Antony Mason (w/ fold-out game board) Magna Carta, Clyde Bulla (L) Famous Men of the Middle Ages: Ch. 23 The Adventures of Robin Hood, Roger Lancelyn Green The Merry Adventures of Robin Hood, Howard Pyle (RD’s Young Readers) Adam of the Road, Elizabeth Gray (and on tape) Castle Diary: The Journal of Tobias Burgess, Page, Richard Platt continue w/ Kings and Queens of England “Diaspora†- 70 - 1306 A.D. Milk and Honey, A Year of Jewish Holidays, Jane Yolen “Mongols†- 1167 - 1294 A.D. (Genghis Khan) Battles of the Medieval World - Leignitz “Mysterious East†- 1271 - 1924 A.D. (Marco Polo, Forbidden City) Explore-a-Maze - Marco Polo The World in the Time of Marco Polo, Fiona Macdonald The Adventures of Marco Polo, As Dictated in Prison to a Scribe in the Year 1298, What He Experienced and Heard During His Twenty-four Years Spent in Travel through Asia and at the Court of the Kublai-Khan, ed. for the modern reader by Richard J. Walsh - primary source “First Russians and Germany†- 860 - 1584 A.D. (Ivan the Great and Ivan the Terrible; Holy Roman Empire) Forests of the Vampire, Slavic Myth, Charles Phillips and Michael Kerrigan The White Stag, Kate Seredy Battles of the Medieval World - Peipus Kings and Queens for God: Vladimir, Elizabeth, Jadwiga, Katarina, Anastasia Romanov Famous Men of the Middle Ages: Ch. 4; 20; 22 “Ottoman Empire†- 1250 - 1566 A.D. (Constantinople; Suleiman) Battles of the Medieval World - Constantinople (198) “Plagueâ€- 1320 - 1351 A.D. Crispin: The Cross of Lead, Avi "France and England at War†- beg. 1413 A.D. (Henry V; Agincourt; Joan of Arc) A History of Britain through Art, continue (14-17) Battles of the Medieval World - Agincourt continue w/ Kings and Queens of England “War of the Roses†- 1422 - 1485 A.D. The Black Arrow, Robert Louis Stevenson continue w/ Kings and Queens of England “Spain and Portugal†- 1419 - 1492 A.D. (Ferdinand and Isabella; Henry the Navigator) applicable pages from Columbus and the Renaissance Explorers, Colin Hynson (20-23) Exploring Africa, Hazel Martell and Gerald Wood ( 12-21, carrying over into next two weeks) Don Quixote Around the World in a Hundred Years, From Henry the Navigator to Magellan, Jean Fritz “Africa†- 1000 - 1526 A.D. (Gold, Salt, Ghana, Mansa Musa) Continue w/ Around the World in a Hundred Years City States of the Swahili Coast, Thomas Wilson History of the World: Africa (8th to 18th Century) “Moghul Indiaâ€- 1526 - 1556 A.D. (Akbar) continue w/ applicable pages from Columbus and the Renaissance Explorers (24-27) Explore-a-Maze - da Gama Continue w/ Around the World in a Hundred Years “Columbus, Vespucci and Magellan†- 1492 - 1520 A.D. continue w/ applicable pages from Columbus and the Renaissance Explorers (2-15) Westward with Columbus, John Dyson Christopher Columbus: Explorer of the New World, Peter Chrisp Magellan and the Exploration of South America, Colin Hynson (w/ questions) Christopher Columbus: First Voyage to America, From the Log of the ‘Santa Maria’ - primary source Explore-a-Maze - Columbus and Magellan The Great Adventure of Christopher Columbus, a Pop-Up Book, Jean Fritz Columbus, Ingri and Edgar D’Aulaire Continue w/ Around the World in a Hundred Years “Americas†- 600 - 1525 A.D. (Mayans, Incas) Pyramids, Anne Millard, pgs. 42-55 Looking at Aztec Myths and Legends: Land of the Five Suns, Kay McManus “Renaissance†- c. 1456 A.D. Watch “Masterworks of Western Art: The Northern Renaissance†video Living History: Italian Renaissance, ed. John D. Clare Eyewitness Renaissance Read from Famous Men of the Renaissance and Reformation Continue Renaissance (New Universe; Copernicus) - 1543 - 1609 A.D. Continue Famous Men “Martin Luther†- from 1509 A.D. Luther the Leader, Virgil Robinson Continue Famous Men “Reformation and Counter-reformation†- from 1545 A.D. Continue Famous Men continue w/ Kings and Queens of England “England’s Greatest Queen†- 1547 - 1603 A.D. A History of Britain through Art, continue (20-25) Mary, Bloody Mary, Carolyn Meyer continue w/ Kings and Queens of England “Shakespeare†- 1564 - 1616 A.D. The Young Person’s Guide to Shakespeare, Anita Ganeri (w/ CD) Shakespeare’s Theatre, Andrew Langley Tales from Shakespeare, Charles and Mary Lamb Shakespeare’s Globe, An Interactive Pop-Up Theatre, Toby Forward Beautiful Stories from Shakespeare for Children, E. Nesbit Shakespeare’s Stories: Comedies, retold by Beverly Birch Oxford School Shakespeare: Hamlet, Antony and Cleopatra, Romeo and Juliet, Macbeth, A Midsummer Night’s Dream, Twelfth Night, The Tempest, and Much Ado About Nothing, all edited by Roma Gill Macbeth, ed. Nicholas Brooke “Exploration of Northern N. America†- 1534 - 1608 A.D. (Cartier) continue w/ Columbus and the Renaissance Explorers (16-19; 28-31, plus questions at end) “Spain and England’s War†- 1588 A.D. continue w/ Kings and Queens of England Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzannah Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Wow! That's terrific Regina! Do you have something like that set-up for next year--Early Modern? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KathyBC Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 You could use the Sonlight Core 6 reading list for book titles and do IEW-style writing using a history encyclopedia, as Suzannah and Coffeetime mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Testimony Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 I have the sixth grader do an outline of his readings and do a timeline. He is reading Our Island Story along with SOTW vol. 2. He is doing a comparison of how the two are similar and different. Sometimes, the two books do not give the same information about the same character. That has caused him to question the two authors. He is now in the middle of going to the library to do research on history of the Angles and the Saxon because Our Island Story has a different account to SOTW. I like doing it this way because it forces my sixth grader to think, but now he wants to do his own seperate study. He realizes that information is not always given the same and why that is. Since sixth grade is logic stage, I think that it is a good idea to put another history text before them. Don't purchase another book. Get it from the library. Then have the child compare the two accounts of history. I like that because he started to question well which history account is accurate or why is one person saying this as oppose to the other is saying another. We look at what sources is each other using? From what perspective is that information being given? It is just another way of developing the critical thinking in the child. Blessings in your homeschooling journey. Sincerely, Karen http://www.homeschoolblogger.com/testimony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neesek Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Biblioplan schedules readers for gr. 1-2, 3-5, and 5+ to go along with SOTW and MOH. They also schedule family read-alouds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcconnellboys Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Not yet, LOL, but ask me about next February and I probably will have it.... I have a list of books I used for early modern before, but more of those were for younger children, although those I used for read alouds could be used as read alones for logic stage. I'll PM it to you.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovedtodeath Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 I have the sixth grader do an outline of his readings and do a timeline. He is reading Our Island Story along with SOTW vol. 2. He is doing a comparison of how the two are similar and different. Sometimes, the two books do not give the same information about the same character. That has caused him to question the two authors. He is now in the middle of going to the library to do research on history of the Angles and the Saxon because Our Island Story has a different account to SOTW. I like doing it this way because it forces my sixth grader to think, but now he wants to do his own seperate study. He realizes that information is not always given the same and why that is. Since sixth grade is logic stage, I think that it is a good idea to put another history text before them. Don't purchase another book. Get it from the library. Then have the child compare the two accounts of history. I like that because he started to question well which history account is accurate or why is one person saying this as oppose to the other is saying another. We look at what sources is each other using? From what perspective is that information being given? It is just another way of developing the critical thinking in the child. Blessings in your homeschooling journey. Sincerely, Karen www.homeschoolblogger.com/testimony :iagree:This is my plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie in MN Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 My favorite is notebooking. Have the student create a notebook page showing what he learned. My son does his on the computer, and adds Google images for maps, photos, etc. I feel like he "owns" the knowledge better when he does this. I guess it's a form of written narration. Outlining could do the same thing, I suppose, but I haven't gotten him to "engage" with outlining because he likes to narrate in humorous ways, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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