Oops--I just answered your question in the original thread. Just so you know! But it wasn't too helpful, I'm afraid. :)

I don't think there's much. You can get your free response booklet, but it has no comments or grading. You can request a rescore of the multiple choice, if you think you should have done better. But that's about it. We felt this way last year. Ds made a 4 on Comp Sci AB. We kept wondering, "Hmm...what was wrong?" We're still wondering, because I believe that he really knew his stuff well. But 4 is still a great score, and we've just tried to say, "Oh well." It would be nice if you could look at a detailed report, as with the SAT. After working so hard to prepare, you really want to know what you didn't get right.

I'm not doing the audit, but I've just got to say WOW that you are doing this, planning to teach in a co-op and considering submitting a syllabus for Lang & Comp. And you have how many children that are what ages?!?!? I can say that because I've got six kiddos and really can't imagine doing any of this. Good for you!!! And congrats on getting your audit done successfully. :)

Wow, Kareni, she did this as a junior? Latin Lit sounds soooo hard. I'd love to say that it's a goal for us (ha, I just mis-typed "goal" and wrote "gaol" instead. I think it's a Freudian slip!), but in truth I think it's more of a dream than a reachable goal. Hats off to your dd.

Congrats to your dd...and totally OT, but I just noticed your signature. So you are the author? That's impressive, too! Congrats on getting your book in the MP lineup!

Score finally came here today--ds was very relieved and happy to see the score (physics B) since he had a big "flub" during the test. Unfortunately this score doesn't really count for anything; he's taking the "C" exams next year. He did it as an end of the year test, and good prep for next year. I guess it was good prep; now he knows that even if he messes up he can re-do and still finish with a great result. This was the first test he's ever come away from feeling awful (how sad, right? :tongue_smilie:) I'm kind of glad he had some trouble with it; now maybe he can sympathize w/siblings a little more. And I'm afraid college won't be such a breeze, either!

That may be me. :blush: You do have to do both courses, though you can get away without having alg. II--but you would have to study logarithms and have a decent working knowledge of them.

Hmm, scores in the SW but we're still waiting in MN.... We've had company the last week and so I was eager to get back on the board and hear if people were getting scores yet. The paper SAT II scores came...but AP is what we want to see!!!! Nice to see some of the reported scores posted here!

I thought that came through in your OP...I just wasn't quite sure what you were getting at in the middle. ;) Thanks for clarifying.

Janet, You might try Aquinas and the Summa Theologica if you are interested in this. Very complex & deep, but it sounds like what you're asking for. At any rate, it's interesting reading if you can do it.

okay, so I laughed at that one Do I? Hmm. I don't recall saying that, and I'm not sure that it's true. Janet brought up the soul, I said it's there at conception, you asked about twins.... That's how the conversation went. So you presume that you understand my beliefs, and even go so far as to reject them outright, when really you don't know anything about what I believe. I believe that people are different than animals. I believe that to be human means more than to have opposable thumbs and higher level reasoning skills. I believe that civilization cannot rightly be called that when people can rationalize disposing of human life at any stage of development or regression. If we can do that, then we are no longer human--at least according to my definition. If you are right, Phred, that there is no God, then the only prayer (tounge-in-cheek) that mankind has, and specifically that our civilization has, is a profound respect for the dignity of human life. Period. Protecting the unborn is not a Christian issue, it is a human issue. So maybe I lied before. I'd really like to know the answer to this too. But tomorrow is the 4th and I have guests coming to stay the week. So don't expect any profound answers very quickly.

I did the same. :) But I didn't think it answered Phred's question. Are you kidding? This thread went south a long time ago! :lol: That's admirable. I've been through a very similar process myself. We can "talk" anytime, if you'd like. Sometimes an IRL friend can be great, but sometimes it's easier to talk with someone not so immediate, kwim? Anyway, the offer stands.

I have no idea how this works. I'm sure there are theologians or better educated people than I who may have an answer. And there is a good chance that my original reply (to Janet) is not correct in terms of my (Catholic) beliefs. Perhaps I should look it up, so as to leave no confusion. More to the point, however, is that you are not sincerely interested in my answers, nor any other answers presented here. I don't see that you have contributed anything to the discussion other than rather mindless jabs here and there. I've responded to you, directly, plenty of times but you have never directly answered anything yet put to you. In fact, you haven't even answered indirectly. You talk in circles. I would call it circular reasoning, but there really isn't any reasoning involved. And for a person who has no belief in God, you are apparently strangely obsessed with inserting yourself in all conversations dealing with Him. But I begin to repeat myself.... Besides, what has the idea of the soul to do with the idea of abortion or anything else in the OP? Janet posed a question, which I honestly answered as far as I know to be correct. That's my only real interest in the question. Edit--Upon further consideration, I must say that I'm rethinking you, Phred. Since you are interested the the God subject, you may take some consolation in this: if nothing else, you have added given me impetus for much needed increase in prayer and deeper examination of my own beliefs. For this, I thank you very much. And I mean this most sincerely.

I appreciate your post very much because I think it exemplifies the very best of what this forum can offer: a place to genuinely question difficult subject matter. I’m so glad you posted! Your example of the fire is good food for thought. If my disabled grandma was on one side of the house, and my infant on the other, who would I save from the fire? I'm guessing I'd go for the baby. But there is an infinite difference between choosing to save the life of one over the other and intending to kill either through abortion or euthanasia. I'm not sure if choosing to save the baby from the fire is a matter of valuing one life more than another, but maybe it is. Doctors in front-line war situations would have a similar choice to make: which of these injured do I try to save? I'm sure that it's a choice that many people have to make even more commonly than war--I just don't know of them offhand. I'm not sure I exactly followed what you were trying to say here. You see that saving one over the other is *not* the same as abortion? I don't want to put words in your mouth. For me, the only consistent view is that life begins at conception. So that rules out any embryonic research as a violation against life. How do you define the beginning of life? I believe that both life and the soul co-exist from the moment of conception. Do others believe that a soul is imparted at some later date? Janet, thank you again for your post! I applaud you for "thinking out loud".

I think maybe I'm getting it

Well done, ds of JFS! Congrats to both.

Oh man, after reading about some of your in-law habits, I am floored. Wow. I think I'd have to move. Remudamom, you are so correct!

This is inane. Ignorance revealed. Or perhaps it was meant in a purely snide way? What's a synonym for inane? I'll choose asinine. I don't have a problem with you questioning religion; I have a problem with you spewing at people. And the herd thing, well that isn't inane or asinine; it's more like paranoia: Psychiatry; a mental disorder characterized by systematized delusions and the projection of personal conflicts, which are ascribed to the supposed hostility of others, sometimes progressing to disturbances of consciousness and aggressive acts believed to be performed in self-defense or as a mission. And as far as calling names, you've forgotten the first rule of logic, which is: "I'm rubber, you're glue, bounces off me, sticks on you." Or even better, "Takes one to know one." Religion: 4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion. Religionist: one who follows a religion. And Peek-a-Boo and I did not conspire within the herd to figure that out. We both actually noticed it independently of one another. Maybe that's significant. Phred, it's been fun--but it hasn't been real. I'll have to catch you on the flipside, cuz I'm outta here.

We live near my in-laws, and they often come by to drop off things. My father-in-law, of his own accord, began the welcome habit of ringing the front door bell twice, giving me notice of exactly who is at the door and allowing me to instantly decide whether to go to the door myself or send an emissary--depending on my state of dress, or lack thereof. I heartily appreciate this little double-ring gesture and the courtesy it affords. My mother-in-law, however, has not been initiated into this ritual. This woman is very dear, and a most wonderful mother-in-law in almost every respect. In fact, she is such a good mother-in-law that it is rather shabby that I should criticize her for such a minor--if rather peculiar--annoyance. But here goes. She always comes through our garage to our kitchen door--this, even though the garage door is shut, and the side door (leading from the sidewalk to the garage) is closed--she just lets herself into my garage. Then she taps at the kitchen door once, maybe twice--just loud enough that I might possibly hear it from two feet away. Even then I will be in the midst of wondering, "Did I just hear a knock?" when the door creaks slowly open and a head pokes in. I hear a voice saying, "Anybody home?" and then I know: ahh, it's MIL. It's silly, but I'm quite peevish about this. So then one day I'm on the couch (from whence I have a clear view of the front door). Suddenly I hear a tap, tap, tap apparently coming from the sidelight/window beside the front door. Just as I'm wondering, "Did somebody just knock on the window by the door?", I see a face peek through the window, and I know: it's MIL! She's come to the front door! But alas, she still refused to ring or knock in the usual way. And after she left, I happened to notice that my garage door had been standing wide open, just waiting for such an arrival as herself. But she chose this day to use the front door. Today she stopped in to leave a gift (Happy anniversary to me! And am I an ungrateful complainer or what?). I was on the back porch, scrubbing my window screens. [Did I just say I was on the back porch scrubbing my screens? Insert uproarious laughter here.] Dd was inside the house when suddenly the door creaked and MIL appeared bearing gifts. No knock at all. Dd swears it. It makes my toes curl. But the little box of Choxie chocolate does look tasty. So I'm gonna hush now.

I understand delays in posting. I was referring to the fact that you were not directly responding to the issues.

That's an impressive achievement for a 14 year old--you are rightfully proud!

Great reply, Martha. Unfortunately, it seems that Phred is more interested in getting a response than engaging in enlightening exchange. It's easy to hurl out a bunch of rather stale rhetoric; it actually requires thought to defend it--and I don't see that happening. If you want to bring up the issues, why not actually talk about them? :confused1: Phred, you sucked me in. I had higher hopes. It's so hard to find a decent argument these days. *sigh*

Great news, Hilary!!!