Sometimes they are. But there are a lot of students from underrepresented groups who ARE trying to show up for class and do the homework. I'm talking about the ones who aren't even bothering to show up. I would rather prioritize the ones who are.

One way that I'd like to see cost reduced (for those who need or want it) is some sort of public service program where if you work (salaried, of course) ____ time with good reviews, you get ____ vouchers/tuition reduction at public U's.

Curtail? No. But I see students ... well, that's generous ... enrollees ... in my class, who have two straight semesters of <1.0 gpa and are being given ANOTHER chance, with extra support. For these, the problem typically IS that they have not been trying. When I see someone who attended <50% of the classes last semester and failed everything back in my class, I wonder why. Why?! The people who had something like a 1.4 often recover. But not the ones who are really, really low. I'm okay with second chances. I love second chances and I love that we give them. But we could save a fair amount by stopping trying to stuff people through who aren't even showing up. Don't kick them out forever. But a semester off for the first sub 1.0 semester and two for the second, and continued increasing, seems totally reasonable. They eat up a massively disproportional amount of time from student services, trying to track them down for meetings when I do early reports for failing students.

To answer this question: Many universities (including public ones) are becoming increasingly tuition-driven as the sources for funding dry up. Also, the population of college students is not increasing. The universities, therefore, are scrambling for students. So they are courting students, trying to get them to commit to their school. And yes, the students themselves are usually not driven by academics, but rather by cool stuff in the student union and how they "feel" when they tour the school, or by athletics, or other amenities.

I would love to see moves to make the cost of education more affordable. I am singularly unimpressed by the moves to make the cost of credentials more affordable. They are not synonymous, and credentials are far more easily measured. :(

Remember that everything is an approximation. Everything. Including the amount of movement you do and the amount of calories in an item. Option: Split it the way that they say. Mark "your portion". Eat it over two-three meals on the same day. Just enter it once. It doesn't matter whether each amount is in the right "meal" for the day. When I was still using MFP I combined everything into one meal. And frankly, if you eat it over two days and enter half each day, it really, really doesn't matter (in the long term) whether one day was really 60% and the next 40%.

That would be my guess. Or especially that they don't end up with something like a 9th grade earth science/general science as their 3rd science, followed by a 9th grade physical science and a 10th grade biology.

Or sometimes a 4-year bachelor's/master's program.

"An advanced course contains content beyond that required by the OGT and is designed around benchmarks at the 11th and/or 12th grade Ohio Academic Content Standards in Science." I googled and found a few Ohio schools that have their students do bio/chem/phys so I'd say you're fine.

Long list of books involving math and art -- you may find something useful: http://www.math.nus.edu.sg/aslaksen/teaching/maa/refs.html This free math for liberal arts textbook has a fractals unit: https://aimath.org/textbooks/approved-textbooks/lippman/

Little Britches series Understood Betsy Thimble Summer The Good Master James Herriot books Children of Willow Farm

Murderous maths? They've got some topic-specific ones (like the Phantom X, Fiendish Angletron), but also some more general ones.

Ya. At some point, though (forgot whether it was in that book or the sequel Belles on their Toes), they mention that one of the reasons was because he knew he had a bad heart and was trying to get the kids as far ahead as possible before he dropped dead. It was rather unusual for a woman to do what Mother did and just take over the company there.

They probably did line-by-line edits of that too. Edit: Stepford Children?

What. What. What in the ever-living hell. At least those two asshats are off the force. But it seems that many cops showed up at the hospital to try to get her to not press charges in the first place.

Heh, the differences by state are interesting. In my state, you can use any 48 hours or a test to show that you're literate and numerate to a sufficiently high degree. Although I think it's pretty sad it takes 48 credit hours to tell that you're literate/numerate.

For you specifically, you might be okay. For someone who already has a bachelor's, they usually count the "hours attempted" as general electives for the second degree, so you still get charged if you go over even if very few of those counted for anything useful. Sometimes they will reset and sometimes they will not. Sometimes you can appeal and sometimes you cannot. Many places will exempt hours specifically earned in dual enrollment. Also, holy cow Florida is TIGHT. You're going to get charged even if you take 8 semesters of 17-18!

Saxon honestly seems to be kind of a security blanket for you. Try out the other program. Just try it. Give him a year's worth -- and at the end, see how he's doing, and how he can compute/solve problems. You can always pick the drill back up if it's not working. But give it a try first.

Ya. But to be actually working at a well-above-average level in university and graduate at 18 requires nature AND nurture.

I agree here. I certainly, absolutely would not advocate a "spray and pray" approach to out of reach schools. But if there is one, specific school that a student absolutely has fallen in love with, I would much rather spend the money in high school to see if it's at all possible, than to wonder about it for years later.

No :( :( :( Math can be so much fun! Attolia, I have a PhD in math and I would seriously rather watch paint dry than try to learn from Saxon. It would have killed my enjoyment of math. I don't think it's a horrible program and it can be great for the right learners. But you're describing the exact kid it's a bad fit for. He doesn't need the repetition Saxon has, and honestly he will probably get enough repetition if he's in a curriculum more aimed at his style of learning. What he needs to learn is that math is not supposed to be easy and tedious. This is a problem a lot of mathematically gifted kids run into, because they are so used to it being easy that by the time they get to something that's actually challenging they have no idea how to think hard about math anymore. Then they decide "Oh I guess I wasn't as smart at math as I thought I was". I don't have a specific "you should definitely use this" because he's in 5/4. I would seriously consider Beast Academy if you can swing the cost. The Mathematical Reasoning program from the Critical Thinking company may also fit and is a lot cheaper. I would look very hard at AOPS in the long run -- it is the curriculum I would have thrived with, had it been around when I was the right age. Edit to respond to your edit: But didn't you say that Saxon 5/4 was also way too easy for him? If he worked through BA 3-5, he'd be ready for pre-algebra, and if he worked through Saxon 5/4, 6/5, and 7/6, he'd also be ready for pre-algebra, so it certainly wouldn't be slowing him down. But I'd definitely look at their placement tests anyway.

Brilliant analogy. Also, consider intended careers and how much the specific school is necessary. If I live 6 miles from where I work and can ride a bike if my car breaks down, that $500 beater is a lot better deal than if I need to drive 40 miles each way. For example, someone who wants to be an school teacher needs a school with a good regional reputation and a high placement rate, but once that's achieved, a lower cost is probably much better than an increased prestige level. Someone who wants to go into academia, on the other hand, really should shoot for the best school that they can possibly afford.

Especially if you liked your CC, consider transferring classes back anyway and getting the degree after transfer -- most are open to this. My youngest brother transferred the 4 credits (speech and PE) he was missing back and did it. It helps with their numbers. Due to political BS, CC's are getting a large amount of criticism for "not graduating" students. As you might have guessed from the first four words of that sentence, I think this is entirely unjustified -- if a student enters, takes a semester or two, and then transfers to a university, I think the CC has done a fine job even without a "degree". I feel the same about someone who enters, takes basic math and ESL classes, and then gets a better job (which was their original goal) and leaves. I'll end the rant here, and just leave you with -- if reasonable, give your CC a hand with appeasing their accreditors and get the AA afterwards.

Lack of rigor is a definite issue. Some of our feeder CC's are just fine and some are definitively not. By state law, we need to treat them all the same, and cannot decline credits from any. We aren't allowed to TELL the students "Uh, your C in college algebra from x CC *might* get you the knowledge that a D in the prerequisite to college algebra does here", but it is true. Very sadly, I've had several people change their degree focus because they just were so underprepared, and I *cannot* simply teach the prerequisite material in the class and give them credit for the class. If the professors at the transfer school start dropping major hints such as "Oh, we often recommend that students take ____ course again to make sure their foundation is solid, even though it transfers", do give it serious thought. It usually isn't a moneygrab, but rather a situation like this. That being said, it's often plenty to drop back one course in the sequence. The people who transfer in a trig or precalc class from these specific CC's and re-take it tend to do okay. Edit: But also, CC's vary! So do state schools! It is really important to treat each on a case-by-case basis.

There's also a big difference between someone who does Orgo and Physics during summers at the CC while attending FancyPants U and someone who just plain starts there -- the first looks like they're trying to get easy classes.