We like vocabulit: https://www.perfectionlearning.com/language-arts/vocabulary/vocabu-lit/grades-6-12.html Dd just needed a little more spelling, actually, and thought this was more interesting than a spelling book. The already done quizlet stuff is nice when we use it. We do most of the first two exercises verbally, and then she she does a page a day and takes a short answer test I create from quizlet: https://www.perfectionlearning.com/language-arts/vocabulary/vocabu-lit/grades-6-12/flashcards-games-and-tests.html You can look through the quizlet stuff and see what level words work best for you dc. Rainbow Resource sells it. We probably spend 20-30 minutes a week on vocabulary. HTH

I mapped it over the weekend against the most rigorous private school I could find that is sort of close to us. Four years is what they require, but start their students at their level- so if you start at French 2, you go from there, and can stop at AP Level if you get there before four years. That's specific to that school, though, which considers foreign language a core subject, and teaches Latin and French in elementary and middle school. That said, with my older kiddos, who graduated from PS, the ones that needed to take foreign language for credit in college took a placement test for their chosen language when they started (My older dd tested completely out, DS1 had to take it all- and they had the same teacher). Having a year off before such a test could be a problem for some.

I know they keep their class sizes small, and will run a class even if it only has a few students in it, so there just aren't a lot of people to ask. You could poke around over at their boards. I'm sure everything would be "positive", but you could as about specific instructors or search past threads. I've had some PMs with ones who have had their language classes, and the reviews were good. For whatever second-hand information is worth. :glare:

Here's Nebraska's offerings:https://highschoolstore.nebraska.edu/c-52-world-languages.aspx and BYU's: https://is.byu.edu/site/courses/index.cfm?school=hs#course=spanish|university=false|high-school=on|middle-school=false|continuing-education=false|ig=on|online=on|paper=on For Spanish, I would think you could find a dual-credit option, too.

Downside is time and the possibility that we may try online French (although WTM is probably out because of the time.) If she takes Latin 2 as a freshman... is that still 2 years of Latin for the transcript? French is the language she plans to take through to AP level.

Universities usually like to see three years of one language or two years each of two languages. YMMV. What language are you looking for? Some of the university based high schools go farther than homeschool providers.

I'm looking at DD's intended 9th grade schedule... and if you put Latin in the writing and grammar slots, count music lessons for the music theory (she's working through that textbook this year), and count team her sports and cross training as phys ed, the workload would be the same. So... I guess it isn't overwhelming. I looked up a couple of high end private high schools, though, and they only have 5 or 6 classes a day. They all generally require community service hours out side of class, and religion or ethics courses, though.

Yes, if you are doing it at home you have some flexibility, though. WTM has a reputation of being intensive.

That's a blended-text class. Perhaps they've covered that with the other book?

Maybe I'm taking it out of context? Maybe this is just a sample of what you can do? I can see a "speech and rhetoric" type class or a "research writing" class at the high school level. Beyond that, I think those "composition and grammar" type classes need to be in place of a lit class, not along-side it. Closely study some short stories and poetry with some solid grammar and comp instruction. Do it well, but don't over do it (Wait, isn't that kind of WWS?) ETA- To answer the question as to if high school students who join online classes know how to write, I suspect the answer is sometimes no. I've gotten high schoolers in my co-op classes where mom has thrown up her hands and said, "Time to outsource!"

There is some reading and writing, as well. I really felt like the oral fluency wasn't a strength, other than turns of phrase the instructor pointed out. To be honest, the number of students in the class really didn't give enough time for speaking. This would be a problem in any language course that meets for an hour a week, though.

Okay, I'm looking through the handbook for the WTMA, and this is a sample 9th grade schedule (below). This seems really heavy to me. I'm teaching some smart cookies at co-op this year, and they would never keep up with the book list in the Lit section if they had two other LA classes. Course Credit Taken At Area Ancient History 1 Academy Social Science Ancient Literature 1 Academy Language Arts Expository Writing III 1 Academy Language Arts Advanced Grammar .5 Academy Language Arts Biology with Lab 1 Academy Natural Science/Lab Algebra I 1 Academy Math Intro to Music Theory 1 Academy Fine Arts Phys Ed 1 Home P.E. German I 1 Academy Foreign Language

Online G3's instructor is native, but it really wasn't a good fit for us.

I think we made it to around chapter 11 or 12 before we stalled. We did the Minimus books and then it was end of the school year. We had also thought we were going to do an online class the next year, but didn't. I went ahead and ordered Second Form. We'll keep compacting through. It works and gets done. Although I think she'll slow down some in SF, dd will probably finish before the end of the year next year. I'll have her do the vocabulary and translations from BBLL2 until the end of the year.

Interesting. That might change things, then. How far along are you in BBLL2? I'm wondering if we ran up against a maturity issue or what. We really liked BBLL1.

Ack. I hit submit too soon. This is my inclination, as well. We started doing that with First Form, though, and she only gets about 70% on the quizzes (we had a year off from Latin). I think she still needs to study the lessons, but then maybe take the quiz the next day? Maybe for second form I'll get the videos and have her watch those the first day. Needed some feedback on this one. Hate to spend money when I own something already. :o)

Background: LL1, Minimus 1&2, 2/3 of LL2 (we got bogged down) + First Form (currently compacting our way through) Goal- Lukeion 1&2. My thought was to order Second Form for next year (I currently have a free shipping code), and then do Lukeion the following year. Starting to get push back from dd about First Form b/c it is 90% review, but it gets done and reviews grammar well for us, too. Should I 1.) compact further, including second form or 2.) go back to LL2 and go through it in a year. This is harder b/c I don't think there are any tests. (Did I over look them?) 3.) consider starting Lukeion next year. She'll be an 8th grader, and this is a third language. Thanks!

$6 copies of student text: https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/071671745X/ref=sr_1_2_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1486067535&sr=8-2&keywords=jacobs+geometry $20 copes of the teacher edition (which has answers and lesson scripts): https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00BHLMZJA/ref=tmm_pap_used_olp_sr?ie=UTF8&condition=used&qid=1486067535&sr=8-6 Double check ISBNs, but the covers are 2nd edition.

Older post, but helpful: http://forums.welltrainedmind.com/topic/422091-jacobs-geometry-2nd-edition-questions/

With a book that plays well with the course, ideally. :o. Honestly, I would be thrilled with a completely asynchronous option, like Derek Owens. I've been looking over some of the BYU and Nebraska online high school options for these types of things b/c you can stop and start at anytime. Most of them are fully online, but we really need a book.

Good point, if they are simply looking to avoid an extremely rowdy, socially liberal campus, that is something different. Where we are in the Midwest, "conservative" would typically mean religiously conservative.

ISU is not conservative if my newly graduated DIL is any indication. I think most Indiana schools will have pockets of conservatives. For most people, it's better to find your "tribe" with housing and clubs, regardless of where you go to school. Another thought- depending on what aspects of being conservative OP is looking for, they could run into problems with say, petroleum engineering and a YEC worldview. That may be why they aren't finding what they seek?

I've used the Glencoe guides, but they are mostly middle school. I found a typo (called Roald Dahl "Ronald") in the sample for the Smarr guides, so I didn't spend too much more time with them. Maybe I'll look at them again. Thanks!

Replying to myself. Not what I hoped- it only has guides for the ancient titles. Everything else is just summaries.

Has anyone seen this IRL? Would it work paired with some anthologies? I need accountability and essay ideas for co-op classes. http://www.rainbowresource.com/product/Guide+to+the+Great+Books/016175