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  1. I'm also going to warn against jumping around too much in math. I will use two or even three programs with a child, but I always have one that's solidly used year to year. People DO change and grow up, but not as quickly as 3 programs in 1-2 years. It sounds like the problem right now is A. Your son isn't enjoying how much CLE jumps around. B. It is moving too fast. For A, Do you think a mastery approach is better for this child? MIF is a great program, I use it with two kids, but it is very mastery and repetitive to the max. Which was an issue for you before. So will that be a problem again? Or is he perhaps just burnt out because it's spring? Do you think a summer break from CLE, using something else for the summer and then coming back to CLE in September would be a solution? We almost always summer bridge with something different, just to mix things up. For B. It may well be moving too fast because he is 1+ years ahead ;-). I get it. I have kids that zoom through math too. But I've found when I let them, they platau. Which doesn't necessarily mean don't let them, just don't be shocked if/when they stall for a few months (or a year). Some things are developmental. The solution for my family (after I got burned by a 4th grader in algebra and NOT ready) is to keep kids within one grade of their actual grade. And when they reach that limit, to go wider and deeper. Singapore word problem or challenge books, Life of Fred, and Beast Academy are all great options for kids that need to be slowed down while still challenged.
  2. This sounds like both of my 11 year olds- easy to offend/upset, easily overwhelmed/frustrated, snappish and rude to siblings, lethergic and not interested in exercise. The only thing you left out is inability to think, mine forget what a fraction is, forget how to spell things, forget their own name basically. I think you are doing great to get him outside. Fresh air and exercise is huge. So is getting enough sleep and regular healthy snacks. Honestly I just pretend they are toddlers again. How would I react to this meltdown if they were 3? Probably a snack, a nap, and a trip to the park. 🤣 Stay calm and wait it out mama. You arent alone.
  3. I behind by deciding on goals for each child. So for math maybe that's finish 5th grade in 5th grade. Or be ready for Algebra at the end of the year. Or be confident manipulating numbers 10 and under. For writing that may be learning to form letters or become confident in essays. It might even be as simple as "exposure to and appreciation of botony". Then I pick curricula or make a plan that will achieve said goal. I split that plan or curricula into three. One for each season (sept-nov, dec-feb, mar-may). I then split each season into 10 weeks, leaving off two weeks for breaks or holidays or catching up. I look at that and then adjust or combine kids as necessary to reflect reality. I do all of that in the spring. Then I plan in the minutae 5 weeks at a time. Hopefully during one of those handy 2 week breaks.
  4. I would do SS2. We did both SSL abd then LFC A. The three SS books took us 3 years, as we moved slow with lots of review. When we started LFC my kids were 10, 10, 9, and 8. Honestly, my 8 year old struggled a bit. It's a LOT of grammar, and very quickly. SS is much more fun and gentle.
  5. They have very generous samples in their website, including schedules. If I'm remembering correctly, they have a 3 and 4 day a week option (with the 4th day being largely rhetoric and sharing of work), to cover a lesson a week. I found the first two books easy to split into 2 days a week. The first day we covered the Talk About It and shorter grammar/writing exercises, the second day we did the longer writing project and the Speak It portion. Those took about 20-30 minutes, working with two kids at once. The next couple books I've found require 3-4 days per lesson, depending on the week. The 4th day is Speak It and any necessary finishing up. My oldest two kids did start skipping the Speak It, which made it 3 days, as they are both very involved in theatre. But I have my middle two kids do that section to help with enunciation, breath control, and all that other public speaking goodness. We only ever do 2 books a year. We spend the extra weeks polishing our favorite writing projects from the program, and doing other "fun" side writing.
  6. I've done it twice, with very different results. The first time was a "sunlight" basement that had teeny tiny windows (so no sunlight). It was only partially finished and while we put up bookshelves and a carpet, it wasn't inviting. I also had toddlers/babies. It lasted a week...maybe. it was dim and cold, and I needed to be able to multitask (watch littles out of the corner of my eye, feed snacks, do dishes, ect). The second time was a new split level home with a large room available off the backyard. It had real windows, a sliding glass door, and good heating. My kids were all 6 and over. I wasnt miltitasking anymore, tbh, because teaching 6 kids was enough!! I adore our school space now.
  7. I have one of those (also 11). Our perfect mix has been Math Mammoth for mastery and Teaching Textbooks for review. At first we did both every day, as a TT lesson only took about 15 min. But then TT started getting harder so we are now doing MM on M/W/F, and TT on T/The. TT does run about a grade below MM, it's worth noting. That works great for us as it's solid REVIEW, but if you want the same topics Id suggest going a grade up in TT. I've tried to use Math Mammoth alone, using pages from different sections to self spiral. It was a total fail, somehow not enough mastery OR review. 🙄.
  8. Probably because in my (relatively short) 7 years homeschooling I've never seen any topic get hysterical and mean faster than the CC debate. 😂 People have STRONG opinions. And moderators don't have time for it.
  9. With 6 kids some independance is necessary. I start giving my kids daily checklists in 2nd grade, with a lot of handholding. By 3rd I really do expect those items done by the end of the day (although I still CHECK every day). By 6th grade I'm checking weekly (and they can move items around). My current 3rd grader has: Daily reading minutes (30) Audiobook assignments Copywork Piano practice Latin review on Headventureland Typing practice Chores Hygene items like shower reminders My older kids have done math facts review either by game, flash cards, or worksheets (he already knows his facts) or written narrations (he's not ready) at this age. We had workbook spelling one year done mostly via checklist (it wasn't successful). I'll also start them off onath or a writing project and write to finish it up.
  10. Im only a but further than you, level 4. I guess it depends what you are trying to improve. For me, in level 1 (fable) my goal was just getting thoughts on paper, and the general idea that you could do so in several ways. It fulfilled that goal well in all 4 kids I've had use it (for the record in 3rd or 4th grade as reccomended). In the next two levels (narratives 1 and 2) I increased my goal to interesting writing. Varied sentences, use of description and dialogue, ect. My natural writer succeeded at this much more than my struggling writer. I can see her using the tools learned in other writing, but he needs to be reminded to use them. I've only used these books with these 2 kids, both in 4th (narrative 1) and 5th (narrative 2) grade at the time. Next year I'll have my upcoming 4th and 5th use them. The next level after this (Cheria) switches gears to essay writing. We had never done any essay writing before so this was the biggest seen improvement. I feel like both my kids can churn out an ok essay using this template with little stress or effort, and a good essay with a couple days and maybe for my struggler some sweat and tears. They were in the last half of 5th grade. The next book is another form of essay, and I'm looking forward to some variety from the praise, interpret, explain, compare, contrast, finish up format. I'm happy with, and plan on continuing the series. For the record I think it works best with kids on the later age of their recomended spectrum, though.
  11. For non-readish 9yo girls I'd reccomend lots of fun books, with an emphasis on longish series. Tuesdays at the Castle series Half Magic series Roald Dahl books A Little Princess The Secret Garden Understood Betsy Little House Series All of a Kind Family series Any Edith Nesbit, but maybe on audio because they can be harder.
  12. That's funny, my same-age daughter (not twins, adopted) is in MM as well. It's not Beast but MM is a strong program imo. It has a good balance of conceptual learning with a lot of algorithm practice and I like the focus on word problems.
  13. I always create yearly booklists for my kids. They are also allowed to free read/pick their own but this cures a lot of "I don't know what to read next". I pull from several sources. Ambleside online has great lists and is my main resource. But I'll also check bookshark and Goodreads lists for their age group. I try to have a wide variety of options. Classics, absolutely. Modern best sellers, sure. Genres I know they enjoy (fantasy for one, mystery for another, "18th century girls" for another). Historical fiction as long as it's also worthy. Next year we're doing middle ages and you bet there's a lot of Arthur and Robin on the lists! I also try to throw in some science and a few audiobook suggestions.
  14. Id pull her. I know this because last year I pulled my 3rd grader in April 😉 Either take an extra month of summer, or do some fun interest based stuff, and a few placement-finding activities and exams for next year, or just do a month of whatever you will do next year and have a head start. Personally I just folded mine into my already homeschooling kids. But don't stay in a miserable situation just to potentially save the teachers hurt feelings and cross some invisible finish line. No way.
  15. Thank you, that's really good to know. Right now she mixes TT with Math Mammoth because while she loves it, TT alone just doesn't seem like enough to me (not deep enough, not conceptual enough). But she's only in 5. It would be nice if she could use it at her high school math w/out a ton of supplementation.
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