I get this ALL the time. At least as often as I get doubtful or (rarely) negative comments. Times have certainly changed!

Still waiting for our scores - phooey! :tongue_smilie:

True, but ultimately I don't think this has anything to do with whether they grew up sitting through the service. You can find anecdotal evidence both ways. There are plenty of children who leave the church who grew up with special "fun" children's services, etc. My dh comes from at least a four generation long line of men who were there every time the church door opened. Me? I grew up in a more "don't force it, fun" atmosphere. I quit going in high school and college. I didn't return until after I met my dh.

My point is just that sometimes you don't feel like doing what you ought to do. You get up and go and are soon glad that you did. Learning some self-control as a child is a good thing. Good habits learned early can serve you well later in life. ETA: Lest i leave the impression that church is all about duty and habit for us, I want to clarify something. My children are usually very enthusiastic about going to church, because it is the best day of the week for them: no work, no school; they get to see all their friends, sing, partake in communion and a great lunch after the service; the boys play football, the girls do all sorts of things together, sometimes dancing or playing soccer with the boys, or gathering around the piano and singing. The sermon may not be their favorite part, but it isn't always mine either, lol.

:iagree: I need to shift positions frequently, especially with a child on my lap. Why wouldn't a child need to do the same? It helps that we get up and down many times during the service.

I am going the online route this year, BUT if I had concerns about the computer and was only doing one class I'd probably get the DVDs. We did Algebra with DVDs this year. Just be aware that there will probably still be a lot of papers to print off the CD that comes with the DVDs (worksheets, quizzes, etc). But you could always take that to a printing place and get all that printed off at once.

I don't always attend with a joyful and willing heart. :)

They have been loved and trained, and appear to want to please their parents. I am sure that the massive psychological scars will manifest themselves later, but everything seems pretty steady so far. Five compliant children produced from parents who were themselves very NON-compliant children - what are the odds? I don't think so.

:iagree: Same here. Five children - and the have all stayed through our 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 hour services for years. I also find that "stuff" just makes the job harder. I will allow them to draw with a pencil on the worship bulletin but only if they keep it quiet. When they first start reading I try to get them to count certain words in the sermon. For instance, "Mark how many times you hear the word covenant, Father" etc...

And so they did, at the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans. Not currently a popular belief, though it used to be very common. The language referring to the sun, moon, and stars turning to blood, falling, etc is metaphorical language straight from the Old Testament referring to govts. or powers. There will still be an end of the world and resurrection. If anyone is interested in this view you can look up preterism.

I believe it is because it repeats a lot at that level, plus Veritas wants the child to be done with basic grammar at the end of 6th grade.

Did you say you were in Austin? I know Austin has competitive homeschool basketball (the Austin Royals) - they may have baseball too. We have several homeschool baseball teams in the Houston Metro area. My kids play homeschool basketball (just got back from the national tournament - fun!) and my son is going to start football this year.

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Um, I understand that "Tea Party" was coined by the protesters themselves, and that teabagging was a nasty play on that appellation. What I was referrring to was Cooper's "It's hard to talk when you're teabagging" and MSNBC' s Shuster saying "But in our fourth story tonight: It's going to be teabagging day for the right-wing and they're going nuts for it. Thousands of them whipped out the festivities early this past weekend, and while the parties are officially toothless, the teabaggers are full-throated about their goals." Ahhh, yes, objective journalism from those bastions of fairness, CNN and MSNBC!

It IS a rather disgusting thing to label your political enemies, isn't it? Yankee Doodle was originally written to mock the Americans, and they adopted it anyway, so I figure it is tradition. :D Many political movements and parties throughout history have adopted names originally intended to be insulting, so I figure we're in good company. I have not actually attended any Tea Party functions myself, though I am in general sympathy with them.

Oh, I KNOW very well what it means. It was applied to Tea Partiers by Andersen Cooper, one of those fair, non-Fox, mainstream reporters. :glare: I used the term in keeping with with the general tone of the rest of the sentence. I was trying to demonstrate the pot-calling-the-kettle-black irony of liberal attempts to decry how awful conservatives are to typecast and make assumptions about liberals.

Yeah, I can't stand Keith Olbermann either. :D

My point is that this cuts both ways - this was not meant to be directed at you. People on this board have lumped those on the right into the most awful categories, based on their opposition to the health care bill.

Ah....like the cartoonish, redneck, heartless, racist teabaggers that those of us on the right are routinely pictured as?

My middle daughter still does this, and she is 14. It used to really worry me. She can read silently now if she has to (during testing, etc), but at home she still prefers to read out loud. The whisper, whisper sound drives the rest of us crazy.:D She is a very good student and loves to read. She is a slower reader than my other children, but her retention is excellent.

I can answer this one, I think. The theological issues are the "isms" popular in the North at the time (remember "Little Women"?) especially amongst many abolitionists. In other words, Unitarianism/Transcendentalism/Utopianism/etc., as opposed to traditional orthodox Trinitarian Christianity. They are interested in the whole Richard Weaver "Ideas have Consequences" thing. The big picture religious and philosophical trajectory thing. I don't think Wilson, Wilkins, or Vision Forum would describe themselves as Neo-Confederate ( I have heard at least two of them specifically refute that, I think). They all believe that racism is a great sin. They do believe that the war made things worse, and that it was not a righteous war, nor was it all about slavery. I am the least familiar with Vision Forum in this area, not being a huge fan, but I want to be fair. None of them believe in any of that Curse of Ham crap. The League of the South is definitely more hard core Neo-Confederate. I don't know that they even deal with theological issues. At least that is not their main concern.

Except that most people understood the meaning to begin with, because they weren't trying to set themselves up as the language arbiters or looking for a way to be offended. Making a comparison between a real gulag and a metaphorical one is a perfectly legitimate way to make a point. I suspect that those who would get up in arms about it would not be the least bit receptive to her point anyway.

Since when is there anything so criminal about using hyperbole, analogy, metaphor, or other rhetorical devices to make a point on a classical education board? A little less sensitivity, please.

Copywork seems to be plenty for my natural spellers. I usually just move on to vocabulary with them.

We use boxed curriculum (BJU dvds for math and BJU texts in co-op) because I want to focus my personal teaching efforts in other areas - Latin, Classical Writing, Omnibus, etc. We tried many other things before BJU (LOF, Singapore, etc) but they are all doing well with BJU this year, and they all like it, and are still somewhat challneged. It is not the most rigorous math we could have chosen, but for our purposes it is rigorous enough. My son may want to go into engineering, so I will probably make some kind of change for him when he gets to pre-calc and calc (and maybe for my liberal-arts-leaning, yet math competent daughters). I also have them in biology rather than phys. sci. their freshman year, because one or two of their preferred universities prefer it that way. :) BUT, the boxed curriculum definitely has a part in our plan. We will probably use it for a modern language, too. I have decided over the last year that I am going to try to make sure everyone gets through Calc. I by starting Algebra in 8th, and four years of science starting with biology, but I am not going to stress about APs, unless maybe the Latin AP. I am not trying to get them in Ivy League schools, though. We are looking at a few good state schools and a few selective, though not super-selective, private schools. They will need to get at least partial scholarships to go, though. I think it all depends on your goals.