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  1. The priest or bishop stands in the place of Christ. He is a living image of Christ as head of the Church to the people. Jesus is a man. There's no way around that.
  2. Thank you for pointing out that doctors make more becaus of training, responsibility, etc. That's very true. My point though was merely about the value of a person, regardless of their profession. Your point about different people preferring different roles is valid, however this is where the doctor/caregiver analogy falls short when comparing to the priesthood, because, like @Bluegoat pointed out above, it's not so much about doing as about being, and preference, strong as it may be, doesn't change that.
  3. Why can't separate ever be equal? Does that mean that because a man can't physically bear children that he is not equal to a woman? He's certainly not the same in that respect - there is a separation in that distinction. I won't try to convince you one way or the other about the things you mentioned (change, divorce, headcoverings, etc., none of which really work as actual proof of women being inferior to men in the eyes of the church). Clearly we would just be talking past one another instead of coming to terms. But I will say that I don't feel the least bit scared by people leaving Orthodoxy, though it does make me sad. I don't feel any need to categorize people who come and people who leave into the categories of smart/enlightened and deluded/ignorant, nor do I think that there must be something "wrong" with anyone who leaves, or that there's anything particularly "right" about those who come and those who stay. Your journey is your own, and it's not my business to judge your choices. I just had some questions because I wanted to understand a little better, that's all. Eta: I will say though that the whole no communion while on your period thing is something I've heard mentioned, privately, in passing, ONCE in 40 years. It sounds like a fundamentalist type thing to me.
  4. Perhaps. But that really only means something if you consider caregiving to be inferior to doctoring - which I realize society does, since caregivers make a fraction of what doctors make. But does that actually mean that being a doctor somehow makes a person more valuable than being "just" a caregiver?
  5. I'm sorry that your experience of Orthodoxy has been what it has. What you have described is nothing like anything I've ever experienced in any parish I've ever been a part of, though we have always been part of the Antiochian archdiocese, never OCA. If anything children are doted on and loved and indulgently smiled at when they make noise. I have been especially struck by the incredible outpouring of love for children at our nearby Romanian parish. I also see women honored and respected and encouraged to teach and lead in many ways, even without being able to be ordained. I know of one woman who has been given a blessing to give sermons, and there are many women who chant and read and things like that. But I'm also a person who has never understood why equality has to equal sameness in every respect, including the right to do every single thing a man does, and it seems from the discussion here that that's what you want, so perhaps all of those things are still not enough. I'm sure you've heard it pointed out that how much we honor and venerate the Theotokos is an example of how women are not viewed as inferior to men. How do you view that? I'm curious what attracted you to Orthodoxy in the first place. Because the faith itself doesn't change, even if the people in your parish don't live it out in a way that seems right. And that's something that's worth discussing with kids as well, because hypocrisy and simply just falling short of the ideal people strive for is something they will see over and over again. Eta: I hope this does not come across as condescending or judgemental- I wish I could communicate my tone of voice. My questions are genuine and not meant to be snarky.
  6. I haven't logged on to these boards in ages. Sorry I'm late to the party! We actually still do use Ray's (though, yes, we are using it alongside BA). I have one dd though, who is going to use Ray's almost exclusively this coming year and just occasionally dip her toes in BA when it seems like it might be fun. I have all the BA books, and they have mostly been fun for us, but for this particular dd they are not a good fit. I wanted to make it work because pulling out a workbook and doing a few pages seemed like it was just so much easier than taking the time to go through the oral work in Ray's together. It seemed overwhelming somehow to have to do math with her and also with my 1st grader. But I've realized over the past year that Ray's actually takes way less time and lays such a solid foundation that I was silly to have moved away from it in the first place. I can't wait to get back into it more fully again. The older two dc never stopped using Intellectual, though we did stop using Practical since they were doing the BA books. They're both in the fractions chapter now and I continue to be so impressed by how thorough it is.
  7. Thank you for sharing this! I'm really looking forward to listening. Some of the speakers are definitely people I want to hear!
  8. I'm looking forward to our break week that's for sure. 1.5 weeks to go! In the meantime I'm being inspired and encouraged by Julie Bogart's Bravewriter podcast and her new book that just arrived today! ❤️
  9. In the box my dad gave me were also 2 volumes of Adler's syntopicon as well as one random volume of War and Peace that looks like ot belongs to the Great Books set. The syntopicon looks really interesting, but I've only had time to glance at it thus far.
  10. Thank you, Lori D. I had seen some of the threads you linked but some were new to me!
  11. So my dad gave me a set of these and they look really interesting. They don't contain the original texts of the authors mentioned/discussed beyond some significant quotes, but the idea behind the set seems to be a thorough introduction to various great works on a variety of topics. Curious if anyone has these and has used them with their children in any way? I'm very intrigued and am hoping to find a way to incorporate these into our studies.
  12. One thing I like about Ray's is how new types of oral problems are introduced with a step by step breakdown of how to go about solving them. If my kids need that breakdown we go through it and then only return to it if they start to struggle a bit. Sometimes we don't even need to cover it at all, other times we go over several problems step by step before they're able to get comfortable with that type of problem. But mostly if they're giving me correct answers I don't bother asking them how they're getting there. I find that so much oral practice really gives me a good sense of where they understand and where they struggle so it's easy to tailor our work accordingly.
  13. Ray's Arithmetic might work. That's what we've been using for several years. The Primer might be a little easy if he's already in 4A, so maybe look at Intellectual Arithmetic, which is meant to be done orally all the way through.
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