Farrar Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 So my terrible speller, ds10, went through AAS4 pretty slowly, finished over the summer, and started AAS5 and got a little ways in but.... somehow he has completely regressed on a bunch of things that he was spelling pretty well, in particular all those "vowel teams" in words, but also stuff that I felt like he had finally gotten like ch vs. tch and even really basic stuff like starting to end words in ck instead of k+silent e. It's ... Well, I'm feeling pretty frustrated. Six months ago, he really had this. But it feels useless to try to continue AAS5 and going back a level doesn't make much sense because a) I don't have the book anymore and b) the main thing we need for practice is more dictation sentences and he's done them all and then some because even at the time I ended up making up a bunch. So for now so I'm shelving it for a bit and have just been reviewing the phonograms and then doing dictation sentences and occasionally our own writing stations that we're making up. Thing is... I'm getting a little tired of making up my own dictation sentences, especially on the fly. At this point, I either need to sit down and write myself several weeks worth of them... OR... I need to buy a book or have someone point me to a good source of sentences online or something. Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairProspects Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 How to Teach Spelling the master copy with the K-12 lists. That is what you are looking for. ;) I would so use it if I didn't have dyslexics who need every single step of AAS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelli Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 There are free spelling dictation sentences broken down by grade level here: http://www.k12reader.com/spelling-worksheets/ You could also purchase the Dictation Resource book that goes with Spelling Plus. It has the words broken down by pattern so you can find the sentences you need easily. http://www.rainbowresource.com/proddtl.php?id=004554 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 How to Teach Spelling the master copy with the K-12 lists. That is what you are looking for. ;) I would so use it if I didn't have dyslexics who need every single step of AAS. But that implies that it's goes faster than AAS? That makes me think we would use up all the sentences and need more since the ones in AAS weren't enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HootyTooty Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 What about something like Dictation Day by Day (or Modern Speller which is the same book with a smidge more)? It is a vintage book, but you might be able to pull sentences from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 What about something like Dictation Day by Day (or Modern Speller which is the same book with a smidge more)? It is a vintage book, but you might be able to pull sentences from there. That looks promising... Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahW Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 But that implies that it's goes faster than AAS? That makes me think we would use up all the sentences and need more since the ones in AAS weren't enough. HTTS has a lot of sentences for dictation. It just doesn't have the long drawn out scripted spiral of AAS. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaplank Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 How to Teach Spelling is really what you are looking for if you want to pair it with AAS. There is a direct correlation of rules between them and plenty of dictation. I have done it this way myself seeing, that there is not enough dictation in AAS. Also, in HTTS there is somewhat of a cumulative effect with the dictation sentences that isn't there with AAS. It helps you figure out if the rules have been cemented or not. What I would typically do is teach the concept using the AAS tiles as stated in the book, go over review cards, and then do the written work directly from HTTS. Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAttachedMama Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I haven't been able to check out the How to Teach Spelling books, but......... I highlyrecommend you purchase the spelling dictation book by Spelling Plus. (Already recommended above.) It sounds like it is JUST what you are looking for. I just purchased it used from amazon, and it is fantastic. This is the listing for the book from rainbow resource just so you can see the cover and read about. However, I just bought a used copy from Amazon for just $2 plus shipping. (Amazon doesn't have the cover picture though for some reason. But this is the right ISBN, and they sent me the correct book.) I use AAS too. However, spelling plus is a bit different in that it teaches the 1000 most common words used in writing today. (According to the author these words make up 98% of written language....or something like that. I forget the exact percentage.) She divides these 1000 words into spelling lists of 15 words each. The spelling lists start with the easiest words to spell and gradually gets harder. They are also grouped by spelling rule. Now, The dictation book of hers is a supplement to her program. But, I think it is going to be perfect for you purposes all by itself! The dictation book gives 4 sentences per day for each of her spelling lists. (The dictation book also contains all of her word lists...so it makes her actual spelling book sort of pointless...but that is beside the point.) Each sentence uses ONLY the words taught and mastered in previously lists. Plus, as you continue on, the sentences constantly review previously taught words. As an added bonus, the dictation sentences are written so they gradually introduce and practice other mechanics in writing. For example, the beginner level sentences are super easy. (Capitalize first word and in a period.) After awhile, they introduce other capitalization rules. (Like the word I in the middle of a sentence, or proper nouns.) After awhile they start adding in commas used in a series. Next, they start adding in contractions. And on and on and on. It really is an efficient use of time to teach a LOT of useful information. If you need help deciding what "list" or level to start on with her dictation sentences, she has spelling placement tests somewhere on her website. I just can't find the link right now to the tests....but they are out there somewhere. I was able to eyeball the sentences and determine a good starting point based on how we were doing in AAS. So you might be able to do that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ondreeuh Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Even better, on the spelling plus website you can find all sorts of additional (free!) dictation lists. http://www.susancanthony.com/res/dictlit/-dictlit.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 I used to have the Spelling Plus dictation book. I don't think it's quite right just because of the focus on those most common words. He's now at the point where he spells those right for the most part. So I mentioned that he's been struggling with those AAS "vowel teams." Something like "rain" that he sees all the time is fine. But a word like sprain might become "sprane." Which is actually okay, just the wrong choice. But then he gets flustered when I say it's wrong and to think of the other ways to spell a and he'll write something that makes no sense like "spraone" or "sprin" or he'll get so flustered that he'll do something really silly like "spain," leaving out consonant sounds he knew before. So then the next word he gets wrong will be nonsense. And so forth. This sort of thing has always been a problem but he had gotten so much better and now he's regressed a bit again. Anyway, just to say I think he needs something that's not so focused on the words he's likely to have had memorized so he can focus on those phonograms a la AAS. Okay, How to Teach Spelling is looking promising then. I wish it were a little cheaper though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 You know, writing that he's actually good with those most common words made me feel a little better. AAS has really helped him sooooo much. His writing is all understandable now when he writes for school, even if the spelling isn't always great. He just needs to keep practicing and working at it. Putting a used copy of HTTS in my cart. Hopefully it'll be what he needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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