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Does anyone know anything about supposed power outage Nov. 13-14 for test of North American grid?


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#1 Pen

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 07:03 PM

I've been seeing things online and do not know if this is a real thing that will happen or internet hulabaloo about nothing.

 

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 07:10 PM

Where have you seen this?



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 07:10 PM

I haven't and find it hard to believe. It will be cold by then.

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 07:15 PM

I've been seeing things online and do not know if this is a real thing that will happen or internet hulabaloo about nothing.

 

TIA

 

This would be a good time to start with step #1 in critical thinking about reported events:

 

1. Consider the sources.



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 07:24 PM

It's a SIMULATION.  http://www.nytimes.c...anted=all&_r=1



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 07:25 PM

No, dh would know by now and he hasn't mentioned it.

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 07:32 PM

I read the NY Times article and it is a computer drill.

 

"This is why thousands of utility workers, business executives, National Guard officers, F.B.I. antiterrorism experts and officials from government agencies in the United States, Canada and Mexico are preparing for an emergency drill in November that will simulate physical attacks and cyberattacks that could take down large sections of the power grid.

They will practice for a crisis unlike anything the real grid has ever seen, and more than 150 companies and organizations have signed up to participate.

 

This is different from a hurricane that hits X, Y and Z counties in the Southeast and they have a loss of power for three or four days,” said the official in charge of the drill, Brian M. Harrell of the North American Electric Reliability Corporation, known as NERC. “We really want to go beyond that.”

One goal of the drill, called GridEx II, is to explore how governments would react as the loss of the grid crippled the supply chain for everyday necessities.

“If we fail at electricity, we’re going to fail miserably,” Curt Hébert, a former chairman of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, said at a recent conference held by the Bipartisan Policy Center.

Mr. Harrell said that previous exercises were based on the expectation that electricity “would be up and running relatively quick” after an attack.

Now, he said, the goal is to “educate the federal government on what their expectations should or shouldn’t be.” The industry held a smaller exercise two years ago in which 75 utilities, companies and agencies participated, but this one will be vastly expanded and will be carried out in a more anxious mood.

Most of the participants will join the exercise from their workplaces, with NERC, in Washington, announcing successive failures. One example, organizers say, is a substation break-in that officials initially think is an attempt to steal copper. But instead, the intruder uses a USB drive to upload a virus into a computer network.

 

The drill is part of a give-and-take in the past few years between the government and utilities that has exposed the difficulties of securing the electric system."

 

 



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 08:56 PM

Thank you!



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 09:17 PM

Honestly, I don't think it's necessary. Recent natural events in the last couple years (Hurricane Sandy, Hurricane Irene, for example) have shown the ineffectiveness of the power companies and state govts. to respond. I don't know why they think people are out for only 3 or 4 days with a hurricane. That quote by the official makes it sound like they respond so well to such disasters. Hardly the case, especially when they knew the hurricane is going to hit. If you can't do the small things well (and hurricane damage is not small by any means), you aren't going to do too well with the big things.

 



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 11:02 PM

But will Bruce Willis be there? He should be on standby at least.

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 11:24 PM

Honestly, I don't think it's necessary. Recent natural events in the last couple years (Hurricane Sandy, Hurricane Irene, for example) have shown the ineffectiveness of the power companies and state govts. to respond. I don't know why they think people are out for only 3 or 4 days with a hurricane. That quote by the official makes it sound like they respond so well to such disasters. Hardly the case, especially when they knew the hurricane is going to hit. If you can't do the small things well (and hurricane damage is not small by any means), you aren't going to do too well with the big things.

 

Well the idea of these simulations is to try to test the system and find the weak spots, *before* a real-life emergency hits.  

The guy quoted in the article said "This is different from a hurricane that hits X, Y and Z counties in the Southeast and they have a loss of power for three or four days.  
We really want to go beyond that.”
I read this to mean that the tabletop exercise they're doing is to simulate something worse than the "normal" hurricane that hits a few counties with a 3-4 day outage.




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