mothergooseof4 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I am not sure I would consider a LA change for us at this point in the year, but perhaps for next year. I want something that includes it all, well perhaps not spelling, but I want grammar, literary terms/analysis, writing instruction, etc. all in one program. We have tried CLE and it seemed like overkill and lacked in writing instruction. Phonics Road took too much of our day. What other choices are out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NittanyJen Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 For what age? Michael Clay Thompson (Royal Fireworks Press) starts at about grade 3, and includes grammar, grammar practice, writing, poetics, literature, and vocabulary that will provide a long-term assist with spelling because it begins with Latin-based vocabulary and stems (which over years expands to include Greek, Old English, and more). The cool thing about its design is that the program is integrated... Although you can pick and choose components freely, they definitely reinforce one another; poetics reinforces grammar and vocabulary and so on. None of the components requires all year by itself, so you can stagger them a bit so you are not spending all morning on language arts, but because they reinforce each other (and because of the way the practice book works) there will be review all year long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffeegal Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Learning Language Arts Through Literature? :001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mothergooseof4 Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 Learning Language Arts Through Literature? :001_smile: I have been looking at this, but the claims that it isn't "enough" scare me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mothergooseof4 Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 For what age? Michael Clay Thompson (Royal Fireworks Press) starts at about grade 3, and includes grammar, grammar practice, writing, poetics, literature, and vocabulary that will provide a long-term assist with spelling because it begins with Latin-based vocabulary and stems (which over years expands to include Greek, Old English, and more). The cool thing about its design is that the program is integrated... Although you can pick and choose components freely, they definitely reinforce one another; poetics reinforces grammar and vocabulary and so on. None of the components requires all year by itself, so you can stagger them a bit so you are not spending all morning on language arts, but because they reinforce each other (and because of the way the practice book works) there will be review all year long. I will take a look at this again. I have before and it didn't appeal to me. Does it go all the way through hs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhotoGal Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Moving Beyond the Page? You could do the literature guides only (if you didn't want science and social studies as well). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momtoamiracle Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 K12 language arts includes everything. It is pretty expensive tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrar Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Bravewriter? It's a whole language arts lifestyle. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jar7709 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 MBTP and Bravewriter, here, are holistic and our foundation that extend into our other subjects. We are bathed in words all day long, but not in like a tortured, overkill way. :) I have a philosophy that nothing in life is isolated, so our subjects aren't either. ymmv, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NittanyJen Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 I will take a look at this again. I have before and it didn't appeal to me. Does it go all the way through hs? It depends on when you start it. The Magic Lens levels are very challenging; if you did not start them in early middle school, you can start them in mid to late middle school without insulting the student at all. The vocabulary program includes explicit instruction on how to do analogies (are those still a big part of the SAT?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momling Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Depending on age, Galore Park could work. Voyages in English looks like it has a lot of different stuff in it... But I don't know if it's got everything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatholicMom Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Voyages in English covers grammar & writing. Doesn't include phonics/reading or handwriting. VIE also doesn't start until Grade 3, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerryAtHope Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Essentials in Writing would have grammar and writing, but not lit. analysis. I think lit. analysis would usually come in with whatever you do for reading though. Have you ever looked at Deconstructing Penguins? Not a program, but easy to add in discussions with whatever you are already doing for reading. Merry :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jer2911mom Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Have you looked at Character Quality Language Arts? It is based on Easy Grammar and IEW and also includes spelling. Not sure about lit analysis. I'm using CLE LA, too, and am looking at other options. I really like it, but it's just too long each day. HTH, Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mothergooseof4 Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) I chose LLATL. I looked at each of the above recommendations and more. My younger two will do the orange book leaving out the spelling since they will continue with Apples and Pears spelling. They are using Essentials in Writing and will stop for now. We will do all of LLATL orange, then I will select what I want them to finish up the year with in EIW, or I may just fit in the writing skills as they apply to what we are doing elsewhere. I like EIW, but it seems too structured for this age. I like the writing in LLATL at this stage and will continue with written narrations in content subjects as well. My oldest will continue EIW 7 and will do LLATL green. He is weak in writing and needs EIW, which is perfect at his level. I like that LLATL keeps grammar fresh, covers some basic lit. analysis/terms, and provides for some other skills. I also allows us to ditch our various components for spelling, dictation, etc. and get it all in one place. I know others say the spelling is weak, but he just needs review after years of OG intense spelling programs. Others say the lit. is weak, but he reads tons of books and answers the question in Notgrass and BF. I really just want strong writing and then a broad sweep of the other LA topics for him. This combined with all of our literature based studies in BF satisfies me. And, hopefully, my oldest and I will have a chance to set this all aside and do Teaching the Classics together at some point this year. Edited October 21, 2012 by mothergooseofthree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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