Holly in FL Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 To win chess...do you "corner" the king or literally TAKE the king? Thanks! ~Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithManor Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 Chess is won when you have successfully placed your pieces in such a manner that your opponent can not move his/her king without moving into check but the king must also be in check. So, you place his king in check and he has no move to get out of it nor can he capture the piece placing his king in check. You do not physically capture the king. However, often in competitive play, the losing player will place his king down on the board (tip-over) as a sign of concession. Faith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegGuheert Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 To win chess...do you "corner" the king or literally TAKE the king? Thanks! ~Holly You corner it. Checkmate is when there is no way for the King to protect itself from being taken on the very next move. But that move never happens! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokotg Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 I am not a chess player, but I just asked DH, who coaches the chess team at his high school, and he votes "corner" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegGuheert Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 I also see that Wikipedia answers your question well: Checkmate (frequently shortened to mate) is a situation in chess (and in other boardgames of the chaturanga family) in which one player's king is threatened with capture (in check) and there is no way to meet that threat. Or, simply put, the king is under direct attack and cannot avoid being captured. Delivering checkmate is the ultimate goal in chess: a player who is checkmated loses the game. In normal chess the king is never actually captured – the game ends as soon as the king is checkmated because checkmate leaves the defensive player with no legal moves.[note 1] In practice, most players resign an inevitably lost game before being checkmated. It is considered bad etiquette to continue playing in a completely hopeless position (Burgess 2000:481).[note 2] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holly in FL Posted August 28, 2010 Author Share Posted August 28, 2010 Thanks, everyone! My son was just playing chess with a friend from down the street...and, the young boy never called "check"...and, in the next move physically took my son's king. My son immediately said, "You never said 'check." And, the other child continued to argue that he didn't have to say it and he won. He told me that's the way he plays all the time. I thought it might be some kind of rule I had never learned. I tried to explain to him that he was not correct...but, to no avail. HA!! Smiles! ~Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithManor Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 Well, that's pretty unsportmanlike and if your son likes chess, I would discourage him from playing it with this boy. No sense picking up bad habits. There are couple of different sets of chess rules. In some rules, you must say "check" and "courtesy on your queen". In others, this is not required. I haven't played American regulation play in so long that I can't remember what is required but we have observed "check", "courtesy on your queen", and "checkmate" when teaching our children and have emphasized that this is a game for ladies and gentlemen. Grabbing your opponent's king will get your hand smacked lightly as this is absolutely RUDE! The play is a little different in Eastern Europe and I believe they observe the "En Passant" move which isn't necessarily allowed in all chess tournaments in the U.S. Maybe you could find a chess partner for your son who has better manners and observes the rules of play. Faith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pqr Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 Well, that's pretty unsportmanlike and if your son likes chess, Faith Not simply unsportsmanlike but against the rules. If in check a player may not make any move other than those which block the check, capture the threatening piece or move the king out of check. If you son made any other move then the move was illegal and the other player needed to inform your son that he was in check and had to perform one of the three moves mentioned above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegGuheert Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 Well, that's pretty unsportmanlike and if your son likes chess, I would discourage him from playing it with this boy. No sense picking up bad habits. There are couple of different sets of chess rules. In some rules, you must say "check" and "courtesy on your queen". In others, this is not required. I haven't played American regulation play in so long that I can't remember what is required but we have observed "check", "courtesy on your queen", and "checkmate" when teaching our children and have emphasized that this is a game for ladies and gentlemen. Grabbing your opponent's king will get your hand smacked lightly as this is absolutely RUDE! The play is a little different in Eastern Europe and I believe they observe the "En Passant" move which isn't necessarily allowed in all chess tournaments in the U.S. Maybe you could find a chess partner for your son who has better manners and observes the rules of play. Faith :iagree: ...though I've never heard of "Courtesy on your queen" before. That almost seems overly polite, to me! Why stop there? How about "Courtesy on your rook," or "Courtesy on your bishop?" ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohdanigirl Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 Not simply unsportsmanlike but against the rules. If in check a player may not make any move other than those which block the check, capture the threatening piece or move the king out of check. If you son made any other move then the move was illegal and the other player needed to inform your son that he was in check and had to perform one of the three moves mentioned above. :iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree: My children were taught this by their chess coach in Mexico as well as a chess club in the U.S. This boy was very rude. Danielle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holly in FL Posted August 28, 2010 Author Share Posted August 28, 2010 Oh my...I didn't mean to stir such emotion from everyone. Smiles! My son took it all in stride. Thanks for all the info and comments! I've enjoyed the responses. Smiles! ~Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidsHappen Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 "courtesy on your queen". Faith I have never heard this expression before. What does it mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pqr Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 It is a warning that the queen is about to be taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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