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Either the Catholic Church or the ELCA (Evangelical Lutheran Church of/in America). I'll try to explain the ELCA points below. We attend an LCMS (Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod) church, so I'm not 100% sure about the ELCA views, but I'll try.
Yeah, it's me and my seemingly never ending church issues/questions.I was thinking maybe evangelicalism just isn't a good fit for where I'm at spiritually. While the ELCA has "evangelical" in their name, they as not associated with the evangelical movement.If I list the main points of where I'm at theologically and doctrinally, will you help me figure out a denomination that might fit? It doesn't haven't to be a perfect fit.
OK, here we go:
(1) Trinitarian, full divinity and humanity of Jesus. (non-negotiable)Yes
(2) Uses the Bible but doesn't worship it or equate it with Jesus. In other words, doesn't call it God's Word-capital-W (which, IMO, belongs only to Jesus, according to Scripture). God's word(s)-lower-case-w is fine. This may be a picky thing, but it bugs me. Here is what the ELCA believes about the Bible. They do capitalize Word, but you would have to look over their beliefs and decide. I have an idea of what you are talking about, but I'm not exactly sure, so I'll just be quiet on this one.
(3) I hold an OE Creationist point of view, and would prefer a denom that is open to a variety of perspectives on this issue. ELCA is pretty open about this one.
(4) I'm not sure about hell, and I'm not sure that it's as black-and-white as I've been raised to believe. ("Accept Jesus" and you go go heaven. Don't accept Jesus - for any reason at all, incl. having never heard - and you're going to hell. ) I just think it's more complex than that, because condemning someone to hell who has never heard is neither merciful nor is it just. And yet both mercy and justice are attributes of God. So, as far as church goes, I would like to be a part of a faith community that at least acknowledges the gray area, kwim? ELCA and LCMS both acknowledge gray areas. I *think* the RCC does a pretty good job of accepting mysteries. (I hope I did the RCC justice there)
(5) Not heavily authoritarian. I won't believe anything just because the pastor/bishop/whoever's in charge tells me so. The one thing I really, really like about Lutheran churches is that, while there is a hierarchy (and therefore accountability), no pastor is an island. They have a hard time "going rogue."
(6) Liturgical. Weekly (or at least frequent) communion. I want to feel more tied to the generations of Christians who have gone before me. I don't need everything new and contemporary and shiny. (This preference is totally optional, but I just think it would be a nice bonus) ELCA is definitely liturgical, though there will be more contemporary services. LCMS is very liturgical.
(7) Doesn't major on the minors. There are *so many* nitpicky areas that we could debate about. I don't want a church that tries to dictate every belief, even in areas that I believe are non-essential. Yep
Does a denomination like this even exist? FWIW, it doesn't have to fit every point.
One other note. The ELCA is generally considered the more "liberal" synod of the Lutheran church, while the LCMS is more moderate-to-conservative. Even though I am a little left-of-center, I still feel comfortable in the LCMS.
HTH
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Ummm.... I got stressed out just reading your post. How are you still going?
:grouphug: to you and many prayers for you, your dh, your move, mad paper-writing skills, and whatever else you need.
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Dh picked up an old laser printer at work for about $15. It was one of those big office printers that had reached the end of its life. We used it for a couple of years before it really, really died. I put it on the back porch, gave my kids screwdrivers, and let them have at it. They spent hours with that thing. Best $15 ever spent.
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Hate it! That's what the dewrinkle cycle on the dryer is for!
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Many words with -oil. Oil sounds like "all", boil sounds like "ball". However, toil and coil come out the "right" way.
It took me years to properly pronounce "short". It always came out as "shart". Quarter was another one. R-controlled vowels throw me.
Tuesday. I still have to make an effort to pronounce this correctly. My dad always said "Chews-day". Of course, he couldn't pronounce a lot of things since is first language was French.
Pianist and accompanist. I take out a syllable in "pianist" (which makes it sound a little dirty) and add a syllable to "accompanist".
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:grouphug: I completely understand. I pulled my oldest two out at Thanksgiving break 3 years ago. While my dc didn't have any anxiety issues, the school just wasn't a good fit. I wasn't legally required to inform them of my decision, but I thought I'd be nice and let them know. The principal tried to talk me out of it and I just stood my ground. You know the penguins in that Madagascar movie? "Just smile and wave, boys. Just smile and wave." Do that.
I have never regretted my decision. Yes, I have the same doubts as any other homeschooling mom. Yes, I have days when I wish a yellow school bus would pick them up and take the somewhere, anywhere for the day. It's not always easy, but it is so very rewarding.
You can do this. We are not all scholars here. We are just moms (and dads) who want the best for our kids and do whatever is necessary.
:grouphug: again, and welcome to the board!
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Yep. If you're going to eat bacon, just go for it. It's BACON! It's not supposed to be healthy. Just soooooooo very yummy.
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See, but those are the kids my husband picks to mentor- because they NEED a male role model! He doesn't do sleepovers or anything, but some of those kids just need a man in their lives to be present!
But how can a man be a positive influence on growing boys without being accused of something?
I am not defending molesters- far from it, but it is hard for a man to be involved with children without it looking suspicious from what people are saying in this thread.
I think Sandusky was a creep... completely. I'm only referring to innocent men here.
I know it stinks. I'm sure those kids really appreciate what your dh does for them. And it really isn't fair that people may talk behind their hands because your dh just really likes kids and wants to make a difference in their lives. It's not fair that creeps like Sandusky ruin it for all the good guys out there.
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There must be a giant purple pencil eater loose in the state:glare:. Our pencils are disappearing at an alarming rate. Perhaps the monster is trying to fill out for the winter?
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Boys.......
:lol: Gotta love 'em.
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Yeah, I've embarrassed my ds more than once by opening the men's bathroom door and hollering his name. :tongue_smilie:
Once I sent another man in to check on him....man came back and reported 'feet' under one stall and no one else in the restroom. LOL So I patiently waited for my ds to finish his business.
My ds is 8. I will still drag the poor boy into the women's bathroom with me. Sometimes, in my small town of 3500 people, I allow him to go into the men's room alone, but I totally shout his name if he takes more than a minute. No shame here.
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I won't let my kids be alone with my bil because I just get a vibe from him. It's hard to explain. He's never been accused of anything, but I just don't feel comfortable leaving my kids alone with him, even if my sil is there. I don't care how many people in the family I pi$$ off, I just won't go there.
I refuse to allow my children to be alone with any man I haven't known for years. Even then, it is hard to let go. Once something terrible is done to a child, it can never be undone. I don't give one flying rat's arse if people think I'm crazy/over-protective/suspicious. It is my job to protect my children and I will make darn sure I do the very best job I possibly can. My perve-o-meter has appropriately gone off so many times I have learned to just trust my instincts.
I would rather be psycho-crazy-overprotective and wrong than be trusting and allow some terrible thing to happen.
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Yep. I have a 4-bedroom house, yet all three children share a room. Their choice. They sleep in the smallest bedroom, which is roughly 10x11. We fit a bunkbed and a twin in there. The lower bunk and the twin bed have a set of drawers underneath. We have a tall but not wide dresser in there. That room is only used for sleeping. The dc have a playroom for all their toys. Changing isn't a problem as they usually go into the playroom or bathroom.
I think they have really enjoyed sharing a room. At night I hear them giggling with each other, which can be either heart-warming or infuriating. Some mornings they are all in the same bed, which is always sweet. Sharing a room has brought them a lot closer. I vote for you to go for it!
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Long live the Oxford comma!
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My daughter, when presented with the nitty gritty of the facts looked up at me and said "I'm just adopting".
After all, dh and I adopted all 3 of our kids so it should work for her too.
:lol: My oldest dd said the exact same thing.
We live on a farm. The kids always saw the chickens getting busy. There are cows down the road that we have observed in the act. Every stinking time we go to the zoo some animal is having that sort of fun. I've always said they were just making babies. When I finally havd an in-depth talk with dd, she was just horrified, disgusted, and baffled.
I told my dh about the talk later. He was laughing at me. I told him he would have to discuss all that with ds. Ya know what he said to me> "My part is easy. I just have to tell him where to stick it." Yep. Divorce and bodily harm crossed my mind right then.
My ds10 said the other day, "Mom, I think one time I came to your door when you and dad were doing s*x." (Gotta love that phrase, doing s*x.) Of course I'm thinking, "what did he hear???""Why do you think so?" (gulp)
"Because I had a bad dream and the door was locked, and when I knocked you said, 'just pray to God and go back to bed!'"
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Yup, son, you're probably right. :blush:
*snort*
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Name and ages of the kids.
Something to remind that I should not feel as though I have to compete with all the awesome moms here, mostly because I just can't compete.
Smart a$$ comment about what we use. Not that I don't enjoy seeing what everyone else uses. See above comment.
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:party: Awesome! Congrats!
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Haha! My ds will have stuff on backwards all the time. Same thing... it's clothes, isn't it?
We won't go in to the whole backwards clothes thing:glare:. Half the time I am rushing out the door. Because, you know, 2 hours is totally not enough time to get ready. I hate it when I finally notice, after visiting at least 5 places, that my son has either his shirt or pants on backwards.
I have seriously considered requiring them to wear signs stating "I dress myself".
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I'll admit it. I grew up in the ghetto. A lot of illegal activities are tolerated. Child molestation is not. While I try to tone down the scrappiness most of the time, I don't know if I could manage if anyone pulled anything with my kids.
When I was about 10, we were living in GA while the rest of my family lived in LA. We got a call one night. My grandma told us that one of my aunt's boyfriends had molested at least two of my cousins. Within 5 minutes my Dad was in the car with a loaded gun, ready to make the 10 hour drive back to LA. Those girls had no dads. No one reported the boyfriend. My Mom eventually talked him out of it, but I remember feeling more proud of my Dad than scared.
I had a close friend who was molested by a family friend. She told me she felt a lot of resentment towards her parents because they didn't fight harder for her.
I am not usually a violent person. I haven't hit anyone in years. If (God forbid) anything happened to my kids, I know the logical response would be to focus entirely on them. But how can a child ever feel safe again knowing their abuser is out there? That this abuser will likely get off lightly? Would my child not respect me more if I retaliated? If my child knew I would stop at nothing to keep them safe? I just don't know if I could live in a world where my child's abuser existed.
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Yes son, you do need to change into a clean pair of underwear after a shower.
We've had to have this conversation before with our boys.... and we ALWAYS have to ask if they used soap in the shower... both body soap and hair soap (shampoo). And if the soap made it on their whole body/hair.. not just their hands. We finally did an showering tutorial. I'm not sure how much of it sunk in.... What is the deal with boys?!?!
I seriously laughed out loud! I cannot tell you how many times I have had to tell my son to use soap on his whole entire body. The poor boy is completely clueless. Today he came downstairs in his older sister's jeans. He didn't notice that he picked up the wrong pair. All he knew was that he had on clothes.
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Oh they are just way too cute! Has your dh started collecting guns?:lol:
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Why is the cat wearing a nut cup?
:eek::svengo: You win!:lol:
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No naked gymnastics. All the time. :glare:
:lol: My older two are in that shy stage right now, so the naked gymnastics/karate have ceased. Dd4, on the other hand.......
Just today I said:"No, I did not get you a gross toilet with pee and poop in it for your birthday."
Moose is about to turn 6, thinks anything 'gross' or related to bathroom-bodily-functions is HILARIOUS, and was 'guessing' what we had gotten him as birthday gifts. :glare:
(How much longer am I going to have to say things like 'Fart jokes aren't funny; just say excuse me and move on'?! You know what; never mind. Please don't answer that. :tongue_smilie:)
I don't get it either. I only had sisters. I just don't get the fascination with bodily functions.
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Mostly? Don't lick that!!!!!!
Seriously! I've caught my son, who is 8, licking things at the grocery store. There just are no words for that one.
I need turkey help with an electric roast pan please.
in General Education Discussion Board
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Warning- I have only cooked one turkey in an electric roaster before, so take my advice with a grain of salt.:tongue_smilie:
Last Thanksgiving we purchased an electric roaster thing (on sale) before a big family Thanksgiving. Turkey was completely defrosted. We injected it with a Cajun seasoning (really, really injected it) the night before. We stuffed him with a seasoned mixture of onions, bell pepper, garlic, and a stick of butter. About 10:00pm we put Tom (as I call all my Thanksgiving turkeys) in the roaster at 200 degrees. We let Tom cook all night, long and slow, and pulled him out at around 11:00am. He was juicy. He was tasty. He had flavor.
My best advice is to cook your turkey long and slow in a roaster. It totally worked for us.