So what is Algebra 3?

We had written off AoPS for Dd because of the wordiness. Coming out of Singapore it was too large of a shift. Which was odd because she reads books about math for pleasure. We decided to do another year of "elementary math" to let things marinate a bit before moving into PreA, and even after 4 weeks of Math Mammoth 6 as a spine, her tolerance for wordiness has improved. A lot. She not really learning new concepts, just gaining confidence, speed and independence. Still not going to do AoPS for PreA, though. But rethinking Intro to Algebra. So maybe some kids sort of grow into the AoPS style? Question: assuming you start AoPS in fifth/ sixth grade, how many books a year do most students work through? There seem to be more classes/ books than years. Thanks!

Not quite there yet. Just drawn to the student friendly format, mostly.

What would you think of this for a younger advanced student if used along side math contest materials? I'm thinking especially of the geometry as a "pre geometry" before AoPS.

We are moving through fairly quickly- 3 weeks give or take per chapter. We do Latin as one of our core subjects, using it as the vocab and grammar portions of our Language Arts. Dd is very interested in it, and we work together. I would say we follow a "Latin Centered" schedule. We do Latin (also math and Lit) five days a week. We skim the history part of LL. I cross posted this on the high school board, and got excellent input. It looks like we will probably go with Latin Alive when we finish BBLL2. We've still got a few months, but I wanted input now b/c I'm placing a large enough book order that I could "look and return" if it doesn't look like it will work without losing my free shipping. I don't live near any place that sells homeschool books, or really any curriculum shows, so I try to stay a few months or so ahead on my purchases. I really like Galore Park products, but think the layout of the CAP products work really well for this kiddo.

I want to collect this word. Very descriptive. :0) ETA, I have not looked at samples of LA!2. I will. ETA 2- I looked, and I really think Latin Alive will be a good fit for this kiddo and our style of school. LA!1 looks to be mostly review, but we are not in a hurry. I may email CAP to see where to place her. Thanks!

I think through BBLL2 covers roughly the same material as First and Second Form Latin, so whatever MP's advice for after those would probably apply to BBLL2 (which we like far better than the MP material we've seen: Latin Christiana and Prima Latina). We haven't done the history parts of BBLL so far, other than reading it here and there.

Thank-you! I have a large order I need to put in for RR. I may just order the books for both Latin Alive and MP Henle and take a look, I'd only be out the cost of return shipping for what I don't want. I really like the looks of the Latin Via Ovid, but I'm not clear if I can buy a TE as a homeschooler, or what the next step would be after it. http://wsupress.wayne.edu/books/detail/practice-practice We'll do MP First Start for French (with Duolingo), beginning about the same time, so the MP workbooks might be too much of the same format. I think Latin Alive is based on Wheelock with an eye to the exams. I'm having a hard time getting a sense of how thorough the grammar is, though. BBLL does well in that regard. CAP just released the last volume of Latin Alive, so I doubt many have gone all the way through. Thanks again,

She'll be about the same age. BBLL2 is pretty complete. If the student has retained most of the information, they're very ready for Henle http://livelylatin.com/faqs/#faq_22. I actually wouldn't mind some review, since we'll probably add French back in at about the same time.

I posted on Logic board, but thought perhaps there would be more experience here. We are on track to finish BBLL2 this year. I've looked at the two options that are recommended to follow it (Latin Via Ovid and Henle) and don't see either as being a great fit for us- dd will still be logic stage. Has anyone followed BBLL2 with Latin Alive? I would eventually like for dd to be able to take the AP Latin exam or a similar exam. I found old threads, but they seem to be gone. Thanks!

We are on track to finish BBLL2 this year. I've looked at the two options that are recommended to follow it (Latin Via Ovid and Henle) and don't see either as being a great fit for us- dd will still be logic stage. Has anyone followed BBLL2 with Latin Alive? I would eventually like for dd to be able to take the AP Latin exam or a similar exam. I found old threads, but they seem to be gone. Thanks!

From my experience, it would be worth take a short break from math for maybe 2-3 weeks. Decide what your plan is, then don't make it negotiable. Mine used to play my math indecision like a piano. My kiddo (who is mostly VS) hated MEP. We floundered around for a while and basically unschooled math until she was almost 8, but eventually did the green Knowing Mathematics http://www.eduplace.com/intervention/knowingmath/ (I found a new WB and used TE Amazon)- all of the book and daily math practice as written- and Zaccaro Elementary. That was a good warm up to doing a curriculum, then we tested into Singapore 3b/ 4a, even though her knowledge of concepts was higher. Once we had the ball rolling, she plowed through the rest of elementary math in a little over a year. We're still debating this school year, but may park in "6th grade math" and do more problem solving and Zaccaro to make sure she has a rock solid foundation. We are doing Math Rider to improve automaticity. Good luck!

We listened to STOW in the car. Otherwise we really didn't do a lot beyond getting library books and going to a museum. Dd still loves ancient things. Before that we did cultures and countries. For the ages you have, that might be more fun.

An Accelerated Course: http://www.amazon.com/Pre-Algebra-An-Accelerated-Course-Dolciani/dp/039543050X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1408567449&sr=8-1&keywords=prealgebra+dolciani Cover is the same as the 1992 edition. I did not pay $20 + shipping... more like $8 shipped. Prices seem pretty high right now.

I own two different Dolciani PreA's, and about convulsed when "An Accelerated Approach" arrived because it had been my PreA. I almost burned it, actually. We've sort of landed on it because it's what she needs, and really, I've run out of other options (video based is not her thing). It's our Goldilocks book I guess. We picked up a copy of Real World Algebra at Half Price books today (which she almost hugged), so we'll hold off on the SMSG for the time being, although she still wants to do the "cannibals" chapter...

I mapped out a schedule for Dolciani PreA. I'm thinking of meshing it with the SMSG free texts, using the Dolciani as a spine. I think the two will be complementary, and meets my "2 programs for math" limit.

Yup. Those are the ones. Still debating. I do have a clunky laptop/ iPad combo I might be able to put together for looking at TE and Student book. If we did it this year and it was a total flop, we'd still be through Geometry by High School.

I agree. It feels weird with the disappearing like buttons.

Okay, so I'm reading old threads on the board here- from 2011 or so. These books have teacher's manuals. Meaty word problems. I'm looking at the Junior High ones, you know where we all flap and flutter because it's so hard to find good stuff at those levels, especially with teacher's manuals. So has no one really, truly used these at the Junior High level? Are they flawed? I know they are not pretty. Other problems?

So is this a version of Elements of Mathematics?

This is different from the elementary levels in that you don't seem to need the language of arrows and computers.

The link is from the CEMSE... the Everyday Math people. I take it this not the same stuff? vlc.cemseprojects.org/

Has anyone used these?

I'm on one of the other threads. My Dd is finishing 5b, probably today. I agree that 6 is really nessesary to move into 7 unless the student has done lots of the CWP or IP. I also want to point out the Standards 6 is a longer book than the PM US 6, and they cover different things, so Standards 6 may very well last a year for some students. I don't think there is a HIG for Standards 6 b/c you really have already taught the material, so just an answer key will suffice. ETA, I have the Stds. Answer key and it does contain some errors.

Hello, I've looked around for a Dolciani Pre-Algebra schedule, and ended up making one myself. I'm going to link it here. I'm also going to try to make it editable, so if someone would like to improve, comment or insert video links to topics, please feel free. If you want to make substantial changes, copy/ paste/ create your own version, and link it back here for others to share. If you've done the Pre-Algebra book, and my schedule is crazy wrong, please comment, too. This schedule is set up assuming we will work 4 days a week, with a fifth day to catch-up and/ or to do additional logic and problem solving. Most daily assignments will be a selection of 15-25 problems I choose with focus on B, C and word problems. Our book is old and tired, so I'm just circling the selected problems right in the book. I also removed the answers and put them in page protectors in my teacher binder. I know sometimes Dolciani gets overlooked b/c it lacks teacher resources. If anyone else is using it, maybe we can lend a little support to each other. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ac3I7aNXm0bAD4krBhMgmWFK0PDjxRYJWM_HBN8Z-ds/edit?usp=sharing HTH