Have you seen UC Scout?

Wilson Hill uses Latin Alive 1-3.... another vote of confidence for it.

Is it Susan Wise Bauer's History of the Ancient World that you're looking for? You can see the ToC at Amazon.

My oldest are taking Biology and Geometry at Wilson Hill this year. The classes are going exceptionally well... The instructors are clear and on top of things. They're always willing to go out of their way to help with any questions, special situations, etc. The texts used for the classes that I've looked at are some of the best (the Dolciani sequence for pre-algebra through at least Trig/Precalc, the science texts including Miller Levine for Biology, ...) We have had ZERO technical issues this year w/ WHA, the first year in almost five years of online classes that we have been free of technical problems. It is easy for me, as the parent, to access all of the boys' classes from one page to see their running grades and upcoming assignments.... WHA has some of the best online teachers out there! We've had several of them in other online classes over the past 5 years.... Bruce & Julie Etter, Joanna Hensley, Cindy Lange, Josie Lowery, and now Marie Owens and Leslie Smith. Cindy Lange is the person to contact regarding any questions you might have about the writing classes. She is very generous with her time. She really wants each student & family to find the best fit for them. We will be taking more classes with them next year. (I feel like an ad for WHA, but I have no affiliation w/ them beyond being very happy with their teachers and classes...)

At our local brick & mortar high schools, public and private, students take 1 to 2 years of PE & those go on their transcript as full credit classes with grades. Great White, so is PE not usually something needed for college admissions?

I was hoping you'd pop in, Corraleno! Thanks for the feedback! (And thank you to your son for the details on what type of assignments are involved!) So glad to hear that the workload is similar to Greek 2.

Hi, Can anyone tell me if the workload/time required for Lukeion's Greek 3 class is different from Greek 2? And, if it is, how? My son has taken Greek 1 & is taking Greek 2 at Lukeion and would like to take Greek 3 next year. We're wondering if he should anticipate a heavier time commitment for Greek 3. I know the material will be more advanced, but that doesn't necessarily mean it will take more time. Does the Greek 3 class do word studies like the Latin 3 class? Thank you! yvonne

Thanks, EndOfOrdinary. I was thinking of having him do DO this summer; I hadn't even thought of doing it after the Latin & French AP's next year. That would actually make more sense since that's when his load will really lighten up. Hm. Thank you!

That idea just occurred to me! :) It sounds like DO's physics course counts as a "lab science," and he could do that, or half of it, this summer, and finish the second half over the course of next year. I hate to ask him to work over the summer, but that might be the only solution. Thank you!

Thanks, Kai! That's a relief. California is such a fringe case, it's hard to know what works in the more rational states.

Does DO's Physics course count as a "lab science" for the purposes of filling the standard college admissions requirement for "3 lab sciences" assuming the student does any labs included in the course? (In CA, if you're home schooling with a charter & want it listed as an a-g lab science on the student's transcript, it would not. You have to do labs with an outside vendor....) Thanks, yvonne Thanks

Thank you so much for helping me think this through, Laura and forty-two. I so appreciate it. Forty-two, if he were just taking the next higher level of Greek and Latin, I think he'd be fine. The problem is that next year he will need to add some sort of history to his schedule if he wants to meet the standard college admissions requirement of a minimum 3 years of history. This year, he did not take history in order to make room for Greek 2. It's been a heavy, but doable load. I don't know if adding in a 7th course, history, next year is at all realistic. I was also thinking that one option might be to skip science next year. The standard college admissions minimum science requirement seems to be 3 years. He took biology (w/ lab) this year. He could take physics in 11th and chem in 12th and still meet the 3 year min. Is that a bad idea? Or, theoretically, he could double up on sciences in 11th or 12th when he's no longer taking Latin & French. He wouldn't be thrilled with that idea, but maybe it's the answer. I think your idea about laying out the facts for him might be the best approach. He really needs to make the decision. The thing is he's very diligent and tends to want to do what's "expected." ("If everyone takes three years of history, or if I need 4 years of science, I'll do it.")

Cosmos, You're correct about the TPS French sequence. What's a little odd about it is that TPS French 1 covers BJU's French 1 text, French 2 covers one half the BJU French 2 text, French 3 covers the second half of the BJU French 2 text, and French 4/5 uses French lit (all in French, of course.) I've been super happy with the lit-based French 4/5 class; I haven't seen lit-based French classes like that anywhere else besides the 4-year colleges/universities or a few of the private high schools near us. It's called "French 4/5" because a student can take it one year as "French 4," using certain works of French lit. The next year, Mme S uses a second set of texts so the student can take a second year of lit-based French, "French 5." Then the 2 year cycle repeats. To prep for the AP, there's a "French AP Supplement" class (at a much lower cost) that a student can take simultaneously with TPS French 4/5. HTH, yvonne

Has anyone's student taken Greek 1, Greek 2 and then waited a year to take Greek 3? Has it worked? One of my boys is taking Greek 2 & Latin 3 (Lukeion) and French 4 (TPS) this year, in 9th. He wants to continue with Greek 3 next year, which would mean his 10th grade year would look like this: English Algebra 2 Physics (or Chemistry) World History (or Omni 3 at WHA) AP Latin AP French Greek 3 I don't see how he can possibly fit it all in unless we really tone down one or more of the standard classes. To take some of the pressure off next year, I'm wondering if it would be possible for him to take a year off of Greek in 10th and then pick back up with Greek 3 in 11th, when he'll be done with Latin & French. He won't be happy with that idea, but I don't know how else to manage this. If he knew he wanted to go into a language-related field (archeology? classics? seminary? foreign service?...), I could see toning down the math or science or history, but he has no clue what he wants to study in college, let alone what field be might want to go into. Any suggestions?

:bigear: Wondering about this for my rising 10th grade boys.

Just looked on my shelf... That's exactly the one we use.

At one point, I had a 2006 and a 2012 edition on hand, picked two or three chapters, and compared the two in detail. There was very, very little content difference between the two. Some pictures were different. Sometimes chapter questions were located in different sections of the chapter in the different editions (ie, all right up front at the very beginning vs questions at the beginning of the specific section they pertained to, etc.) Really, nothing at all significant beyond the huge price difference. It was the first time I saw firsthand how a textbook publisher makes minimal changes (esp. w/ pictures so it looks different at first glance) to sell more texts & combat the used market, I suppose. I opted for the older edition that had a corresponding study guide.

I don't know of any online classes, other than Scout (and I don't know if those are live or async), that provides approved/official a-g classes. If you're with a charter, your student can study a subject, using one of the a-g approved textbooks on your charter's list, and complete & submit certain "key assignments" to get a-g credit for the subject. If you do that, that course will be labeled "a-g Biology" or "a-g Geometry" or whatever on your student's transcript. If you find an online course that teaches the subject using that a-g approved textbook, your student could take the online course. As long as he completes the "key assignments," including a midterm and final, and submits them to the charter as documentation, the charter will label the course as an a-g xxx course on the transcript. The charter only really cares that the student used an approved text and completed the required assignments, not whether the parent, or a tutor, or an online instructor, or an alien from Mars taught the subject. If you're an independent home schooler, I think you can use the Scout courses to claim a-g credit, but I'm not sure. I don't know of any other way to get a-g credit as a home schooler. It's a real pain, even using a charter, and I've come to think that it really is not worth it.

These look interesting. What's the difference between IGCSE and "A level" ? Have you used any of the classes by any chance?

Windows to the World: Intro to Literary Analysis was great in a small group setting. Easily teachable & fun.

Thank you so much, Lisa, for writing up all those details. There are some solid, practical things in there that I can start working on this week! Thank you! yvonne

Lisa, It looks like your son successfully took AP English Language as a sophomore? What writing experience did he have going into the class? Would a student going into the AP English Lit need the same sort of experience, do you think? Thank you! yvonne

I'm looking at classes for my rising 10th graders and was wondering if anyone has a student who's taken an Omni course with Tom Vierra? I'd appreciate any feedback you might have about him and his classes. (Feel free to PM if that's more convenient!) Thank you! yvonne

I'm looking at courses for my rising 10th graders next year, specifically the Great Conversations 3 or 6 course. If your student has taken a Great Conversations course at Wilson Hill, I'd love to hear how it went....What was the work load like? How much writing do the students do in the way of essays? Were the essays handed in and how much feedback does the student receive on them? Did the students do any longer papers, and, if so, what kind of topics were assigned for those? (Please PM if that's more convenient!) Thank you! yvonne

pm'd you, but mentioning it here in case others are interested.... Circe Institute does offer online LToW classes, if you like LToW but don't want to teach it yourself.