I have gone round and round - SL Core B, SL Core B&C, MOH, and now here I am with a little more than 22 days before we are start back to school and I'm still wishy-washy about the final choice - perhaps someone more seasoned can help put a stop to this. :) I would prefer that I combine my 4th (a VSL/very bright but immature for 9) ds and a 7th grade ds (dyslexia and dysgraphia, me oh my) together for history (I do, for real, have science selected and I'm shocked!). Last year I did HOD Beyond with younger (although we skipped parts, the readings were too short to engage him but he loved the hands-on parts) and A Living History Book 2 (Angela O'Dell) for the older. He loved going down rabbit trails as interests arose and moving on when things were just so-so. I had originally planned on Book 3 (modern history for the most part) for the oldest and HOD Bigger for youngest but I'm worried about spreading myself too thin (I've got a high schooler than will need me for chemistry and geometry) and a new college freshman that has hearing disabilities so I'm not sure how much help he'll need as he adjusts to a classroom setting. Okay, way too much information but at least you know where I'm coming from. I need a guide, a plan - something that I open - look at box and know what to do. My hesitation to the HOD/Living History is one, history rotation for 7th grader (I'd prefer to hit American History in 9th for him and save the world/ancients for later due to maturity/skill-wise) and can I do all that in a day! I've narrowed it down to MFW -CTG - hesitation is this - is the content to hard for the younger? Is he going to get anything from this? I love the idea of music and art incorporated within but I could order Artistic Pursuits (if I feel I could add in more content to a day). HOD Preparing - (yes I know it is an overview of world history rather than a commitment to a time period) but I love the looks of CHOW and Grandpa's Box and the short lessons. I like the introduction and gradual instruction in narration (neither are able to do at this point). I'd only use for the history/research and perhaps Bible. My youngest places in Bigger based on writing abilities but he does better when the content is more challenging with regards to reading. I can't get a gauge at what the projects are like past the first week. While youngest likes the paper stuff, older does not - what other things are they doing? Some other option? I thought about MOH but worried that I'd need to add this or add that - is it really enough to just read through? I'd need something to add that is visual (not DVD) for my VSL learner. Help!

I don't come to this board very often but when I saw the title I had to visit further. I can't tell you very much about the experience of getting the job through the Foreign Service - that is because my dad was the FSO. He worked for the Agency for International Development. He had a financial background and his job was to help the underdeveloped country use the money the US provides to AID them in growing their country. My mom also worked with the US Embassy as an Embassy nurse (another exciting job getting to travel to other locations at times to bring patients back to the US). I don't have much knowledge of how my dad got the job, how long it took, etc. but I do know that being with AID meant that we got post assignments that were not the plush countries - I grew up in Africa and South Korea - but that didn't mean that we were in the same living situations as the natives from that country. I loved, loved, love growing up overseas. I had an excellent education in the American International Schools - classes were small, the schools are basically "private" in that only Americans and select other countries or companies could attend. I remember attending 8th grade with a Dutch girl (school is completely English) and my teacher's husband worked for Pepsi. When we were living in West Africa you had the option of attending the French school but my parents didn't choose that option. Unfortunately when I hit 9th grade there was no were local schooling options and I had to return to the US and live with grandparents for a year until my family returned state-side. On the flipside, my sister spent her entire high school years attending the American school in Kenya - so it all has to do with the assignment you are given. (You are typically given a choice - we almost went to Indonesia on our first assignment but ended up in Korea). Coming from the kid standpoint, it was wonderful. We had close friends; they meant a lot to you (unlike here in the US where they are a dime a dozen and if you have a fight, who cares, on to the next one). You visited many wonderful places, learned cultures, customs, an appreciation for all that you are blessed with as a citizen of the US. Was it easy moving around, well, in the FSO, you might move every 2 years but more like 4 - I'd say a bit easier than the military family who may have to move a few years in just a year! My parents had many friends just like myself and my sister while overseas - you are a small American community (although sometimes you do socialize with others from other countries or businesses). You support one another and help one another - again, this is not something I've found here stateside and miss a lot. Was it easy not having the latest styles - nah. Being able to run to Walmart and get the latest new toy - nope. I didn't have tv (until the early 80s when in Kenya and people stateside taped the tv shows and mailed them and everyone took turns) so I read a lot of books (I would have loved Sonlight!!!) We played - a lot! Okay, sorry, no answers about how to find the job but thought I'd give you the perspective from a kid - who is now all grownup and a mom herself. If my dh could have had a job like that we'd have done it in a heartbeat and never looked back!

Love the ideas! Thank you. Does anyone know what I'd need to order from MCT? Or should I start with Sentence Family?

I am going to attempt to begin teaching my ds (entering 4th but on the immature side due to VSL) writing. I need something that is very visual, flow charts or some type of "charts" to show the progression through the steps (as you can see from my weak description that even I am struggling on figuring out what I really need to make this first step into the writing process a success). Would WriteShop Primary be what I'm looking for? Writing Tales? Other ideas? He easily tires from writing so I imagine I'll have to scribe for awhile. Grammar included is fine but not a game changer.

My ds is dyslexic, now entering 7th. I've tried some writing programs but nothing was making any progress until I realized that I needed to train his brain to think logically and clearly. I did WWE 1 when he 10. Gasp! But, the copy work was short and didn't overwhelm him. The stories were not hard to follow and he was able to remember what he had read - not when we first started but about 1/3 of the way through. We stuck with it and in the end his memory skills were clearer, logical and we even ended up getting many of the books from the library to read because he was hooked to hear more. Now, last year I tried to follow on with WWE 2 and yeah, no, that was not working. Just too much - longer copy work, the writing increased and he was shutting down so I tried Winning with Writing (and went down a few levels). Big space to write, black & white pictures, short daily lesson. Well, after a few weeks he was doing most of the work himself and retention has been accomplished. I have found that some kids with dyslexia need to be taught, retaught, and sometimes taught again - in varying ways - to master those skills and most importantly, to retain them. I am going to look through some of the more fun assignments that Elizabeth has posted because variety during the week seems to go over so much better. I've also thought about the WriteShop Primary Level D as an option. Common complaint has been too drawn out on the assignments but perhaps this is where a dyslexic student would flourish?

Listening with all ears here! I have an 18 year old that did not pass the placement testing for English at the CC (I had a feeling) because of his LD's and severe hearing loss so I need to remediate through December for a retake and hopefully he'll pass without any college remedial writing/reading. I did sign up for an IEW webinar for Monday night and the presentation is for a pilot program to help seniors/college-age kids write and they are going to sign up beta testers of the program for free so hoping.......free is good since I've got a big tuition/books bill coming up in 2 weeks for him.

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I've got a small issue and perhaps someone has a few ideas that I could check out. My ds, just graduated from HS is enrolled at the local CC. He had to take math and English placement tests. He did awesome on the math and placed well into the college level coursework he needed but English, ugh! Unfortunately this was probably going to happen no matter what as he has a severe hearing disability and I've been working with him all along but he probably needed another year to be on level but we decided to just let him attempt the placements and see where the chips fell. After speaking with the counselor he needs remedial reading (but only 1 class) which is fine but they are changing the whole system in January so she suggested we not enroll for this course and wait. Writing, well, he didn't place at all (missed it by 2 pts.) so he's eligible to retest when ready (and he may also be able to retest on he reading) so I want to spend the next 4/5 months remediating so he can place in the right level (or minimally just 1 level below in both). The placement tests they use is Compass and the writing portion requires the student to edit, on screen (which is part of the problem for my ds) an essay so I need something that works on editing documents (I guess) and lots of reading comp stuff. I thought about IEW Fix It but what other options? Would something from the Critical Thinking Co. work? The best part of all this is that my ds is motivated to work hard and make the needed goals necessary to succeed so we're on the right track. There were plenty of other options to take this semester (math and IT) so he's got enough to keep him busy at CC, phew!

Thanks so much Donna for your insight - especially in comparison with HOD. I, personally, would have been an SL kiddo because I loved to read (I grew up overseas with no tv/no distractions) and my kids are all so different - especially my youngest with VSL traits. I didn't use Little Hearts although I tried - not a good fit. I used Beyond last year with him and so many times I'd finish reading something and he couldn't even remember what I read about - it just didn't hook his attention. The craft projects were okay - but certainly didn't help him retain anything or make a connections. I've used Beyond and Bigger in their entirety for my middle ds and he loved them but he's dyslexic with auditory strengths so it was fine except for the writing. I've also used RTR for my dd (another dyslexic kiddo) and the reading was too much for her but, in reality, the older guides would probably be a better fit for Mr. VSL later on down the road. I have many of the books for Preparing but he's not ready for the writing portion because I've thought about just using the history portion but I really love the books from SL so much more. It is nice to know that we wouldn't necessarily be dropping in to the study of history in the middle of things and frankly he'll have more exposure to ancients later when his mind is probably more able to retain and actually get more from it. I think I'll have to look a little more closely at Core C - now that I've got the approval to do :-) I greatly appreciate all that have helped me talk through this decision - grateful to all!!!!

Would I, in the long run, be better off with just staring with Core B? I'm so worried that I won't have enough time to read and do all the B&C stuff with teaching 2 (actually 3 - will need to help my oldest get settled with community college courses and will be tutoring him on writing) - I really had hoped on combining my 2 youngest in some sort of history course but I don't think that is going to be a good fit (my rising 7th grade ds has begun that teenage independence thing which is good so I want to be able to help encourage that independence as much as possible). AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the encouragement - now to find it for a good price! I actually feel at peace with the decision which is the biggest battle of all!

For whatever reason I am really, really struggling on finding the right program for my youngest who is a "young" 9 visual-spatial young man. While I love HOD this is not the greatest fit for him in the younger years because the readings are too short - just as he becomes engaged in the story it is time to do the activity and move on - he needs longer reading. I've been doing a lot of research on VSL kids and while SL doesn't seem to be the obvious choice apparently it is; especially in the younger years because these kids develop lots of vocab and pictures in their head as they listen to these stories. I guess some kids need some hands-on stuff and he is one that enjoys a short, short activity (the one thing in HOD that mostly worked if it wasn't too babyish) but this is not a deal breaker for this particular child. I originally thought about starting with Core B (1) but I think that is mostly on the young side but Core D would be on the older side (I've begun to think like Goldilocks here - too hot, too soft,....) so now I'm looking at either Core C (yes, I know starting in the middle but not sure that at 9 he necessarily has a great grasp of historical time anyways) or Core B&C. Everything I've read says B&C is very overwhelming - is this true? doable? reasonable? Cost is a big issue for me this year as we've got one heading into CC so our budget is perhaps a bit tighter this year. I feel bad even looking at something else seeing as I have HOD's Bigger on my shelf but those Eggleston books - not going to cut if for this kiddo. Help!!!!

I just can't use WP - I don't like the same price/less books, some stuff only available on download, business practices - used them in the past but just can't go back. Would love to use Sonlight but can't figure out what level I really could combine these two with and still stay sane? Love the looks of Biblio but I thought the answers to the worksheets were found in SOTW and not MOH. SOTW was fine but oldest has already read that book and the youngest was okay with it but there is minimal visuals. Ugh! I suppose MFW might be the way to go - I, for some crazy reason, was hoping there was something else out there that was scheduled out for the "unorganized" homeschooling mom. Back to weighing the pros and cons.....

that offers All planned out for mom (I need to know when, teach what, each day...hold my hand kind of thing) Visual - visual - visual for my VSL kiddo (4th grader - on the immature side) Some easy projects are fine, light mapping, light worksheet work (7th grader is dyslexic/dysgraphic). I prefer to do the reading rather than turning something over to them that would be totally independent. I think I've got science figured out (CKE physics with the Engino kits per Timberdoodle) and NL for the younger I wanted to do the Bible program where they draw the stick figures (the name has escaped me) but this is not a deal breaker if that were included. Ancients or Middle Ages. I've read SOTW 1 already. I have MOH but can't figure out how I could make it more visually appealing to my youngest. Ideas.......

No expert here for sure and I have struggled finding the right place for my ds (12) who has severe dyslexia/dysgraphia. I have used both the TT and BJU over the years with this particular child and after watching him work through state-required testing (CAT-E) I could see where his strengths and weaknesses were and perhaps what I was missing from the picture. BJU is spiral - so the kids get a bit of a new skill each day and then the next day new skill added on. Not sure if you are using the new 3rd editions because those provided review pages both on the CD and a set of review questions at the end of each chapter and was scheduled each day - so the review is there from previous chapters but it comes back to the method of the lessons themselves - spiral versus mastery. TT is more spiral than BJU so if your child needs more review then TT may not be the best option. I would really talk with your son and show him some samples of possible options. My ds was okay with BJU but what he didn't like was the lack of writing space and in Grade 6 (I use a grade behind and have always planned on skipping the Fundamentals/Math 7 level) it switches to copying the problems yourself! Yeah, I know, I can do that for him but I've got 3 other kids with varying needs (one head off to CC with a hearing disability and I'm not sure how much support I'll need to be to get him acclimated) so I was looking at options. I realized that my son needs more mastery rather than more topics - all the different topics has caused him the inability to really master any of the basics well because there is always something new being introduced. They barely get one thing down and boom, something new the next day and with kids that struggle - handing them more problems each day is the fastest way to have them shut down on you, right? Yesterday my ds watched the sample for Epsilon on MUS (I think that is the fractions one) and he was like wow! that made more sense. (Now mind you, with BJU we had recently finished up the last of the fraction lessons and he could hardly remember the process). He also liked all the white space on the paper so that is a definite plus. I'm torn between stepping back to the fractions level or teach more fractions over the rest of the summer and starting the last level before PreAlgebra. Bottom line lesson for me was - he needed a mastery program which is the one thing we had not been doing in math -- but in all his other subjects. This is why for once his grammar lessons stuck because we worked with FLL this year and you worked those skills all year and he retained it. I needed to do the same for math. One thing I did institute last year was a fun math day and we worked through the Mathtacular 4 word problem program (have not completed it - will do so this year but it is geared for more middle school range) and this year we'll do the SCM Own your Own Business program on the off day to practice skills in a more fun way (as in they don't notice it is a review :-)

I need, want, desire a math recommendation that will be the end of all my frustrations with my ds (ha ha). He is definitely a VSL learner. He's entering 4th - and he's more on the "better late" maturity level. This year we've used a mish-mash of Singapore Primary 1B, Life of Fred Elementary (5 books thus far) and he started TT Math 4 in the Spring and rolls right along and he used the Dreambox learning every day, too. I have found with him that he doesn't need a lot of repetition - once it is mastered he needs to move on and he can remember the skills way later down the road without review. (Typical VSL) I just don't enjoy being all over the place with him. Last week we had to do the CAT-E test (for the state - I don't hold a lot of value in these tests as I know what his strengths and weaknesses are throughout the year) and we haven't really covered multiplication or division and there were about 8 questions and he panicked but I just explained that multiplication was repeated addition using the sample of 2 x 2 (that you are adding 2 2 times). Well, he looked at the following problems and choose all the correct answers - including 6 x 8 and and there was a problem where you had to times something by 100 - he just knew the answers. I don't know how he did that. Same thing happened with division! So here I am trying to figure out how to help grow those skills, without losing a foundation in his math, keep him challenged and growing. I thought about RightStart but when I work through the placement questions, it says level C? I will continue with the Fred books because they are quick and easy to do each day. I know Singapore is great for VSLs but I have hard time teaching it because I need some type of guidance, lesson plan (love the BJU TMs for example). I prefer to teach it rather than it be an independent subject that he learns on his own. TT has been fine and we could stick with that but just wondering if I'm missing something here?

I started typing this yesterday and talked myself out of it by saying "oh just stick with what you are doing" but I'm not entirely convinced that is the right option. My ds is entering 7th this year and has used BJU and TT over the years. TT worked for 2 years but halfway through level 5 he couldn't stand the voice so I ended up teaching the rest. I choose BJU, mostly because that is what I know and have used for my other kiddos, and used Grade 5 since it was the new 3rd edition. I chose grade 5 because, as with my dyslexics, one needs to teach, reteach, review and sometimes reteach until you get retention. I also chose 5 because it was the newest 3rd edition and had the work text option. He has done fine, no complaints on my part but he hates it! He says there is just too much on the paper and the space is small (I do copy many problems on to graph paper or scrap paper). I keep seeing people recommend MUS - would this be a good option? He does enjoy watching/visual for learning but I want to be careful in how much screen time I add to his learning (he'll be using VP self-paced and probably BJU Reading online). Not sure what direction to go to prepare him for prealgebra in 8th (I'm not big on doing Algebra in 8th for various reasons). MUS looks great but worried about retention and about reviewing all the other things he has learned. It seems as though he can suffer from the brain drain from Friday to Monday so I'm worried if he only works on multiplication one year and then division the next, will he remember multiplying? I guess math is so challenging because it requires all that writing! and with dysgraphia you are already set up for the challenge. Ugh!!!!! I need guidance, a schedule, scripted is okay, not a lot of clutter on the pages and no drill/kill (that will surely shut him down for sure). We've had great success this year working through Sonlight's Mathtacular 4 word problems program this year (a lot of fun) and I have the SCM Business program on my shelf that we could use to practice some math skills, too - ideas?

What would you recommend for a visual spatial kiddo entering 4th that has had little writing, other than some minimal copy work. He is on the young side of 4th (my ds tend to mature later rather than on time). Since he's VSL he hates writing but his mind is filled with oh so much creativity. I saw a sample of the Write Shop Primary 4 (or was it 3) that included the lapbooks for grammar that looked like a viable option? I want to focus on getting him started on writing - creatively or otherwise. I don't learn or think like him so teaching him has always been interesting and what I've found is he needs variety because once the skill has been mastered he needs to move on with something else. Ideas? I don't mind being the scribe but I need something visual, planned/scheduled - something that keeps me on track, too.

I tried that program for my then 10th grader (I think we used in 9th) and it was a bust but what did work wonders was the Giggly Guide to Grammar (I found it at Rainbow Resources). It sounds like it is geared for young kiddos but it is not - definitely covers it all and is a nice addition to the flip side of serious essay writing - you get to be creative. The book comes with a CD and you can print out the pages as you need them which makes it reusable.

I used HOD RTR last year for a 9th grader - and I would be hesitant to push forward even half-speed after what you experienced last year with CTC. I know HOD is big on placement based on the first chart but there is just so much more to placement and the amount of work required. RTR is heavy and a lot! especially if you do the Shakespeare, poetry and art appreciation. The books are beautiful yes, but man, it takes a lot of work even for the best of readers! The first half of the year is like the little blue engine climbing up the hill - I think I can, I think I can and the content is not necessarily easily understood, especially for the sensitive child. My dd was 13/14 and I still skipped over some stuff because it just wasn't necessary (Carrie does give you notes in the guide to be aware of potential gruesome details). This is not a pleasant time period that is full of handsome knights and pretty maidens but full of all the saints and their stories of giving their lives to share the Gospel and they don't necessarily end well, kwim? Now, once you get through the two books you finally get to the MOH III Reader and it is a beautiful book - full of color and definitely a lighter read and tone - just like the train coming down the hill - with ease. Now I must say that I love HOD but have been doing a lot of soul-searching myself about whether all that work is necessarily the goal for my kiddos. The books she schedules are awesome but when you start taking out this or that because it makes the day long it makes mom begin to think about the money spent, the tools not used, etc. I know self learning is perhaps the goal but I'm not sure that I want my 4th or 5th or 6th grader sitting off by themselves checking the boxes as they do the work and there is just minimal narration interaction with me. I want discussion and that is something that you don't necessarily get in the higher guides. I want to be engaged in their learning and again, I'm finding that the higher guides remove much of mom from the equation. (And this from the mom who had to read much of the history books because my dd has dyslexia!). Just a different perspective here.

I've read through all of the VSL options and all about VSL kiddos and at first I thought my ds was VSL learner that needed visuals but videos and computer stuff has produced low retention (except for TT math along with LOF) but I think perhaps he's more auditory with print - phonics has been easy to learn, talks to himself a lot, comes up with a topic out of nowhere but he does really well with spatial activities (mazes, etc.) Has anyone used a boxed curriculum for kids like this? Like MFW, HOD, SL, something else? I had tried SOTW but no pictures in the main reading although there are picture book suggestions, hands-on stuff. We are using SL science which uses the Usborne (we are working through the space book from SL 1 science I believe) and he retains all of it and will pick something that stands out and wants to know more (like tonight's moon which is good). I really just need to be able to have a curriculum (perhaps it should be more specific in subject - History) that I can just order from year to year and count on it and not stress myself out each year. I look at HOD (which we are finishing up Beyond but I don't use the LA, never got around to the RA as we just read aloud things we have around or he picks up a book of his own interest). We don't do a lot of the projects - some he'd like but some are beneath his level. Ugh. I have Bigger on the shelf but really dragging my feet on this (not sure why - other than the Eagleston books - old language, no pics). VSL kids hate writing - this kid is no different. We do a few minutes of a handwriting sheet and AAS spelling but the idea of him drawing a map or writing a small outline - nope, not there --- yet. He'll get there. We won't use the science, again, maybe not the LA although I could try the R&S on a whiteboard. Ugh!!!!! I love the looks of the other guides and I know they only get better.....He'd probably love Preparing but the writing will hold him back. Creatively he's awesome but getting it on paper on his own - nope, not just yet. I just feel like after 4 years I should have something that is finally connecting with him - and other than science - not seeing it. Help! He's very bright, sharp and I guess I'm just not challenging him but before I go and throw more money and yet another program I need direction and perspective.

I understand that history books have misinformation - and depending on your views that can be a deciding factor on whether or not you use such book - and discuss/edit for content, etc. What bothered me about the CAW book was this is a spine, written by WP that you are to read to your child and it about a culture and the typical day or traditions that a person from that country would do/experience. This is not historical fact, yes, but when studying about cultures it should be pretty close to fact - especially if you've narrowed it down to an area or city. The info on Kenya was really, really not correct - so, it made me pause to wonder what else was written that was missing the mark - if it were written by a textbook publisher blame them but this was written by WP. Granted, they had a bad editor - just like a bad shipping company, and a bad catalog company, etc.......... There are plenty of people who have had awesome, wonderful experiences (I was one of them a few years ago) and then there are those that did not. I recommended WP to a new home schooler a 2 years ago and felt so bad that she had to call WP at least 8 times to get all of her items that she ordered - it shouldn't be that way.

A few years ago I loved WP - I used their QAW and AW and Sea & Sky. I guess what I loved was that everything was planned out (I need planned out). After awhile I did find that the skill-level was all over the place and so were the assignments. I tried AS 1 and we would be reading about one subject but the assignment for the note booking page was entirely different (and not something we had even covered). I emailed some questions concerning their LA and the readers. I couldn't quite gauge what the true reading levels were for the younger sets and the books for the middle school levels were the same for the high school - huh? I was not given a straight answer but was told that all home schooled kids are advanced readers so the books they schedule are much more challenging. Well, the "all home schooled kids" turned me off because, ugh!, I don't have advanced readers at my house (dyslexia got in the way of that). I want to deal with a company that respects and understands all types of kids and their needs. The final straw was when I was actually considering using the CAW program and finally was able to see a few samples for their spine (written by WP) and the subject was Africa and Kenya in particular and guess what - the information was wrong. How do I know - I personally lived there for 4 years. Now, again, I find myself looking at the new fancy catalog but noticed all the ebook stuff and they've eliminated the read-alouds - I need to sit down and do the math and compare last year's catalog with this year's catalog but I'm not thinking the costs are any lower as claimed? Don't hold me on this but something was just not sitting right in my mind. I put the catalog down and walked away....

Oh my, thank you for your response which makes a whole lot of sense in layman's terms. I'm not a writing expert and it is not exactly my strength (I suppose math might be) and writing in my home for my kids has been a struggle but when I take out the fun journal prompt book and ask for responses the narrations are beautiful, creative, and sometimes in need for more effort. I've got 4 kids who have various LDs that are all over the place - severe hearing loss (which has affected reading and writing), dyslexia (2 if not 3 of my 4), dysgraphia and the youngest is VSL and still trying to figure him out. Curricula is written, I suppose, for a wide-range of learning styles/needs and when you have a child that falls just outside that range do you go with it and try to make it work or come up with something on your own? I need to be more encouraging when writing and bring the fun back in - games have a place. It is just hard to know what direction to go when the arrow seems to be pointing in a direction that is opposite the popular one that most everybody else travels. My mind has been swirling with the various writing styles - copywork, outlining, 4square, IEW, classical, textbook --- ack! I guess I needed some reassurance that my thoughts were relevant and not "out there" and creative writing isn't a bad thing. I truly appreciate the time you spent to type out that post to me in this big world wide web - thank you.

I was reading through the "college" thread - which was just what I needed because I'm struggling on what to do with my ds who is entering 7th - I just wish I could use a program (exp. SL, MFW, HOD) straight through and not worry about all the LD issues but that is another post - but what caught my attention was the discussion about writing and someone mentioned "traditional approach to writing" and I realized I don't know what the differences are to writing and frankly, what is best for a dyslexic/dysgraphic kiddo (not to mention one for a VSL kiddo). What is a traditional approach? What are the other approaches to writing? I understand the narration (verbal is easy but putting it on paper - that is where the problems begin) and copy work (again, dysgraphia). I understand the value of copy work but only after working 10 years in a law firm and you are typing pretty much the same thing over and over - you learn to see the mistakes. WWE level 1 works great in getting his brain trained to think and listen but when we got to WWE 2 and having to write the narrations - not good. So what are the other options? I'm lost.