Western Civilization by Jackson Spielvogel VP recommends it along with Omnibus, but you could find a used copy and an older version.

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Just in case anyone is interested, also found these threads about Athenaze helpful. Elementary Greek or Athenaze? Athenaze (self teach) schedule?

Okay, change of plans. After further research and discussion with my young man, it looks like Classical/Ancient/Attic may be the plan of attack, mainly with the point of being able to read Koine but also knowing Ancient/Classical/Attic. But absolutely not FFG, as he has a strong dislike for most MP materials; they do not fit his style of learning. Convince me otherwise? I'm still looking at the possibility of CAP's Greek for Children and/or Athenaze. ETA: Kiddo voted for Athenaze. Thank you everyone!

I'm thinking materials to use at home (self-taught or DVD's) and Koine. (I didn't know the difference between Classical and Koine until you asked, so thank you for asking.) Your plan seems like a great idea! I'll think we'll do something along those lines.

I was hoping that CAP offered Greek Alive! like their Latin materials, but now I'm not sure where to turn. First Form Greek by Memoria Press? Any recommendations for 2 years of Greek (11-12th grades)?

This is good to know, since my ds hated having to deal with NetBeans that was used by another.

Does Edhesive use NetBeans?

As a homeschooler, has anyone received dual enrollment scholarships? Our local CC workforce training center offers partial scholarships to anyone enrolling regardless of dual enrollment or not, but the remaining balance would still need to be paid. Are there other dual enrollment scholarships to homeschoolers outside of enrolled government/public school discounts? If not and funds are tight, then would it be a better idea to hold off until after senior year when considered a regular college student with the possibility for more merit scholarships being available as well as FAFSA?

The idea of all that Omnibus had to offer was the draw, but the execution of Omnibus 1 was the deterrent. It came down to the content of the Omnibus 1 text that disappointed and repelled us right out of the gate (e.g., clearly interjected opinion and hypothetical interpretation rather than valid arguments backed by solid scripture references in the books of the Bible commentaries). Our thoughts being, if we couldn't trust those portions of the text, then how could we trust anything else—answers to provided comprehension questions, other historical commentaries, etc.? That being said, we gave it multiple chances before we jumped ship, which was somewhere around First and Second Samuel or Kings (after Genesis, Exodus, Epic of Gilgamesh, and Code of Hammurabi). Unfortunately, we found our doubts to be proven true again and again. It was not a decision made lightly. I was not one that was going to jump on the bandwagon of other naysayers who were obviously against D. Wilson. I wanted our decision to be based on our own experience. I wish I could give you more specifics, but short of going back through the text, I don't recall exactly where the discrepancies are located, as quite some time has passed since last we read Omnibus 1. On a side note, my young man also remembers a level of dryness and redundancy in the text and follow-up sessions that drove him batty.

We had started out with Omnibus I, but quickly put an end to it. After researching for an alternative, OWC won! We began with The Greeks and are finishing The Romans this year; we will be working through Christendom through 2019-2020, with Early Moderns following in 2020-2021. For us, OWC is the perfect balance of reading The Great Books from a Christian worldview (without a denominational slant), lectures, discussions, and student output by way of comprehension questions (to test understanding of the reading assignments and lectures) and term/final papers. Each unit has a completely workable nine-week schedule provided. The reading is not too overwhelming or soul-crushing (as mentioned by the pp with regards to Omnibus). Presently, we enjoy most of the daily reading together, aloud—approximately 40-ish pages.

Well, not Omnibus, but... from our experience with OWC: The Greeks and The Romans, I've compiled a list of Ancient books not to miss (that we've read thus far) that correspond with the following VP Primary lists. Not all of the books are fun per se, but all are informative and worth the read. (*We have yet to read this year). (The Greeks) 1st Semester Omnibus I: The Odyssey Aeschylus II (Oresteia Trilogy) Sophocles I The Landmark Herodotus The Last Days of Socrates by Plato *Plutarch's Lives 1st Semester Omnibus IV: The Iliad by Homer Aristophanes Euripides Landmark Thucydides Aristotle (The Romans) 2nd Semester Omnibus I: The Aeneid The Early History of Rome by Livy *The Twelve Caesars *Julius Caesar 2nd Semester Omnibus IV: Ovid's Metamorphoses *Cicero *Annals of Imperial Rome *The Early Christian Fathers It was interesting to compare the book lists and get an idea of how each schedules and tackles them. There are various preferred translators/editors between the two providers, and there are quite a few different historical book selections suggested by OWC that are not listed here, and vice versa a couple by VP. As for the Secondary books, he just reads (or has read) at his leisure the ones in which he's interested, and I add it to his book lists in our comprehensive records.

The Greeks and The Romans could be combined into one year using The Essentials Schedule for Old Western Culture.

I modeled mine after TheHomeScholar, Lee Binz. They are not exactly the same, but similar. In fact, I'm modeling our record keeping after her book (Setting the Records Straight) and online resource (the Comprehensive Record Solution). Here is a sample of her course description.

Unfortunately, yes. Our local high school is now also "closed campus". I was told that I would have to enroll my young man in the local school district in order for him to take any AP Exam at that local high school. Absolutely ludicrous! They are NOT homeschooler friendly at all. I found another high school out of state that is welcoming and open to homeschoolers taking AP Exams. Thankfully, their test site is not too much farther away. I'm actually relieved that it worked out this way, because I strongly dislike, to say the least, the local high school as it is the one in my hometown from which I graduated... and never want to have to return... or call... or contact in any way... ever again... from this point on and forevermore. 🙄😂 For the future, I believe that I've found a local private school wherein he can eventually take the PSAT, SAT and/or ACT tests.

Perhaps doing just the odd or even numbered problems?

Those of you have gone the DVD route, did you find it beneficial to have a printed TM handy even though access to a digital copy is available online? I'm told that they'll discount the printed TM by 50% if I want to purchase it. What do you recommend?

I believe the time your DS spent in both VT Algebra and VT Geometry is normal, especially for VT in my opinion. And just to add a little perspective or perhaps a reminder as encouragement, both are considered Honors courses by the publisher. Out of curiosity, did your ds complete Module F of VT Geometry? It is my understanding that it is being offered as an online course directly through VT.

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Perhaps it depends upon the Lang to which they are referring? Cynthia Lang is the teacher for AP Computer Science A. Rebekah Lang, Cynthia's daughter, is the teacher for both AP Computer Science Principles and Intro to Computer Science. My young man was enrolled in AP CS A with Cynthia Lang. In our experience, it was faster to receive a response from the teacher than the TA, but in reading previous reviews perhaps it was not always that way? Regardless, I wish I had paid more heed to previous reviews regarding this instructor, as I ended up having to withdraw my young man from the course. It was my understanding that the TAs do most, if not all, of the assignment testing/grading. The TAs were former students who get compensated for their time.

I truly appreciate your responses. You have been very helpful!

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My young man is currently taking an AP Computer Science course online wherein the teacher’s aids are returning students from last year’s CS classes who received a score of 5 on the exam. They also tutor the students as needed. Being that there are approximately 46 students in the class, the aids/tutors are assigned to 7-ish students each; the instructor takes on the rest. Perhaps this type of set-up could be an option for your dd after she completes an AP course/exam?

Any thoughts on... demonstration of mastery of a paragraph structure, essay structure, basic grammatical concepts, thesis statement, use of textual evidence, explanation, clear reasoning, and developing knowledge of rhetorical devices? Please, keep it coming!

Agreed. His word selection was not the best at getting the point across. ? Thank you!