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    What word sends you over the edge?

    in General Education Discussion Board

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    I'll second the vote for ending a sentence with a preposition. I don't care if I end up sounding as if I'm speaking Victorian English; I simply can't stand finishing sentences with "at", "with", etc.

     

    I am equally disgusted by ending sentences with prepositions,

     

    And please don't end a sentence with a preposition. "Where is it at?" gets the response of 'behind the at' at our house.

     

    Can't stand people ending a sentence with a preposition. Just crawls all over me. My dh does it all the time!

     

    Many grammarians would disagree with you. :D

     

    From Grammar Girl:

    I'm going to start calling this “grammar myth number one†because nearly all grammarians agree that it's fine to end sentences with prepositions, at least in some cases (1, 2, 3, 4).

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    References

     

     

    Huddleston, R. and Pullman, G.K. A Student's Introduction to English Grammar. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2006, p. 20, 137-8.

    Strumpf, M. and Douglas, A. The Grammar Bible. New York: Henry Holt and Company, 2004, p. 231, 217.

    Thurman, S. The Only Grammar Book You'll Ever Need. Avon: Adams Media, 2003, p.32.

    Stilman, A. Grammatically Correct. Cincinnati: Writer's Digest Books, 2004, p.264.

     

    From http://www.Grammarphobia.com:

    TOMBSTONE: It's wrong to end a sentence with a preposition.

    R.I.P. We can blame an 18th-century English clergyman named Robert Lowth for this one. He wrote the first grammar book saying a preposition (a positioning word, like at, by, for, into, off, on, out, over, to, under, up, with) shouldn't go at the end of a sentence. This idea caught on, even though great literature from Chaucer to Shakespeare to Milton is bristling with sentences ending with prepositions. Nobody knows just why the notion stuck—possibly because it's closer to Latin grammar, or perhaps because the word "preposition" means "position before," which seemed to mean that a preposition can't come last.

     

    At any rate, this is a rule that modern grammarians have long tried to get us out from under.

     

     

    Also see:

    http://www.grammarmudge.cityslide.com/articles/article/1026513/8910.htm

    Do you outline from the core text or another source read during the week?

    in K-8 Curriculum Board

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    Normally only one per week. I don't think two would be terribly difficult as far as the writing goes, but it has the potential to be alot of reading depending on how much you can find on teh topics at the library.

     

    Thanks, Amy.

     

    I've been reading the logic stage history section in the first edition of the WTM since we will be using the white Kingfisher and SWB does say to outline, do outside reading, and write a summary for each section.

     

    I guess I'll wait and see how things go next year. :D I'm pretty sure he could handle all the reading, but I'm concerned about the writing.

    Writing instruction in CLE Language Arts

    in K-8 Curriculum Board

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    How do the writing sections in CLE Language Arts compare to R&S English? I'm particularly looking at 5th-8th grades. The WTM says that if you do the writing sections of R&S you don't need an additional writing program. Would CLE be the same, or do I need to add something else? (I'm leaning toward CLE b/c my mom has taught middle school grammar for 25 years and prefers CLE to R&S.)

     

    TIA!

    Is there a "workbook" that lines up with OPGTR?

    in K-8 Curriculum Board

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    Do you like the Primary phonics? I looked at it a few weeks ago and liked what I saw. I have used ETC in the past. Have you ever used ETC? Why did you choose Primary Phonics over it? Thanks!

     

    I don't remember why I chose Primary Phonics. :D I got them several years ago when my oldest was in K, but he didn't need them. I recently got them back out for my middle who still struggles with reading. I never looked at ETC.

    Facebook - can you remove a pic someone else posted?

    in General Education Discussion Board

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    This is not so. I have a friend who does not have a FB account and she is on picture posted by someone else, and she is tagged. This is one of the things I really dislike about FB. You have 0 control over what's on there even if you don't have an account.

     

    Susie

     

    Your friend is identified in the picture, but tagging means that someone can click on her name and find her and/or other pictures of her.

    A couple of questions about logic stage history the WTM way

    in K-8 Curriculum Board

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    :iagree:

     

    We haven't hit the logis stage yet, but this, in addition to the outside reading, seems like what I would have my kids do. Maybe even choose a number of people over the year to research more in depth.

     

    I plan to require him to pick at least X number of people to study in depth, but I also want him to at least acknowledge all the other famous people on the list. :D I'm thinking, at a minimum, date & place of birth & death and what he/she is most famous for.

    Do you outline from the core text or another source read during the week?

    in K-8 Curriculum Board

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    This is exactly how we do it as well, thought we use the white Kingfisher.

     

    Sorry to resurrect this old thread. :D

     

    We're going to be using the white Kingfisher for our logic stage history spine next year. In order to get through the time period, we'll need to do two two-page spreads each week. Do you have your son go through the writing process for each two-page topic, or do you have him read both and then do the writing/reading for only one of them? TIA!

    A couple of questions about logic stage history the WTM way

    in K-8 Curriculum Board

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    I'm currently working through the logic stage history section in the WTM in preparation for my son starting 5th grade next year and have a few questions.

     

    1. The book says the child should read a section of the spine, list 6-8 interesting facts, do outside reading, write a summary, and make and outline. The spine we are going to use will require him to read four pages each week. That will cover two topics. Should I have him go through the reading/writing process for both topics? Or have him read them both, then pick one for his reading and writing?

     

    2. I'm going to have him create a short biography page for each of the Great Men and Women listed in the WTM as we come to them. What info should I have him list? Birth? Death? What else? I want this to be short because he will be doing lots of other writing.

     

    TIA!

    If I plan to use Rightstart, is level A a "don't miss", or could I wait and begin B?

    in K-8 Curriculum Board

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    If this is your first though, I think you should get it. I got B for ds way back when thinking I'd save money, but it moved way too fast. I didn't know how to slow it down and it's almost more about teaching mom the RS way. You can always easily get B and decide you need A. However, if you're a more by the book kind of person, get A. We hit a wall in B and needed the time from A. Now that I've done this program twice almost all the way through I think I could do it without A like Kathy, but if it was 'my' first 'I' would need it. Just my 2 cents.

     

    :iagree::iagree::iagree:Start with A. For a first timer, I really think A is needed for you as much as your child.

    Hi! I'm new and need Logic stage History help......please!

    in K-8 Curriculum Board

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    Hello,

    My name is Julie and this is my third year doing WTM with our 11 yr. old daughter. We both love it (for the most part :glare:) and because of a crazy first semester, we are just beginning History.........

    HELP! How do you do the Logic stage? It seems complicated with the many-sectioned notebook, outlining, etc.

    Can anyone simplify it for me? I'd be most grateful........

    Thanks!

    Julie

    Married 20 years to Mark

    Anna, 11

    Thomas, Elizabeth, and William, almost 6

     

    I'm in the middle of doing my planning for next year, so you may want to take what I say with a grain of salt. :D

     

    Over the past couple of days, I sat down and outlined the logic stage history section in the WTM. I came away with a much clearer picture of what to do next year. I didn't make a detailed outline. This helped me out *a lot*. I also have an older version of WTM, so I read about logic stage history in it and noted the changes from edition to edition. (I feel some things were clearer in the 1st edition.)

     

    For me, the reason for the notebooks became clear when we started Lively Latin this year. That program has what appears to be an unnecessary and complicated notebook system, but the more we use it, the more I see the brilliance behind it. I think the WTM history notebook will be like that.

     

    For example, if your daughter wants to read about all famous people she studied, she just needs to look in the "Great Men and Women" section; if she wants to review the religious beliefs of people in that time period she just needs to look in the "Religion" section and so on. She'll be doing a timeline that will help her keep things ordered chronologically and the notebook will help her keep things ordered by subject.

     

    HTH

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