Arcadia Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 (edited) "Students enrolling at a California State University campus will no longer have to slog through math or English placement tests to take classes for college credit. Instead, the schools will look at a combination of high school grades, SAT scores and AP scores to decide if incoming students are ready for college-level work. ... The exact grades and scores that will determine whether students are ready for college-level classes are still being decided, but the shift is part of a broader effort to increase graduation rates across the system. ... “I think there is a growing body of evidence nationally that suggests that over-reliance on standardized exams does not serve as a valid or reliable predictor of how well students are likely to perform in college classrooms,†Minor added. While the SAT and AP are standardized tests, CSU will now look at those scores in combination with grades and other factors instead of just a single placement test." http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/08/03/california-state-university-officially-ends-long-time-use-of-placement-tests/ ETA: "Cal Poly says the change in CSU policy on placement tests will have no impact on its campus or new students" http://www.ksby.com/story/36065464/cal-state-university-to-drop-math-english-placement-tests Edited August 4, 2017 by Arcadia in CA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKS Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Perhaps they would do well not to admit students who aren't ready for college level work. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanny Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Perhaps they would do well not to admit students who aren't ready for college level work. +1 That is the issue. Some students, with a university placement exam, will do extremely well, as did the DD of a friend, who tested into an Advanced Calculus course. Others will need Remedial Math courses and should instead be in a Community or Junior College. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susie in CA Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 This goes along with the lowering of standards all across the board. We have seen this in high schools already and now the colleges have to deal with students who are unable to do basic math and complete entry level writing assignments. It's a sad state of affairs. That said I know that the new standardized high school tests for English and Math are now used to replace the placement tests at colleges. I know California Community Colleges place the student in the college level courses based on a specific score on the tests in high school. I am not sure how I feel about this as both my kids have said that these standardized tests are really easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadia Posted August 4, 2017 Author Share Posted August 4, 2017 That said I know that the new standardized high school tests for English and Math are now used to replace the placement tests at colleges.The bar is currently very low for meeting the Fully Ready criteria. However with the placement test no longer offered, homeschool or private school students might have to have a standardized score on hand. SAT and ACT are currently not required for California residents. Below quoted is the current criteria for Fully Ready. English "SAT 550 or higher on EBRW section ACT 22 or higher on the English section AP 3 or higher on the Language & Composition or Literature & Composition EAP Standard Exceeded (Level 4) in CAASPP English CLEP 50 or higher on College Composition, or College Composition Modular" Math "SAT 570 or higher on the Mathematics section SAT subject 550 or higher on the Mathematics IC or ICC ACT 23 or higher on the Mathematics section AP 3 or higher on the Calculus AB or Calculus BC or Statistics EAP Standard Exceeded (Level 4) in CAASPP Mathematics CLEP 50 or higher on Calculus, College Algebra, College Mathematics, or Pre-Calculus" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susie in CA Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 English "SAT 550 or higher on EBRW sectionACT 22 or higher on the English sectionAP 3 or higher on the Language & Composition or Literature & CompositionEAP Standard Exceeded (Level 4) in CAASPP EnglishCLEP 50 or higher on College Composition, or College Composition Modular"Math"SAT 570 or higher on the Mathematics sectionSAT subject 550 or higher on the Mathematics IC or ICCACT 23 or higher on the Mathematics sectionAP 3 or higher on the Calculus AB or Calculus BC or StatisticsEAP Standard Exceeded (Level 4) in CAASPP MathematicsCLEP 50 or higher on Calculus, College Algebra, College Mathematics, or Pre-Calculus" Yes. The tests above in blue are the ones given at the high school level. If the score is a Level 3 then the student is still exempt from placement tests and the Early Start Program if the student takes an approved English and/or Math class in 12th grade. All that aside I find it interesting that over-reliance on standardized test scores is criticized. In reality this is really all the same. Just different tests and different standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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