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DS will be using Fun With Atoms and Molecules for chemistry this coming school year for 3rd grade. I was thinking about fitting in some Great Courses lectures on Audible during his science time. He would probably listen 15 min x 2 days/week.

 

I'm considering the following titles:

 

The Nature of Matter (24 lectures on chemistry)

or

The History of Science: 1700-1900 (picking from the 36 lectures only ones that line up with history - SOTW3, 1600-1850)

or

The Joy of Science (there are 12 on chemistry topics)

 

Have you listened to any of these courses? Would you recommend one over another for a 3rd grader with an excellent vocabulary who enjoys listening to anything if it involves headphones? Would you absolutely NOT recommend this approach?

 

 

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Personally, I would absolutely NOT recommend this approach.  TC lectures are college-like lectures.  They are very dry for a 3rd grader.  There are simply more engaging materials out there for younger kids.  

 

My DH is always listening to Great Courses lectures - philosophy, history, religion, etc. It is a format that DS8 is familiar with, so maybe it won't be that bad? I'll keep working on other ideas, obviously. Thanks for your response!

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If **I** were you, I would put the audio versions of those lectures on in the car for yourself.    I wouldn't schedule them.   I would just make it a point to turn those on when you are driving or doing dishes or anything menial this school year....for yourself.    Tell the child that YOU are interested in these lectures because you are really interested in chemistry and excited to get to study it this year, but do not require them to listen or pay attention in the car.   And I don't mean be sneaky or manipulative about it, I really mean just listen to them yourself for the love of it.   If you hear a neat idea, talk about it over dinner.     If your child happens to listen in while you are in the car, great!   But don't force it.

 

This will accomplish several things:

1)  It will model a love for learning and curiosity for your children.  It will show them that learning doesn't stop when school is over, and we can always follow our interest to learn more.   When I am excited about a topic, it seems to be contagious in my family.    

2)   It will give you interests besides homeschooling.  I think that is always healthy for homeschool moms to continually self-educate, have hobbies, read, and expose themselves to new ideas/concepts.    Homeschooling can become all consuming if we let it.  

3)  Your child *might* gain a lot from exposure...or start asking questions....or feel inspired and want to know more about a particular idea.    They might hear something mentioned, and you can do a quick google search and read more about it, etc.   And if you allow them exposure this way (as opposed to assigning the exposure), the child will feel more positive associations with the idea or concept.  (It was *their* idea to ask about this topic, or check a book out about it at the library, or whatever.)   And these positive associations are really the goal this first go-around.     You want them to get to 8th grade and say, "Chemistry?   I LOVE chemistry.   I remember the first time we studied this and it was awesome!"  

 

FWIW...

My fairly bright, precocious, science-loving child really just started really getting something out of the great courses this year.   (He is going into 5th grade.)   And even now, it is more exposure.   I don't assign the GC, I just try to remember to turn them on when I am in the car for myself.    I bet he would have listened in when he was in 3rd grade too....but that is just his personality.   His sister, on the other hand, tends to tune them out.   :)

 

 

Some other video/lecture/website ideas for this age:

 

We also went through the periodic table (using the basher book and the really pretty elements book) and watched this youtube video series.   They were fun and engaging to even younger kids.   Those were books my child would often carry off to his room to read in his free time.  (And he is dyslexic...so that is saying something!)

 

We also played around with the PhET chemistry simulations:  https://phet.colorado.edu/en/simulations/category/chemistry/general

 

We also memorized the periodic table using videos from this site:  https://www.memorize.academy/   It was fun and painless.

 

My kids also enjoyed the crash course chemistry videos paired with reading from their Usborne Science Encyclopedia.  (And the QR linked videos /websites from that book.)    We also watched the associated brain pop videos for all of those chemistry concepts.    (The Usborne Encyclopedia is another book my kids will often carry off to their room to read.)  

 

We also watched a few engaging Ted Talks on chemistry concepts.   (See this site for some ideas: http://www.teachthought.com/uncategorized/50-awesome-chemistry-videos-for-blended-or-flipped-classrooms/)

 

We also added in some memory work and recitation from our readings to help review things I didn't want them to forget.  

 

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If **I** were you, I would put the audio versions of those lectures on in the car for yourself.    I wouldn't schedule them.   I would just make it a point to turn those on when you are driving or doing dishes or anything menial this school year....for yourself.    Tell the child that YOU are interested in these lectures because you are really interested in chemistry and excited to get to study it this year, but do not require them to listen or pay attention in the car.   And I don't mean be sneaky or manipulative about it, I really mean just listen to them yourself for the love of it.   If you hear a neat idea, talk about it over dinner.     If your child happens to listen in while you are in the car, great!   But don't force it.

 

This will accomplish several things:

1)  It will model a love for learning and curiosity for your children.  It will show them that learning doesn't stop when school is over, and we can always follow our interest to learn more.   When I am excited about a topic, it seems to be contagious in my family.    

2)   It will give you interests besides homeschooling.  I think that is always healthy for homeschool moms to continually self-educate, have hobbies, read, and expose themselves to new ideas/concepts.    Homeschooling can become all consuming if we let it.  

3)  Your child *might* gain a lot from exposure...or start asking questions....or feel inspired and want to know more about a particular idea.    They might hear something mentioned, and you can do a quick google search and read more about it, etc.   And if you allow them exposure this way (as opposed to assigning the exposure), the child will feel more positive associations with the idea or concept.  (It was *their* idea to ask about this topic, or check a book out about it at the library, or whatever.)   And these positive associations are really the goal this first go-around.     You want them to get to 8th grade and say, "Chemistry?   I LOVE chemistry.   I remember the first time we studied this and it was awesome!"  

 

FWIW...

My fairly bright, precocious, science-loving child really just started really getting something out of the great courses this year.   (He is going into 5th grade.)   And even now, it is more exposure.   I don't assign the GC, I just try to remember to turn them on when I am in the car for myself.    I bet he would have listened in when he was in 3rd grade too....but that is just his personality.   His sister, on the other hand, tends to tune them out.   :)

 

 

Some other video/lecture/website ideas for this age:

 

We also went through the periodic table (using the basher book and the really pretty elements book) and watched this youtube video series.   They were fun and engaging to even younger kids.   Those were books my child would often carry off to his room to read in his free time.  (And he is dyslexic...so that is saying something!)

 

We also played around with the PhET chemistry simulations:  https://phet.colorado.edu/en/simulations/category/chemistry/general

 

We also memorized the periodic table using videos from this site:  https://www.memorize.academy/   It was fun and painless.

 

My kids also enjoyed the crash course chemistry videos paired with reading from their Usborne Science Encyclopedia.  (And the QR linked videos /websites from that book.)    We also watched the associated brain pop videos for all of those chemistry concepts.    (The Usborne Encyclopedia is another book my kids will often carry off to their room to read.)  

 

We also watched a few engaging Ted Talks on chemistry concepts.   (See this site for some ideas: http://www.teachthought.com/uncategorized/50-awesome-chemistry-videos-for-blended-or-flipped-classrooms/)

 

We also added in some memory work and recitation from our readings to help review things I didn't want them to forget.  

 

Thanks for all this!

 

I have been listening to a history course this summer, in preparation for SOTW3 (history was never my strong suite) while DH has been listening to one on Greek philosophy. I don't drive much, and rarely anywhere that takes 30 minutes for an entire lecture, but I'll start a chemistry one as soon as I'm finished with history. I'll put it on during dinner prep in the kitchen!

 

I've preordered the 4th ed. of the Kingfisher Science Encyclopedia, and can't wait to give it to DS when it arrives in October. I'm looking into some chemistry board games, too. Thanks for the video/lecture/website ideas! 

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Where are these?

 

I can't remember the name of the videos or website they were on and the kids are in bed. Look in the actual schedule file itself and it'll be in there, probably as a hyperlinked element name or some-such.

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