MotherOfBoys Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 I can't decide whether to start latin next year just to mix it up or to do grammar. We have completed Climbing to Good English 1 and 2 but I don't feel like that was much grammar. It was phonics, respellings, capitals, periods, letter writing, etc. No Nouns, verbs... So on the curriculum board a mom said you should have English grammar going good before doing latin. Is this true? Lively Latin is 3rd grade, Prima Latina is 2nd grade, and Song School is 1st but seems too fun and wouldn't get done. I was thinking Rod and Staff 2 next year orally, WWE2 workbook, and/or Latin I can't pick a latin for an advanced 1st grader. Would you do latin or grammar or both in first? Which latin would you choose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotherOfBoys Posted April 19, 2014 Author Share Posted April 19, 2014 We have no homeschool group next year so I have time to fill. I thought latin would be fun for him, to be something different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKS Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I think that it works best to run English grammar ahead of Latin. We had a good year doing Grammar/Sentence Island alongside Lively Latin this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndOfOrdinary Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 We chose a grammar program that was very light in time. By using Easy Grammar (we started with 3rd grade regardless of my son's grade), there was only a time commitment of about 10 to 15 minutes a day. He could do more than that, and often did when he was being obsessive, but in general that was it. By only having a very short grammar lesson, then we had plenty of foreign language time. Many of the programs designed for elementary are pretty light in the grammar. You can get books which are mainly dealing with initial memorizing, or which provide ample vocabulary words that turn things almost into plug and chug models for translation. This will not work well when they get older, but for the age you are looking at it seems like it might work well. We used Easy Grammar every year and it has provided an excellent foundation for languages. Next September my son starts his fourth language. As long as the grammar can just be a bit ahead of the Latin, you will be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest docdad Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 We use Memoria Press and started with Prima Latina at 5 with our fraternal twins. MP teaches English grammar through Latin, and they have a separate grammar recitation book designed to correlate with the Latin progression. We're now on First Form (4th grade) at 6 1/2 and are quite pleased with the progress in both grammar and Latin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotherOfBoys Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 I just looked at Easy Grammar. I'm impressed with Easy Grammar. Easy Grammar seems doable with WWE. I've been impressed with mp. I haven't looked closely at their grammar though. Off to do that now. Thank you all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndOfOrdinary Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 If you can trust your kid not to peek, and you only have one child, all you need is the Teacher's guide for Easy Grammar. We just used a piece of black construction paper to cover the answers on the opposing page. He could do quite a bit himself since it was underlining, crossing out, circling, rather than lots of writing. He got used to self checking when he got a bit bigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotherOfBoys Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 Do you use Daily Grams with Easy Grammar, too? I'm thinking we will do Easy Grammar 3 with WWE2 and Prima Latina or Lively Latin with Song School Latin songs. I might delay starting latin till we have done a month or two of grammar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acurtis75 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 We have always done grammar and latin. We started with FLL 1 while doing Song School Latin. We did Daily Grams while doing Prima Latina and now we are doing Latin for Children A and FLL3. Song School Latin and Prima Latina don't cover much grammar. They are both vocabulary based (i.e. you learn a list of words for the week) and don't go beyond identifying what a noun and verb are on a very basic level. Latin for Children teaches Latin grammar and I've considered dropping English grammar for a while because it is covered well in our Latin studies. I've never actually stopped grammar but we probably would be fine if we did and then picked it up later. I am planning to start KISS grammar along with Latin for Children B in a few months when we are done with current books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotherOfBoys Posted April 22, 2014 Author Share Posted April 22, 2014 So do easy grammar next year with prima or ssl. Then the following year do daily grams and Latina Christiana or Latin for children. I can't figure out mp grammar yet. There are only two grammar books? Then you write for the rest of the years. Wow, that's against the norm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndOfOrdinary Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 We do not do Daily Grams. To me (and to my son) they seemed like a lot of busy work. There was no instruction, which meant they were basically worksheets much like Daily Oral Language when I was in school. It was not worth the time or the money. It also eliminated the ability for him to interact with the text independently. If he didn't know the answer to something, he had no way to find the answer. I try very much not to fit the role of "Keeper of the Knowledge." The Daily Grams seemed to support that form of authority structure. It doesn't work for our house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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