gamommy Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 I plan to use SOTW for the first time this year with my 1st and 5th grader. I'll just adjust the activities and related readings as necessary. My dilemma is what to do with my 7th grader... She completed Abeka's Old World History last year easily. We chose that course as she pulled from p/s and we wanted to finish out with similiar material. Before deciding on SOTW for the youngers I had purchased BJU's 7th grade materials for her. This is a the second part of a two year history cycle (ancients through dark ages one year and then middle ages to present the second). I'm considering two possible scenarios, but I'm a newbie and would be open to other suggestions also.:001_smile: 1)Having the 7th grader listen to SOTW 1 with the others as a read aloud only, but then having her work through BJU seperately. Pull her reading from WTM lists for year 2 and 3 suggestions for logic stage so they'd sort of relate more closely to her History material. 2) Toss the BJU (or rather re-sell it on Ebay) have her work through SOTW vol2 using Kingfisher as a reference and year 2 activities and materials. Pull her reading from WTM year two suggestions for logic stage. I'd like to get her in-sync on a four year sequence for years 9-12. So I need to get there somehow by combining or skipping a year. She's an advanced student and is quite self-motivated. A mostly student led approach would work better for both dd and I. Thoughts? If anyone has an applicable reading list they've used I'd also be appreciative! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelli in TN Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 I like option 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paula j Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Option 2 sounds good. I also wanted to mention that if you get the SOTW activity guide it includes book lists to go along with each chapter. Another option would be for you to use sonlight core 6. This would have her going through both SOTW 1 and SOTW 2 and would include all the other books she would need for literature.;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaNY Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Option 2. This way, your dc will be more "in sync" w/one another in terms of what you will be covering in history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepy Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Agreeing with the others... I'd pick option 2. :001_smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhondabee Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Another option would be for you to use sonlight core 6. This would have her going through both SOTW 1 and SOTW 2 and would include all the other books she would need for literature.;) Especially if she wants to work more independently. The schedule and discussions would be pre-planned for you, which will probably be a big help as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamommy Posted June 23, 2008 Author Share Posted June 23, 2008 Okay, seems mostly unanimous that most would go with option 2. Now may I complicate things a bit further?!? I'd like her to get through 2-4 in the next two school years as I'd like her to finished a cycle completely before starting 9th grade. Will it be possible for her to get through 3 vols. in two years? The sonlight suggestion sounds intriguing, but she's just finished a through study of ancients last year, so I'm really not wanting to repeat all that. Am I missing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mcconnellboys Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 I think either plan sounds okay. I tend to like living books more than texts, so I'd personally have a preference for number two, but whatever works best for you would be fine, I'm sure. Here are the books I used with my older son for that level of study, last time around. They're not geared to SOTW because it wasn't out yet, but they are geared toward the Kingfisher spreads: “Spinesâ€: Kingfisher; Barnes and Noble World History; McGraw Hill US; McGraw Hill World; Atlas of the Classical World and Atlas of the Medieval World (John Haywood); History of US; Greenleaf Famous Men of the Middle Ages and Famous Men of the Renaissance/Reformation; Eyewitness Medieval Life; 100 Greatest Archaeological Discoveries. These are roughly in order by the Kingfisher spreads; historical fiction for reading time is mixed in with non-fictional accounts for history. Boy’s King Arthur or King Arthur and his Knights of the Round Table, both by Sidney Lanier (also try to read versions by Sutcliff, White and Stewart) – we liked the Illustrated Junior Library version for its nice illustrations. This is published by Grosset and Dunlap. Usborne: Tales of King Arthur Tales of King Arthur: Lancelot, Hudson Talbott (beautifully illlustrated and with a nobler ending to this sad story than most versions)-simpler Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, Tolkien Anna of Byzantium, Tracy Barrett A Medieval Cathedral, Fiona Macdonald Art: A History of Britain through Art, Jillian Powell The Lantern Bearers, Sutcliff Brother Cadfael series videos – fictional, detective type shows (re: St. Stephen) Saint Francis of Assisi, Margaret and Matthew Bunson Saint Francis of Assisi Nina Bawden Augustine Came to Kent Foxes’ Book of Martyrs China’s Cosmopolitan Age: The Tang, video History’s Villains: Attila the Hun, Scott Ingram (contrast with Arthurian legends) Music: Gregorian Chants; Eyewitness Music The Arabian Nights – we also used the Illustrated Junior Library version of this one, with illustrations by Earle Goodenow (Grosset and Dunlap, publishers) Ivanhoe (re: persecution of the Jews) – simpler version in great illustrated classics series adapted by Malvina G. Vogel, also series on tape [PBS?](but adult nature to theme in video set, although this zoomed right over my son’s head) The Apaches and Pueblo Peoples of the Southwest, Alys Swan Jackson The Knights of the Golden Table (re: Vladimir, Grand Duke of Kiev), E.M. Almedingen (who also has out several children’s books on ancient Russia) The World in the Time of Charlemagne Charlemagne and the Early Middle Ages, Miriam Greenblatt The Beduin’s Gazelle, Frances Temple African Kingdoms of the Past: Ghana, Mali, Songhay, The Western Sudan, Kenny Mann The Royal Kingdoms of Ghana, Mali and Songhay: Life in Africa, Pat McKissack African Kingdoms – Kids’ Discover Magazine Ghana: Enchantment of the World, Ettagale Blauer and Jason Laure’ A New True Book: Ghana, Karen Jacobsen The Samurai’s Tale, Erik Christian Hanguard Inside Story: A Samurai Castle, Fiona Macdonald Classical Japan 6-12th Century, video Stories of the Steppes: Kazakh Folktales, Mary Lou Masey The Central Asian States: Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan, Paul Thomas The White Stag, Kate Seredy Beowulf (I really don’t like the Rabseman version we found; couldn’t find Nye; easier versions: By His Own Might: The Battles of Beowulf, Dorothy Hosford; Beowulf, Sutcliff; Beowulf the Warrior, Ian Serraillier) BBC Factfinder: Anglo-Saxons The Shining Company, Sutcliff Life and Times: Alfred the Great and the Saxons, Robin May The King’s Shadow Song of Roland, Merriam Sherwood (gory!) Defenders of France – Calliope Macauley Cathedral video Eyewitness Aztec, Inca, Maya The Aztec News, Philip Steele The Adventures of Robin Hood, Roger L. Green The Story of Rolf and the Viking Bow Fafnir, Bernard Evslin (any given Evslin book may contain adult themes, art, and/or “bad wordsâ€) The Civilization Library: Vikings, Jill Hughes Usborne: The Viking World Inside Story: A Viking Town BBC Factfinder: Vikings Living History: Vikings Viking News Myths and Civilization of the Vikings, Hazel M. Martel Tales of the Norse Gods Sword Song, R. Sutcliff Myths of the Norsemen, Roger Lancelyn Green A Day with a Noblewoman, Regine’ Pernoud Eyewitness Medieval Castle Famous Generals and Admirals for Young People, Raymond Peyton Coffman and Nathan Goodman (re: William the Conquerer) William the Conquerer, Costain Art: The Bayeux Tapestry: The Story of the Norman Conquest, Norman Denny The Striped Ships, McGraw Dante’s Inferno, Pinsky (just the recommended Canto) The Song Dynasty AD 960-1276 – Cobblestone Otto of the Silver Hand Innocent Wayfaring Jackaroo Eyewitness Knight The Book of the Lion (would be better for older children) Eyewitness Arms and Armor Living History: Knights in Armor Time Traveller: Knights and Castles Macauley Castle video The Making of a Knight A Proud Taste for Scarlet and Minever (re: Eleanor) Ten Queens: Portraits of Women of Power, Milton Meltzer (re: Eleanor of Acquitane) – does mention adultery; other stories in the book mention rape, etc. Heroes of History, Winston Churchill (re: Henry II and Thomas Becket) The Celts The Middle Ages, Caselli Drabne of Dole, Barnard Evslin (see above warning) The Explorers, Neil Grant Images Across the Ages: Italian Portraits, Hoobler The Doges of Venice – Cobblestone Lion of St. Mark Venice and Its Merchant Empire, Kathryn Hinds (good) Venice, Birth of a City, Piero Ventura The Black Arrow: A Tale of the Two Roses Writing on the Hearth Images across the Ages: African Portraits, Hoobler The Empire of Mali, Carol Thompson West African Kingdoms, Julie Nelson Daily Life in Ancient and Modern Timbuktu, Larry Brook Ethiopia: Land of the Conquering Lion of Judah, I.G. Edmonds Great Zimbabwe: Cities of the Past – Cobblestone Benin: An African Kingdom and Culture, Kit Elliott The Kingdom of Benin, Dominique Malaquais Adventures of Marco Polo The World in the Time of Marco Polo Genghis Khan: Mongol Emperor, Humphrey Cultures of the Past: The Incas, Hinds The Aztecs, Wood Prince Henry the Navigator and the Highways of the Sea, Thomas Chubb Joan of Arc, Morpugo Prince Henry the Navigator book, William Jay Jacobs Around the World in a Hundred Years The Hundred Years’ War, William W. Lale Fourteenth Century Towns Authors of books about the Black Death: Timothy Levi Biel Don Nardo Cobblestone Phillis Corine Daniel Cohen James Day The Emperor’s Winding Sheet, Jill Paton Walsh The World of the Ottoman Ruler: Suleyman the Magnificent – Cobblestone Wonders Sacred and Mysterious, Reader’s Digest video re: Hagia Sophia The Ancient Khmers – Cobblestone Inca Life, David Drew Ferdinand and 15th Century Spain, Kenny Mann Ferdinand and Isabella, Paul Stevens Boticelli, Sarah Halliwell Eyewitness Renaissance The Renaissance, Alison Cole Art: Leonardo Da Vinci, Hahn Living History: Italian Renaissance Macauley Ship video Westward with Columbus: First Voyage to America, from the log of the Santa Maria Kidnapped King’s Cavalier Amerigo Vespucci, Ann Fitzpatrick Exploration and Discovery Explore: Uncharted Waters Magellan, Michael Burgan, et al Barbary Pirates Tales from Shakespeare, Lamb (simpler) Shakespeare’s Theatre Macbeth, Oxford student ed. Shakespeare Treasure Chest Mary, Queen of Scots Mary, Bloody Mary Bios. On Henry VIII Behind the Mask Bard of Avon Beautiful Stories from Shakespeare The Hawk that dare not Hunt by Day Long Meg World of Lady Jane Grey Queen’s Own Fool (re: Mary) Macbeth for Kids Music: Palestrina: CD’s Poetry: John Donne; Rene’ Descartes, Norton’s Anthology Philip Sidney, ed. William Ringler, Jr. Nostradamus: Prophet of Doom, video Walter Raleigh, Susan Korman, et al John Knox, W. Stanford The Reformation, Sarah Flowers John Calvin, Sally Stepanek Martin Luther, Judith O’Neill (and other authors) Perilous Gard In the Land of the Taj Mahal: The World of the Fabulous Mughals, Ed Rothfarb Sacred River, Ted Lewin The Golden Deer, Margaret Hodges Don Quixote Shakespeare Stories I and II, Garfield (simpler) Titles from library re: the Spanish Armada Queen Elizabeth and the Spanish Armada Life and Times of Louis XIV Ivan the Terrible, Thomas Butson Prologue to the Canterbury Tales, Coghill Canterbury Tales, MacCaughrean (simpler, but still some bawdiness) Geoffery Chaucer of England, Marchette Gaylord Chute Rembrandt and 17th Century Holland, Claudio Pescio The Sea Beggar’s Son, F.N. Monio (re: wars of independence) Inuit Mythology Plains Indians Shakespeare videos: Henry V; Midsummer’s Night’s Dream; Bruce Coville, for juveniles Stories from Shakespeare, Chutz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamommy Posted June 24, 2008 Author Share Posted June 24, 2008 I appreciate the responses and especially the reading list! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzie in Ma Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Go for it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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