Thank you Cynthia! That's what I automatically thought when my son started homeschooling for the first time, as a 9th grader but with taking several college courses. Recently I have noticed some complication in this dual issue in some colleges including UPENN. For example, UPENN web gave me an impression that you can not apply as a freshman even if you are a high schooler, if you have (certain number of) college credits already. I'm confused indeed.

Thank you for sharing your experience! Personally I'm a little bit confused Dual College credits matter. My son's college course taking came perhaps too early, needing to take Calculus as a 9th grader. That's how he started homeschooling with taking college courses. I was clueless in homeschooling as I was new to it. As a sophomore, he has already many college credits by now. With college credits, do kids choose to be a freshman or transfering?

Thank you, Jenn !

Thank you very much, Sue and Janet !!!

Thank you very much, Brigid. I PMed you for this matter, could you check?

Hi Brigid, You mentioned about getting scholarships without "sophomore status" concern. So I am guessing you meant that your son had around 30 plus college credits. Do you mean you still did not have to concern perhaps even if your son had double amount of that credits, say 60? Or do you know anyone's concern because of that level amount of college credits but wanting to be a freshman with scholarship opportunity? Thanks.

Originally Posted by Janet in WA : Keep in mind, though, that the benefits of dual enrollment credits (including, but not limited to, financial benefits) might outweigh the benefits of the scholarship money he might be forfeiting. Janet, what do you mean by that exactly?

That was my question too. I was clueless basically, but I am getting some info here. I believe it means that there are many colleges out there to accept your kids (not as a freshman, but) as a transfer student only when they have already many college credits (even through dual while in high school). By being a transfer student, I am hearing often that you sometimes do not get good scholarships/grants/aid. I'm interested to hear from BTBD parents.

If your ds has done up to Algebra 2, ...... Take a placement test in CC. With achieving solid passing score, you will know what math course he should take in CC. In general, with Algebra 2 under your belt, you either can take College Algebra or Pre-Calculus, depend on how fast-pace track fit you. Pre-Calculus is College Algebra plus Trig. So if you choose Pre-Cal, you are going to learn both College Algebra and Trig in one semester. If that's too fast-pace for you, you can do College Algebra for one semester, and then spend another semester for Trig alone. So I would say it's your choice.

Yes, I will join, too. From Piano&ViolinMom, formerly homeschoolwhy?

OP is looking for piano pieces for at the level of intermediate to early advanced. Debussy Toccata from Pour le Piano will be too hard for kids at that level.

Wow, I am learning all this new stuff too, as I am fairly new to homeschool. I guess, 'PE' is an issue along with other subjects in real school setting as required, rather in homeschool.

Dear mom2three : For your son's benefit, what about your son put a little bit more effort to complete his Algebra 2 sooner than usual? SAT math do include Algebra 2. To obtain his best possible SAT score, he does need to know Algebra 2. Hope you to find a way to master Algebra 2 sooner. If he puts twice time into it (like block schedule), he could do in in a half year. I do not know if it's workable for him or not, when he has pretty intense tennis playing.

My son is a as good tennis player as anyone in our town. But I do not mean he spends many hours like your son. Oh, no. If he would be in the team, He would have some conflict with other schedules. So he chose not to be in the team althought he could be a big help to the team. Still he often plays tennis to keep up. Yes, he has many credits as a 9th last year. As an example, he went through 3 maths( Calculus 1, 2 and 3). Similarly, he did multiple courses in each sbuject, including several in music.

Agree with Kareni.

Hmmm...Interesting discussion ! To me, it's depend on when your ds3 will start. If he starts right now, violin would work better because of his young age, needing smaller size instrument. It also depends on how quickly kids would progress in learning. One can face problem with piano if the one is too young but progress too quick. You can not find a smaller sized piano. But you can find right size violin anytime no matter how advanced your youngstar is.

I believe you can, for 4 years if you want. My son is a tennis player too. I counted his tennis for his 9th grade PE credit last year. My case, I may not give him more credit for his tennis in the future, as he has already unusually too many credits in other subjects.

Although books are pretty expensive, free tuition itself would be a BIG help to dual enrolled high school students. Nice to know your son received full free tuition support from the state for his full-time dual enrollment. Such state support is just 'dream' to me. We have no support from state nor from the district. My son has advanced too quick in everything and we just can not find any option what to do when he has still 3 more years in high school. As a high schooler, every single course in college would cost us $1,000 to $1,500.

Did your state support your son's (full time) dual enrollment financially, like full tuition payment?

Sailmom, I am glad to know that your dd has very good support from the state, with full tuition scholarship for dual credits. Go for it ! Our state do not offer any support. My son completed entire Calculus 1, 2 and 3 along with score 5 in AP Calculus by his 9th grade. But without any support from the state, we can not think about spending $1,000 to $1,500 just for a course. We also do not want send 14 year old son away for a college now. He has excelled in most, and we do not know what to do.

Again, I assume your 44 credits is based on getting 1 credit for a semester class. So it's just equivalent to 22 credits in schools where you get only 1/2 credit for a semester class. That's pretty standard case.

I'm sorry. When I said "That's not accurate", I meant was on quote as below. There is NO diploma from the PA state to homeschoolers. Thus, there can not be any requirements for the diploma.

That is not accurate.

Your 42 credits is equivalent to 21 credits in schools who give 1/2 credit for a semester class and 1 full credit for a full year class. So your 42 credits is not the one issue here we are talking whether it's possible to obtain. To make any sense whether getting 42 credits in high school is possible, it has to be whether you can get 84 credits in your school system where 1 credit is assigned for a semester class.

Sailmom, what would CLEP scores do for your dd? What about taking AP tests later instead?