For us, this type of attitude ended when we eliminated all video games. We only had an old game system briefly, but the change in attitude and general argumentativeness went through the roof when we had it. Once it was gone, the attitude problems disappeared.

I'd rather have a root canal

Hugs. Low carb makes me very ill, but not vomiting. I get dizzy, have heart palpitations and shakiness, but no stomach issues.

Perfect. Yes, it is the drama. All of your advice is spot on. Thank you. I have made a Khan Academy account and can do that on my tablet while I fold laundry. :) I am looking into the other video series that was posted as well

Our max time for math is 1 hour 15 minutes. Thank you to all the ladies that posted kind, constructive and practical information. I really appreciate it.

I don't wash sheets daily, just weekly. My kids help out plenty. I am satisfied with my level of cleanliness and laundry and have no plans to change nor plans to put my children in school. It is my opinion that the dead skin cells that are in clothes, plus sweat (we live in a very hot climate) make even PJs dirty over night. Add eating breakfast in them, and you have dirty clothes! We are anti-public school and private school would be over $40K for all the kids. But, that is beside the point of a math thread.

Good info for me, thank you!

Yes, we do math all summer long. Usually just 3 days a week, but we don't take a full summer break. This summer we will be reading history too.

I have never heard of this, thanks so much for bringing it to my attention!

I have wondered about dyscalculia for me. I do not think this is the case for my kids. I had really very poor math teaching in K-12. I took a lot of remedial classes in college hoping to shore up my deficits, and I made A's, but needed a tutor for College Algebra and Trigonometry. Mathematical Statistics was very easy for me, I have no idea why though. I went on to graduate Sum Cum Laude and obtain a health field related Master's degree, so I am not stupid, but Algebra still gives me fits.

I ordered the last 3 units for 2nd grade for my 2nd grader. It looks like it would cover about 2/3 review and 1/3 new for her. I got the answer keys, but not the TM. If she likes it, I'll order a complete set for 3rd. I am going to take a look at it for my 5th grader as well. She is still in MM 5A. I am not sure I would want to switch her mid stream though.

Yep! Tons of clothes (we don't wear things twice either). Dog blankets, rugs, people bedding (5 beds), towels, dishrags ....it adds up quickly.

But history and science are the only things that are fun and that my kids love. Seriously. They would revolt if I told them no history.

Okay, seriously, how do you have time to do this? I have 4 kiddos as well. We do school from 9:00-2:00 ish everyday, taking about 45 minutes for lunch. 2:30-5:00 ish most days is music lessons, field trips, church. Dinner prep, then dinner, then clean up, then bath, bed by 9:00 for all 4. I then fold clothes from the 4-5 loads of laundry I did that day, unload-reload the dishwasher, do a small amount of work from my paying job, then fall into bed around 11:00 or 11:30. How do you make time to play math games and teach yourself math at night?

I just ordered 3 CLE units to try, thanks.

So-- if you have to teach math in the 'Let's me and you learn math', or even in a lecture style-- how in the world do you do that with 4 (or more) kids. That would take up my entire homeschooling day. When would we get to history, grammar, writing, phonics, spelling etc? Serious question--not being snarky.

Rest of homeschool is just fine. Some typical grumbling here and there, but no fits. I am a pretty tough parent and don't allow much nonsense, so the math fits are unusual for my kids.

I am a non-mathy mom with at least 3 non-mathy kids. The kids are better than me, due to a much better foundation, but they do not like math at all. The whining, crying, sobbing, rolling on the floor is just about to do me in. I don't know what else to try. I've tried multiple math currics, but maybe do something else? Right now the 5th grader is almost done with Math Mammoth 5A. We are about 3 months behind schedule. The 2nd grader just finished Math U See Beta. We typically move on the Math Mammoth for 3rd-6th, but after 2 days, she is literally throwing the biggest fit I've ever seen. In the past we've also given Horizons and Teaching Textbooks a try. I am just at a loss. I want to reduce the tears and make sure my kids really learn math. Is this ever possible? ETA-- tutoring or math classes here are super expensive. Tutoring is $40-$60 per hour, math classes for pre-alg and up are $500 per semester. Really out of our price range.

Thanks for this! I had a request to update. The kids seem to be happy and are making progress. They are getting extra tutoring several days a week after school.

Thanks so much!

Zappos has done that for me before.

Ah! I just saw the cover of the book. Lightning as is ZAP, not Lightening as in lighten your load in teaching literature. Ha! More attention to detail needed on my part.

:) Okay. You could probably craft something, I am sure, it just would take many hours.

Nope.

Good ideas! Thanks!