I don't understand how this gorgeous wedding dress: http://phyliciadelta.com/that-day-i-wore-white-our-wedding/ is less sexy than sloppy 'new mom who can't be bothered to change' yoga pants? Who makes these invisible "modesty" rules because they sure aren't consistent?

Yes, she was weepy in that one too lol. She always starts off as a strong bada$$ and then ends up crying her way through the second half. The fight scene was the stand-out to me though because she got back in touch with her inner tough-guy. If only she'd reacted to the MIL like he did when he was being her (counting the money and asking if that was all and if she was doing payments) rather than dissolving into tears, I would've liked her character through the whole show.

I like Ha Ji Won but she got a bit too weepy for me in SG. Her fight scene in King 2 Hearts where she saves the King is pretty great though.

I also like the comments on Viki. They are often hilarious and things that I'm thinking but wouldn't say aloud. KDrama is good for certain dramas because there are a few where they are quicker at posting the subs than Viki. I know they post My Secret Hotel with subs usually before Viki has them done. I use Dramafever and Viki most because I have the apps on my phone and don't have to be on the computer to watch them. Or on Marriage Not Dating. She poo'ed her pants! I was so grossed out at the idea at first but honestly, it was so well done that it made it a bit less gross.

Dramafever, Viki, or Kdrama.com

I'm really liking My Secret Hotel and Surplus Princess right now. I have been watching Discovery of Romance but the main character's lying really gets to me (also, I like her current bf more than the guy who seems like he may be the true lead).

Or the Black man killed in Wal-Mart for holding a toy gun: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/27/john-crawford-killed-walm_n_5721676.html Or the Black man beaten by police in FERGUSON, only to be charged for bleeding on their uniforms: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/15/the-day-ferguson-cops-were-caught-in-a-bloody-lie.html Always nice to see people insisting their is no racial component so something people from those races are telling you happens to them all the time and IS race-based and even nicer to see people insisting on doing mental gymnastics to find a justification to institutional racism all from beneath their lovely umbrella of white privilege. Only someone who has never experienced it could possibly defend that viewpoint with a straight face (and even then, as you see from this thread, many would not defend the viewpoint).

Yes, I've met a few Pagans who covered too. I actually knew one pretty well, she was a Hellenistic Reconstructionist. MUCH later, she and her husband ended up converting to Islam together.

Breastfeeding their satan spawn till age 8.

Winter is Deletions are coming.

Sorry, I forgot. Your oldest is, what 7? 8? I stand, corrected, you clearly already have all the answers on how to raise children well and to come out polite, well-behaved, and of course, not to be freaks who cling to their parents or crawl into bed with mommy and daddy. It isn't like they have another 10+ years till adulthood or anything.

1) Your post referenced family beds with older kids (common in most non-western cultures btw) and nursing past THREE. 2) The word troll DOES get thrown around a lot here...when you're posting on the thread. Maybe consider why that is.

Ends justify the means, then? Even if they've got to beat them into line, as long as they're well behaved and don't annoy you, it was all worth it. I have a new suggestion though, as someone who has often worried about inconveniencing others with my children's behavior. How about instead of beating my kids into submission so that someone like you finds them polite, patient, and respectful, I just grab some plumbing wire and have a go at the judgmental, know-it-all mom who finds my spirited (though IMO they're still pretty polite), non-abused children a problem and would prefer a rougher approach as long as it yields 'little angels'. I really, really, hope you're a troll and just writing as some sort of satire on extremism. So, nursing beyond age 3 and family beds with older children are comparable in your eyes to these abusive situations your set on defending? And after bending over backwards to defend said abusive behaviors, you then top it off with a judgmental sentence on extended breastfeeding and extended co-sleeping (neither of which is shown to be remotely harmful in the long run and which is not anything like abuse unless you're a pervert)? Something grosses me out here, but it is not ebf or ecs. I <3 you.

You said it, not me. :) Any parent who ABUSES their kids is, in fact, an ABUSER. Hitting your infant with anything and hitting a child with objects = abuse. But I guess as long as they're being 'loved' and 'cared for'. I mean, it isn't real abuse like when you see the "welfare mamas with kids from a bunch of different fathers" yelling at their kids to come along so they can buy soda and sweets with their food stamps, am I right *wink wink*? <please note sarcasm>. Personally, I would argue that causing physical harm, excess or no, to your baby/infant is going too far. Interesting. I'm an adult but if my husband decided to use a wooden spoon, spatula, or plumbing wire to 'discipline' me, he'd get a beat down and likely some pepper spray in the eyes for good measure. Most (sane) people would consider such a method of a man 'disciplining' his wife to be abhorrent, abusive, and indefensible. Yet, when a grown adult does it to a 1 year old, who has no means to defend themselves or even coherently voice their pain or objection, we're all good! And you still get to keep your title of 'good and loving parent'. That seems like a pretty sweet deal!

Yes, PinkInTheBlue, I was being sarcastic ;). My husband and I aren't Christian, we are Muslim.

I gave you a less extreme example in the case of an emotionally and physically abusive husband and a victimized wife. According to your logic, they could make it work and have a successful marriage if they just love Jesus enough.

Coincidence, LOL.

You could make a point that very different people could heal and improve their marriage. However, your choice of example was what was baffling because whether or not "Hitler" and "Mother Theresa" worked to save their marriage, it wouldn't change the fact that Hitler was a delusional genocidal sociopath which in and of itself would be a barrier to having a successful marriage. I don't know about you but no matter how much my husband and I bent over backwards to preserve our marriage, if I found out he was chopping up people in the basement for funsies, well, "thems the brakes". As for a less extreme example, I think that telling women that it doesn't matter who their spouse is, they can fix their marriage just through "putting Jesus first" is pretty dangerous. It is exactly that mindset that convinces women to stay with incompatible, unfaithful partners or much worse, with abusive spouses because they think that if they just work on it enough he will quit beating them black and blue. ETA: Btw, I actually HAD an "arranged" marriage and I still think this is crazypants.

Come on, are you trolling us or what? We're just being punk'd right?

I agree, Miss Korea was on my drama recommendations list upthread and the female characters are really well-written. That drama actually managed to avoid pretty much all of the worst offenders of K-Drama cliches.

Personally, I can't stand the K-Dramas with weak, constantly sobbing female leads. I like at least a little spark to her. Another rec is History of a Salaryman which has a female lead who is basically the opposite of the typical female lead.

Ah, you've stumbled across my secret way to relax alone when the kids are in bed and I'm destressing from a long day as a SAHM and college student ;) My recommendations: My Girlfriend is a Gumiho Master's Sun Best Love/ Greatest Love Cunning Single Lady/ Sly and Single Again My Girl Marriage Not Dating/ Marriage Without Love Fated to Love you (Korean version, currently running. The TW version was a trainwreck IMO) Arang and the Magistrate Miss Korea My Love From Another Star Sungkyunwan Scandal (I'm sure I misspelled that ;) ) Bride of the Century City Hunter Queen In Hyun's Man Protect the Boss Scent of a Woman Nice Guy Ice Adonis (So long but finally a drama where the second lead actually gets some pay back for her insane actions. The main heroine here is currently the crazy second lead in a show called Jang Bo Ri is Here and must've learned well on how to come off as so horrid people are rooting for the show to end with your character's demise) Answer Me 1997 Delightful Girl Choon Hyang Prosecutor Princess City Hall Queen of Reversals (she actually completely breaks the drama rules with the ending) Surplus Princess/ The Mermaid just started but looks promising.

I managed to snag the cards too (though a bit before I needed them as I was afraid they would not be sold again) but missed the timeline so I'm hoping this gets back in print by the time we finally get around to prehistory. Thanks for the signs and shares!

I wanted to pop back in and share this. The creator of Charlie's Playhouse materials is trying to show publishers that there is an interest. If you are interested, please sign the petition she's set up to show them. She met with National Geographic last month and the thought is that if she gets enough signatures, they may agree to publish her materials. So, for those of you who are teaching evolution to kids, this might be a really good thing to support. http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/i-want-to-buy-a-giant-evolution-timeline

A couple books that I enjoyed but that had points that completely shocked/surprised/horrified me for days after: The Tiger's Wife by Tea Obreht - great book and the shocking/horrifying part was in line with the tone of the book but it still surprised me that the author went there. The Weight of Heaven by Thrity Umrigar - the ending was a disturbing WTH just happened moment. I did NOT expect it and was bothered for days because I totally thought it was going to be an uplifting ending, Lady's Hands Lion's Heart by Carol Leonard - a memoir but again, something really shocking and horrible happened to the writer/main character after a beautiful start and I was just totally shocked and hadn't expected that at all. Half of a Yellow Sun by Chimamanda Adichie - definitely moved me.